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Forums > Sailing General

Securing main sail clew to boom

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Created by keensailor > 9 months ago, 20 Aug 2013
keensailor
NSW, 701 posts
20 Aug 2013 9:42AM
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hi
went out sailing on sunday, think I may have tensioned the boom vang too much because the large metal sail slug attached to the clew of the main pulled out of the boom track (see photo). It also tore open the end of the boom bag and broke the zip. I intend to put the sail slug back into the track but also wanted to find a way to secure something through the eyelet on the clew and around the boom so it is not just relying on the sail slug. Any ideas, thanks in advance.



LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
20 Aug 2013 10:19AM
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I suspect that the vang had nothing to do with the failure, the vang will never put that much downward pressure on the boom that far away from the mast. The slug and the boom were probably ready to part company anyway and it's one of those situations where you don't minutely inspect everything every time you go sailing and as such the failure was just waiting for an opportunity to manifest itself. Think of it as one of those "The straw that broke the camels back" kind of situations.

Possibly a better way of controlling the clew is with a wide webbing loop around the boom and that way all the pressure is taken by the entire boom and not just the lips of the track.

Rattlehead
QLD, 555 posts
20 Aug 2013 2:38PM
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Dyneema soft shackle ...you can buy them made up or easily as make your own.
Make one long enough to go right round the boom.

mike_e
NSW, 71 posts
20 Aug 2013 9:28PM
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We use a Velcro webbing strap that wraps around the boom & thru the clew ring - no need for the slug. Gemmell sails on vic road Drummoyne have them on the shelf ready to go. However looks like your boom bag may get in the way a bit ?

Toph
WA, 1849 posts
23 Aug 2013 10:57AM
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What's the purpose of the 'leash' I think he called it in that video

Rattlehead
QLD, 555 posts
24 Aug 2013 8:42AM
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Toph said..

What's the purpose of the 'leash' I think he called it in that video


Don't really need the leash , just makes them easier to release /undo. These things are light as a feather and as strong as hell.

An example , a 9 mm softy has a safe working load of 18000 lbs and a breaking load of 26000 lbs , and probably 10 times lighter than the stainless equivalent .

We use them for jib sheets , halyards , and attaching blocks to pad eyes on the deck ect , just about anything you would use a shackle , piston clip or halyard shackle for you can use these things.

www.google.com.au/search?q=soft+shackle&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=99sXUpSNGa-XiQe2qoHIBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=672

Ramona
NSW, 7653 posts
24 Aug 2013 6:21PM
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I use a 6mm one for my headsail, brilliant bit of kit. Bought it off eBay, $20 odd dollars including postage.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
24 Aug 2013 7:20PM
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Graham. you must just about own ebay by now.

Toph
WA, 1849 posts
24 Aug 2013 10:07PM
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Rattlehead said..

Toph said..

What's the purpose of the 'leash' I think he called it in that video


Don't really need the leash , just makes them easier to release /undo. These things are light as a feather and as strong as hell.

An example , a 9 mm softy has a safe working load of 18000 lbs and a breaking load of 26000 lbs , and probably 10 times lighter than the stainless equivalent .

We use them for jib sheets , halyards , and attaching blocks to pad eyes on the deck ect , just about anything you would use a shackle , piston clip or halyard shackle for you can use these things.

www.google.com.au/search?q=soft+shackle&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=99sXUpSNGa-XiQe2qoHIBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=672


So the leash would be akin to the pin on a metal shackle. It didn't look to me to be locking it all together. Don't get me wrong I can see the benefit in this softy, but this tag bit left me bewildered...

Rattlehead
QLD, 555 posts
27 Aug 2013 9:44PM
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Correct the tighter it pulls the more it locks together ..like a slip knot ( if you watch the video you will see how the cores bind up),

benefits are you can have different lengths , they are soft so they won't damage your boat or people when say the jib clew is flogging around (if you have ever been on the receiving end of a big shackle going ape shyt on the clew of a flogging jib you will know what I mean), they will not corrode , very very light , easy to use you don't need a spanner or shackle key to do up or undo , . With some very simple tools and a bit of dyneema you can make these things , ( imagine if you were on a cruising yacht in the middle of nowhere and you needed some shackles ... As long as you packed some rope you laughing ).

They are just the benefits I can rattle off the top of my head .

Also
The leash pulls the inner core towards the loop end so you can undo the shackle.obviously you have to take the load off before you undo it , it's not like say a piston shackle you would have on a spinnaker brace ,you would need to fire under load.

saltiest1
NSW, 2510 posts
28 Aug 2013 11:22PM
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out haul or vang?

Rattlehead
QLD, 555 posts
29 Aug 2013 10:48AM
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saltiest1 said..

out haul or vang?




outhaul slug pulled out

saltiest1
NSW, 2510 posts
30 Aug 2013 9:09AM
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oh yeah.... i can see how a vang could do that.
could you put a bolt through the track maybe?

IanKJ
3 posts
2 Sep 2013 1:47AM
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I bought some sails a few years ago from Fareastsails and they offered both a round metal slug and
a 1 meter long velcro strap. I have used the slug without difficulty. The problem is that the sail is
loose foot and a Velcro strap does not slide easy as I set the sails draft. The slug slides in the track
and provides much better draft control. Fareast suggest the slug with loose footed sails, but they also
send me a strap in case I wanted to go that way.

My sail is full batten with 2 reefs. Sails are very good - Good source for sails.

Ian

keensailor
NSW, 701 posts
2 Sep 2013 7:45AM
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Yes, looks like I will be using a strap with Velcro. Maybe my slug was not big enough and just pulled through track.



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