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Toe Rails

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Created by keithw > 9 months ago, 7 Jan 2013
keithw
NSW, 190 posts
7 Jan 2013 9:24PM
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Would there be any reasons why a boat wouldn't have a toe rail fitted?
I have seen a few raceing yachts without toe rails and always thought it wasn't a good idea but I recently looked at a Nantucket 42 which had no toe rails as well and I was wondering if there could be a underlying problem ??

southace
SA, 4773 posts
7 Jan 2013 10:38PM
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I put new full length toe rails on my cruiser....was worth all the 2k and all the drilling and tapping into the deck! I would say with race boats it would save a little weight and also makes the deck flush for sitting on the "rail" some race boats have toe rail forward of midships.

Some boats don't have stanchions and safety rails! WTF?

keithw
NSW, 190 posts
8 Jan 2013 5:43PM
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Hi Matt,
Yes now I think of it I was crewing on a Farr 1104 and remember how uncomforable it was.
why did you need to replace your rails?

southace
SA, 4773 posts
8 Jan 2013 6:18PM
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I replaced the old jarrah rail with new anodised section can you see the difference?


keithw
NSW, 190 posts
8 Jan 2013 7:01PM
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Sure can - You have done a great job!!

Jedibrad
NSW, 527 posts
8 Jan 2013 10:29PM
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nice job

i need to 'build in' new hatches like you have done, any tips??

southace
SA, 4773 posts
8 Jan 2013 11:01PM
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Yes I cast 12mm or 24mm epoxy coated marine ply down first using a level and strait edge and then released the ply from the cast and then glued and screwed the ply to the flush cast area of the deck.

Then it's just a matter fitting the hatch with screws and sika.

I can't find a good picture of the process but I have added one you maybe able to see.

The most important thing is that you cast the hatch rather than screw it to the curvature of the deck as this will obviously cause the hatch to leak.



Poodle
WA, 866 posts
15 Jan 2013 9:13AM
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Hey Keith,

It's normal for racing yachts these days to NOT have tow rails to make it a bit comfier for the crew when hiking (the honourbale profession of rail meat!). Having just spent 4 1/2 days bashing from S2H for the first time, I'm very grateful our baby did not have them! You still need them in adventureland so your foredeckie has a small hope of staying on board.

But if you are not a serious raceer - Or just want to punish your crew then whack them in

Poods

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
17 Jan 2013 7:16PM
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Cat 1/2/3/4 regs are 25mm toe rails forward of the mast.

southace
SA, 4773 posts
17 Jan 2013 10:59PM
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Nice boat ! I hope to hell the lifelines are up to scratch as your feet won't be stopping you in a knockdown!

rumblefish
TAS, 824 posts
18 Jan 2013 8:21AM
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Just noticed in the above pics the lifelines are plastic coated.

Please get rid of them. There is a very good reason they are banned for any sort of racing and in my opinion should be banned full stop as they are dangerous!!

If ir is a pure cruising boat, look closely at using dyneema.

keithw
NSW, 190 posts
18 Jan 2013 12:48PM
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southace said...
Nice boat ! I hope to hell the lifelines are up to scratch as your feet won't be stopping you in a knockdown!


It's also hard to board as well, I'm trying to work out a price so I can put in an offer I'm thinking 2-2.5k to purchase the rails.

MorningBird
NSW, 2662 posts
18 Jan 2013 1:39PM
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G'day Keith,
Are you thinking of getting that Cole 43? They are a big boat and a massive handful, with a crew let alone without.

southace
SA, 4773 posts
18 Jan 2013 1:28PM
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I have been using the plastic coated lines on both my yachts for the past 20 years....... Never had a problem with them other than some wear on the plasitic where it passes through the Staunton post.

keithw
NSW, 190 posts
18 Jan 2013 4:21PM
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MorningBird said...
G'day Keith,
Are you thinking of getting that Cole 43? They are a big boat and a massive handful, with a crew let alone without.


Hi John,

No, But we had a look one weekend with a freind and I'm doing some home work for him.
Basically the boat needs a lot of work and is very over priced as the items listed in the inventory are either out of date, faulty or just not fitted ie holding tank advertised as fitted but there isn't one. Its setup is ok engine wouldn't start Then spat out oil blogs when it started up but then ran ok ( broker said the engine was serviced 2 day before we looked at it) stove, gas storage wells need replacing floor is very niosy ......

At the moment I don't have time for a boat, busy with my old work for a few months as it turns out!

cisco
QLD, 12325 posts
18 Jan 2013 9:48PM
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southace said...
I have been using the plastic coated lines on both my yachts for the past 20 years....... Never had a problem with them other than some wear on the plasitic where it passes through the Staunton post.


I don't really see a problem with plastic coated wire either.

The biggest problems with lifelines is when people use them as seats and use them as grabs to haul themselves out of a dinghy and onto the deck.[}:)]



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