Hi Guys and Girls , I have a plan and need some advice from the old salts
in 5 to 6 years i aim to purchase a cat or tri learn to sail and sail my way around Australia.I am looking at Trailable Tri,s due to the convenience and mobility they offer over cats.I like the idea of being able to beach a boat and sail in shallow water.What are some of the pro-s and Cons of Cats V Tri,s.
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Select to expand quoteDezman said..
My advice; don't wait that long!........
Why?I need to save first unless I just sell my house and buy a luxury yacht and live on that for the rest of my days.
Select to expand quoteteatrea said..Dezman said..
My advice; don't wait that long!........
...... sell my house and buy a luxury yacht and live on that for the rest of my days.
That sounds like a plan
Haha, that's what I did! Nine years and countless miles of ocean teatrea. But I think a better idea for a short trip less than a year is borrow a little against the house and buy a cheap cat or tri because you can have a lot of fun without commiting to much. But if its a lifestyle you want then let go and be free, take what ever happens and live for today.
A sea wind I cruised on for eight months all up over three years, sold it to a guy last year over the phone sight unseen! He worked hard for six more weeks then turned up with the balance , after paying me and some food and fuel he had $200 to his name. Then I gave him a sailing lesson for he never sailed before. Then left tin can bay for cairns and had a great trip before working again. He was 40 and I'm sure he will never look back and regret it.
I sent my last dollar on Valkyrie and sailed away up the coast, fishing and bumming along for many miles. The sea wind was an interlude for a taste of multihull sailing for short runs of three months, small space inside. Where if you are going to do it for several years then buy my luxury yacht for a small sum of money 'look in the classifieds'.
Great stories guys , sitting here on night shift looking at the river wishing I was sailing away on it!!
in 5 to 6 years i aim to purchase a cat or tri learn to sail and sail my way around Australia.I am looking at Trailable Tri,s due to the convenience and mobility they offer over cats.I like the idea of being able to beach a boat and sail in shallow water.What are some of the pro-s and Cons of Cats V Tri,s.
), I would hazard a guess that you are some kind of speed freak and so is your hot blonde girlfriend. Further, you are probably not planning on having offspring for a while either.
Some nice tri's there Cisco and would love to cruise any of them, I found after cruising my seawind24 that speed is not all that good! Yeah I know that sounds odd but 7 to 8 knots is very sweet and doing that in light conditions is a treat. Once when I was averaging 10 knots from 1770 to bundaberg with an off shore breeze I found it a little to intense! Even though the auto point did the job the whole way and I even went into the lee hull and made a cupper tea and hit 12.8 knots 'the record for the day'. I find kicking back in the chair dancing along to be more to enjoyable sailing.
I would pick a tri under 28 feet for the large cabin and being on a budget under 20,000 is better value.
So teatrea there are those who wish and those who do, just make it happen.
I started at 38 years old on a Roberts 25 from the Gold Coast, and now I'm 47 I can feel my age! No kidding you won't believe how much you will age in the next ten years. If you own enough in your house then rent it out or sell it if the numbers don't add up to stay afloat and work hard when your older and if you die before that then you win :))....
in 5 to 6 years i aim to purchase a cat or tri learn to sail and sail my way around Australia.I am looking at Trailable Tri,s due to the convenience and mobility they offer over cats.I like the idea of being able to beach a boat and sail in shallow water.What are some of the pro-s and Cons of Cats V Tri,s.), I would hazard a guess that you are some kind of speed freak and so is your hot blonde girlfriend. Further, you are probably not planning on having offspring for a while either.
Didn't know the whole story, I guess you will have to wait for the daughter to move on.
As for the wife nothing under 40ft and $500,000! Just kidding.
My views on Cat / Tri . Cat for comfort and the ability to appeal to women, Tri for speed , Mono for anything other than " Trade wind " passage making. But really that is a simplification ,
Select to expand quoteteatrea said..Dezman said..
My advice; don't wait that long!........
...... unless I just sell my house and buy a luxury yacht and live on that....
thats what i did.
By specifying a trailerable boat , you have virtually answered your own question . Trailerable cats (and some tri s are de mountable ) meaning you have to pull them apart,meaning pain in the ass..... a lot of tris go down the folding path to make them more user friendly for the road. You can pick up a real nice Farrier F31 for around 100 k ( there's one on boat point) . These things are comfortable fast and very seaworthy , towable....
Personally if I was thinking of what your are doing , that's what I'd be doing . The bigger bridge deck cats have a bit more room , but if your looking a for trailer boat these are nice . The one I used to sail on was for sale a couple of months ago for $85 k ( foam sandwich aft cabin model f31 built by Ostac) .
Must have got sold?
I don't get it. You want a trailer boat to sail around Australia. Does that mean that as you are sailing someone else is going to be towing a trailer around Australia in your footsteps so to speak.
The way I see it you are either going to sail it sometimes and you are going to tow it the rest of the time. Someone enlighten me please.
Select to expand quoteLooseChange said..
I don't get it. You want a trailer boat to sail around Australia. Does that mean that as you are sailing someone else is going to be towing a trailer around Australia in your footsteps so to speak.
The way I see it you are either going to sail it sometimes and you are going to tow it the rest of the time. Someone enlighten me please.
Well my idea is get the boat learn to sail it as I have next to no sailing experience apart from some sessions on a beach cat. So if it is trailable I can bring it out of the water , park it at home and take it sailing when I can until I feel I am ready to take it to sea. Also saving on mooring fees ect.
I don't think I will need massive cabin or deck space as more than likely I will be sailing solo mostly! So also need a yacht that can be sailed short handed(is that the term?)
A Farrier Trailer Tri (680, 720 or even a Tramp) sounds like the perfect yacht for you to start with. However single hand sailing is not recommended especially on a fast multi hull.
The reason being is at speed there is a lot going on and if you fall overboard the yacht will keep going at speed long enough to put an almost impossible distance between you and it for you to have any hope of getting back onboard.
Trailing a rescue line over the stern is not much use either as it is extremely difficult to hold onto a rope behind a boat even at 2 or 3 knots.
Trailer Tris have been selling for around the $15,000 mark but are becoming few and far between as they are fairly old now and people tend to hang onto the good ones because they know they are getting good bang for bucks.
The cheapest F Boats that come up on a search are the F 22s starting at $55,000.
My opinion would be to buy (wait for a bargain ) a sea wind 24 or international 23. Both can be moored and trailered. Both super fun.
I had my international 23 for 5yrs and made 2k profit.
Then when your ready buy something more substantial
I had a Farrier 720 TT it is a lovely fast boat, I raced it for 1 season and finished Club Champ, but the accommodation is very limited (probably all the tri that size are similar). Do not buy the 680 with the aft cabin as the cokpit is so small and the cabin a bit of a waiste of space.
It is very easy to load on trailer and unfolding and securing the out riggers is a breeze. Mine had a dagger board and I was able to beach it. It was lacking a bow spit but reaching with the asymmetrical deployed was (sometimes) scary fast. I loved it. It is fast and level sailing easy to keep your beer from tipping! She didn't point very high but made it by sheer speed. She hated light wind (below 5 Knt) as she would just roll and throw the boom across.
Now for the bad notes, I know some sailors would disagree with me but my main prob was that it was made of ply wood and not really solid, I had a couple of encounters with the jetty and the jetty won! A few holes in the outriggers! Ply and ribs construction is easy to fix but had enough of it. The boat is very light and not that easy to get to a cross wind jetty??????????????? I became better with practice (going to the jetty and fixing hulls) and lost a few crews over board as well!
I started to miss the feeling of a heeling single hull and sold her to get a Farr 740 sport, I love the challenge, not a very good accommodation but a very sharp single hull.
If it was my choice I would go for a tri anytime, at anchor the cats are a bit shaky I have been told. I will go back to tri sometime when money comes my way and will get a GRP hull.
^^^I can see why Farrier may be doing that. Possibly as his later designs have become high tech and he got burned a bit with Corsair in the U.S., he may want to be ensuring that none of his designs have failures due to amateurs not sticking exactly to the design.
