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Upgrading.

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Created by southace > 9 months ago, 16 Jan 2014
southace
SA, 4783 posts
17 Jan 2014 12:04AM
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After 5 years living and cruising on my lovely yacht the decision is made she's going on the market (hopefully a quick sale at a heavily reduced price) and then back into the market for a 42 to 50 footer.......yippee how exiting! Bring on the washing machine!





cisco
QLD, 12348 posts
16 Jan 2014 11:59PM
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southace said..

After 5 years living and cruising on my lovely yacht the decision is made she's going on the market (hopefully a quick sale at a heavily reduced price) and then back into the market for a 42 to 50 footer.......yippee how exiting! Bring on the washing machine!



As with real estate you should sell and buy in the same market. When you sell, do not wait for the market to go up before you buy.

Would a Bavaria Yacht be on your short list of yachts to consider??

southace
SA, 4783 posts
17 Jan 2014 1:04AM
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I checked them out tonight....I'm really leaning towards a hunter...I'm likening the beam and shallow draft along with the C/C general layout.

Only two 42 C/C on the market in Oz that I can find so far.

But of coarse my options will be open.....even a Beneteau could be possible the make a few C/C versions.

I won't be buying till I shift my current !

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
17 Jan 2014 10:33AM
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Being well kept and up to date, I don't think you will have much trouble selling.
Iv looked around after putting mine on the market and really there are only few good yachts around that are
Ready to go.

southace
SA, 4783 posts
17 Jan 2014 10:56AM
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Ramona said..

Kalik 44. http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/kalik-44/137331

I would have loved to buy the Kalik 33 that was for sale in Sydney a few years ago. Another one that got away.


Nice looking boat built in 1982 ! I'm looking for around a 2000 model give or take with white leather upholstery,swim platform and little work other than a cut and polish! Oh and maybe a washing machine! Haha

spongeblob
NSW, 218 posts
17 Jan 2014 3:30PM
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As a nipper did you have something traumatic happen with a 'washing machine' ? (if not would you like something 'to happen' ?)

Charriot
QLD, 880 posts
17 Jan 2014 3:42PM
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Southace, washing machine is a must. Funny thing is, that was the first thing
I bought for my Swanson. True is, never fitted in, used once and sold for $50.
Now I use rope to tow washing in the net. My excuse is, boat shrink to T / S.

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
17 Jan 2014 6:38PM
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southace said..

Ramona said..

Kalik 44. http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/kalik-44/137331

I would have loved to buy the Kalik 33 that was for sale in Sydney a few years ago. Another one that got away.


Nice looking boat built in 1982 ! I'm looking for around a 2000 model give or take with white leather upholstery,swim platform and little work other than a cut and polish! Oh and maybe a washing machine! Haha



Probably spend a lot of time in a marina anyway. Why not use their washing machine, update your reading material and get all the gossip!
Those Hunters used to get a regular write up in the Atlantic tours, can't remember if they were favourable or not. Search on the PBO forums or www.cruisersforum.com/. I think they had a weird main sheet traveller or something.

The Kalik has a Monitor windvane!

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
17 Jan 2014 8:55PM
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I did once help a girlfriend look at a 42ft hunter and I was blown away by the room inside.
An island bed and small bath in the main cabin was something else, and the lounge area was huge.
It was 20 years old and needed a lot of work to being it up to date with maintenance.
But being a modern boat it didn't suit Sally and she settled on a 38 ft Hans Christian with an amazing teak fit out,
And some very good gear for $128,000.

claverton
NSW, 165 posts
17 Jan 2014 9:00PM
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"As with real estate you should sell and buy in the same market. When you sell, do not wait for the market to go up before you buy"

What a load of rubbish. The second hand yacht market aint going up anytime soon.

southace
SA, 4783 posts
17 Jan 2014 8:49PM
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claverton said..

"As with real estate you should sell and buy in the same market. When you sell, do not wait for the market to go up before you buy"

What a load of rubbish. The second hand yacht market aint going up anytime soon.


Haha now that makes me laugh! I had trouble getting my head around that comment myself


How's about the Hunter36, 2011 model?

http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/2011-hunter-36/144199

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
18 Jan 2014 9:08AM
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Dezman said..

I did once help a girlfriend look at a 42ft hunter and I was blown away by the room inside.
An island bed and small bath in the main cabin was something else, and the lounge area was huge.
It was 20 years old and needed a lot of work to being it up to date with maintenance.
But being a modern boat it didn't suit Sally and she settled on a 38 ft Hans Christian with an amazing teak fit out,
And some very good gear for $128,000.



Your girlfriend had excellent taste in yachts at least!

I look at the interior photos of the large modern yachts with no handholds and the amazing distance one could be thrown across the cabin in a seaway! Nice in harbour.

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
18 Jan 2014 9:33AM
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Ramona said..



Your girlfriend had excellent taste in yachts at least!

I look at the interior photos of the large modern yachts with no handholds and the amazing distance one could be thrown across the cabin in a seaway! Nice in harbour.


Funny thing Ramona I found her yacht listed just hours after I made the comment!
When she brought it she had use of a jetty in the Brunswick harbour for $60 a week
And I could of seen her there for years.
I was in love with the fit out of teak that was at least 11/2" think everywhere, like being inside a fine piece of furniture.
Wonder how she'll go selling.

DrRog
NSW, 606 posts
18 Jan 2014 10:12AM
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What's the link to your current boat for sale, South?

southace
SA, 4783 posts
18 Jan 2014 9:53AM
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Sorry but I think teak is for old boats and perhaps old people.....modern boats should have leather or swade matched with bright light coloured bulkheads and marine carpets with just some feature timbers that's coated with uv clear, anyway that my opinion obviously some like the teak.

I have to agree with modern boats having lack of grab holds....you can see the grab holds I fitted on the above pic when I refitted. They get used so much the paint has worn away!.........but I geuss I will have to comprise now that I'm going to almost double the width of my beam!

southace
SA, 4783 posts
18 Jan 2014 9:58AM
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DrRog said..

What's the link to your current boat for sale, South?


I'm working on things, I'm not putting it on the market till after the wet season March/April .....

Agent nods
622 posts
18 Jan 2014 10:48AM
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has anyone tried something like this....2.2kg Top Load Lemair Washing Machine 20kgs 440mmx700mm fully auto 800 rpm spin...$345, cheaper than a new boat?

southace
SA, 4783 posts
18 Jan 2014 5:52PM
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I think the machine is an option in the Hunters going by my research so far.... It's a washer and dryer all in one!
Another interesting point is that most Hunter rigs are backstayless and it seem most drive is in the main rather than the headsail something to get used to for me!....I geuss backstayless would be an advantage for access to the diving platform transom!

cisco
QLD, 12348 posts
18 Jan 2014 6:30PM
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claverton said..

"As with real estate you should sell and buy in the same market. When you sell, do not wait for the market to go up before you buy"

What a load of rubbish. The second hand yacht market aint going up anytime soon.


Exactly my point.

southace
SA, 4783 posts
18 Jan 2014 7:07PM
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Sorry Cisco I read it wrong! Understand now! I'm going to move onto land for a bit till I find the right boat for the right price I'm not waiting for the market to change just waiting for right boat to come up due to our collapsing economy ! Haha

southace
SA, 4783 posts
18 Jan 2014 7:55PM
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This is my aft cabin for the past 5 years!


And this will be my aft cabin for then next 10 years!




Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
18 Jan 2014 9:54PM
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That's what I was talking about ^^^

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
19 Jan 2014 9:39PM
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Hi southace
I am also upgrading to an new Hanse 575 which will be here in time to be displayed at the Sydney boat show in August after which we will bring it home to Brisbane, hence I have placed my fully loaded 2 year old Catalina 445 on the market. I am not sure how must you are looking to pay, but if you are looking for a boat that is as new that has everything and is over 150K below replacement cost and 50K below basic sail away price, it could be worth a look at.

http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15995499&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=0&eapi=2

southace
SA, 4783 posts
19 Jan 2014 11:23PM
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Thanks for that!
Nice looking boat.
I think I have my mind set on a C/C same as my current boat, I find it more convenient for single handling docking, aft cabin, smaller dry cockpit.... And I think I'm a tad short of the price as my budget is $200k firm. But of coarse if you feel a bit overloaded with boats sitting around growing weed I'm happy to negotiate the purchase with you @ $200k cash


P.S if your ever looking for a non alcoholic master 5 skipper for your new toy.....feel free to contact me.

DrRog
NSW, 606 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:19AM
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A non-alcoholic skipper - a rarity indeed!

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
20 Jan 2014 11:33AM
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A non-alcoholic skipper - a rarity indeed!



Hard to believe, I recon a reformed drinker maybe! ;).......

southace
SA, 4783 posts
20 Jan 2014 11:28AM
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Yes you hit the nail on the head! I don't also do coffee,tea or soft drinks in this new year!

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:31PM
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Hi Southace,
Yes centre cockpits are a funny thing you either love or hate them, I am a rear cockpit man, probably from racing . We have several keen buyers for my boat, but it is the old story "They have to sell their current boat first".It does not matter whether you are selling a $10,000.00 or a $1,000,000.00 it's still the same story. There are people in all price ranges wanting to upgrade. It certainly pays to be cashed up when buying a boat as there are a lot of people out there wanting to trade their boats or make some other shady deal. A cashed up buyer is in a lot better position to negotiate a good deal.

PS . I also don't drink any hot drinks or smoke, unfortunately We all have to have some vice and I have been known to have the odd rum and beer or two. I have already got more offers than beds to help bring the new boat back from Sydney so you might be out of luck for that trip.

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
21 Jan 2014 8:58AM
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Lot of people in my local area that own two yachts. Good buy comes along they can't afford to miss. All price ranges and the second boat is hard to sell.

cisco
QLD, 12348 posts
21 Jan 2014 12:01PM
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Having been both at one time or another, I believe it is better being a Captain than an Admiral.

southace
SA, 4783 posts
21 Jan 2014 1:19PM
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Even after heavily discounting my 1st yacht over Christmas I still only managed to attract 2 prospective buyers both over 70 years old one had 3/4 of the money and the rest in opals that he needed to sell ......and the other well let's just say I didn't even answer his calls again.....

Basically I'm selling the boat for the price of the new rig we fitted a few years back so the hull is thrown in as a bonus! Yet still no real buyers! Maybe it might have to go to give away status! Haha !

Pffff and have not even started advertising 2nd yacht we will see what comes out of the woodwork when that goes on the market!

I'm actually happy with 2 yachts but no way 3!



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