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any thoughts on timber hulls

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Created by redwitch > 9 months ago, 3 Aug 2012
redwitch
TAS, 36 posts
3 Aug 2012 11:56PM
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Does anyone have any advice on timber hulls when inspecting? Huon pine hull with celery top pine decks.

redwitch
TAS, 36 posts
4 Aug 2012 12:08AM
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built 1975, well mantained from appearance

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
4 Aug 2012 8:28AM
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redwitch said...

Does anyone have any advice on timber hulls when inspecting? Huon pine hull with celery top pine decks.


Very good combination. The hull will be fine, Huon pine is the premier timber for hulls. The areas to check will be under the deck [deckhead] especially under the cockpit and under the side decks. The celery top is probably laid on plywood and its the plywood that can cause problems. The water gets in the end grain at the joins and causes grief.
Condensation is the enemy of wooden boats. Salt water is fine in the bilge but when it condenses on the underside of the decks as fresh water it can be a problematic. Check the area around the chain plates, main bulkhead etc. A lot depends on the design and the builder. Send a link and we can all be armchair buyers!

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
5 Aug 2012 11:27PM
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If you are buying a timber boat in Tassie, keep it in Tassie in those cold waters.

If you bring it into the tropics the worms will have a feast.

The boat looks really nice. The nicest looking part of it is the solid deck house, especially from the inside when it is cold and wet outside.

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
6 Aug 2012 8:41AM
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Cisco,
Is that your SS34 on yachthub? one there really cheap!

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
6 Aug 2012 8:58AM
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redwitch said...

The bilge was quite dry. She had a bit of condensation on the coach house roof. No signs of damage from it though. They have installed quite a few vents to try and eliminate this problem.
Here's the link.. let us know what you think
http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=12275374


Lovely boat. Cost out the construction in Huon pine at todays prices and you have $200,000 in a $30,000 package. Can not quite work out the hull construction. The inside photos show a couple of stringers, is the hull strip planked and Dynal sheaved?
Ideal sized boat, one that's easy to use and not become a mooring minder like all the 40 plus boats around here.

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
6 Aug 2012 11:07AM
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Ramona said...

Cisco,
Is that your SS34 on yachthub? one there really cheap!


Unfortunately yes. My partner in the boat is unable to participate in the project so has pulled out.

I am selling it at cost which does not include the $9,000 spent on storage over the last three years.

It is a very viable project which when completed will result in a yacht worth considerably more than the overall cost.

I can hear you thinking "Yeah, well I have heard that before." but like you said, "Cost out the construction in Huon pine new at todays prices and you have $200,000 $160,000 in a $30,000 $18,000 package.

The yacht is complete with mast boom, and sails except for rigging and the hull and engine are quite sound. So buying this is like buying a kit yacht, putting it together and adding one's personal touches.

I have decided to cut my losses and concentrate on my Van De Stadt 34 which has a lot roomier interior and a "stand up" shower and head to keep the wife happy.

If it does not sell in the next couple of months, I will build a cradle and have it put in my back yard. Probably my best option but I do not see the yacht market coming good for quite a few years yet.

The way the authorities have gone with regulations and restrictions plus insurance requirements lately, yachting has become the domain of the dedicated and the financial.

When we motored past Mooloolaba last Wednesday we noticed that the W.A.G.S. fleet was only about a third of what it used to be. A fairly indicative sign of the times.

redwitch
TAS, 36 posts
19 Aug 2012 10:15AM
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Going through first stages of contract with rep today, both excited yet nervous about owning my first yacht that is 10ft plus. What would a rough guesstimate on dynal sheaving a 33ft yacht be if that's what i wanted to do in a few years?

rumblefish
TAS, 824 posts
19 Aug 2012 3:08PM
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You wouldn't dynal sheave a huon yacht, or any planked boat for that matter.

Our ex-Tassie Cray boat is Kauri and is 60 years old and the only place there is any rot has been at deck level where rain water was getting in.

If you want to re-furb the hull I would be striping back to timber, re-caulking and then re-painting.

redwitch
TAS, 36 posts
19 Aug 2012 3:24PM
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Thanks for the vote of confidence in timer rumblefish. Contract done, nervous as all hell and didnt think I would feel like this . Takes me back to when i was younger and was about to jump into bed with a girl the first time....

redwitch
TAS, 36 posts
19 Aug 2012 3:28PM
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Have the name of Patrick Synge as a good surveyor in southern tas. Any thoughts or recommendations from you guys down that end would be appreciated.

redwitch
TAS, 36 posts
30 Aug 2012 12:00AM
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Well, I've bought the bloody yacht..finally! Thanks for all the advice. See some of you down in the channel in the near future!

redwitch
TAS, 36 posts
4 Sep 2012 10:43PM
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Finally off the arm chair and living the dream!!











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