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dodgers

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Created by SandS > 9 months ago, 23 Jun 2011
SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
23 Jun 2011 9:33PM
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what have people tried? ,your standard steel frame and canvas, ply, fiber glass any other Ideas?
has any one tried heavy perspex?

Disralei
NSW, 127 posts
23 Jun 2011 10:23PM
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Hi SandS

Please clarify what you mean in construction of the dodger, the standard would be S/S frame, Boat hooding rather than canvas and the best clear or tinted clear you can afford, I have used on my dodger. Personally I am very impressed with the dodger I have had built for my yacht, it has taken a pounding on one trip up the coast, Sydney to Newcastle, 35 to 45 knots on the nose, and took several waves face and one real doozie that knocked me off my feet and I was standing behind the dodger, washed me out onto the sugar scoop, thank god for life lines. are you trying to re invent the wheel or do you have something more specific in mind to suit your yacht...?

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
23 Jun 2011 10:58PM
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Disralei said...

Hi SandS

Please clarify what you mean in construction of the dodger, the standard would be S/S frame, Boat hooding rather than canvas and the best clear or tinted clear you can afford, I have used on my dodger. Personally I am very impressed with the dodger I have had built for my yacht, it has taken a pounding on one trip up the coast, Sydney to Newcastle, 35 to 45 knots on the nose, and took several waves face and one real doozie that knocked me off my feet and I was standing behind the dodger, washed me out onto the sugar scoop, thank god for life lines. are you trying to re invent the wheel or do you have something more specific in mind to suit your yacht...?


yes thats it

pacemaker2
VIC, 11 posts
23 Jun 2011 10:59PM
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Hi Sands I have a two tonner that I am considering a fixed dodger for, and mid boom traveller. It will make or break the looks of the boat and the design is taking a lot of consideration

cisco
QLD, 12353 posts
24 Jun 2011 2:30AM
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Solid dodgers usually look like crap from the outside but tend to take on a beauty of their own when one is helming behind one in foul weather.

The Laurent-Giles "Salar 40" is one of the few yachts with a solid dodger that fits the asthetic and looks like it was meant to be there.

If you are fitting a hoop frame and cloth dodger I think it is worth the extra dollars to use stainless for the hoops and metal hinge fittings.

"Solar Stop" the same colour as your sail cover is a good idea too.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
24 Jun 2011 8:07PM
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pacemaker2 said...

Hi Sands I have a two tonner that I am considering a fixed dodger for, and mid boom traveller. It will make or break the looks of the boat and the design is taking a lot of consideration


yes it is a difficult design job , as a lot of the traditional type do look horrible.

I,m thinking i may build a curved ply proto type first .

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
24 Jun 2011 8:12PM
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cisco said...

Solid dodgers usually look like crap from the outside but tend to take on a beauty of their own when one is helming behind one in foul weather.

The Laurent-Giles "Salar 40" is one of the few yachts with a solid dodger that fits the asthetic and looks like it was meant to be there.

If you are fitting a hoop frame and cloth dodger I think it is worth the extra dollars to use stainless for the hoops and metal hinge fittings.

"Solar Stop" the same colour as your sail cover is a good idea too.


yes your right about most looking like crap, I have put this off for that reason.

as most of the use is racing , so its almost better without one . but in heavy seaway conditions it would be a bit more cosey for crew and dryer companionway.

cisco
QLD, 12353 posts
25 Jun 2011 1:17AM
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Agree!!

whiteout
QLD, 267 posts
25 Jun 2011 11:16PM
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I think the sunbrella and stainless frame is good.

whiteout
QLD, 267 posts
25 Jun 2011 11:17PM
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I think the sunbrella and stainless frame is good.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 Jun 2011 11:49PM
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thanks for the pic , I do like the grab handles! great Idea, never seen a dodger with those before.

Ramona
NSW, 7661 posts
26 Jun 2011 8:44AM
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SandS said...

thanks for the pic , I do like the grab handles! great Idea, never seen a dodger with those before.


Air Brake!

Jedibrad
NSW, 527 posts
26 Jun 2011 3:15PM
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Ugly but functional


50mm aluminium section, checker plate on top

on the list to change one day

planesailing
WA, 380 posts
26 Jun 2011 3:41PM
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Ramona said...

SandS said...

thanks for the pic , I do like the grab handles! great Idea, never seen a dodger with those before.


Air Brake!

DOWN wind secret weapon >?

Ramona
NSW, 7661 posts
26 Jun 2011 6:23PM
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planesailing said...

Ramona said...

SandS said...

thanks for the pic , I do like the grab handles! great Idea, never seen a dodger with those before.


Air Brake!

DOWN wind secret weapon >?



Bit of a nightmare too if your on an estuary mooring with strong Westerlies. Sailing rapidly around the mooring with just the right tide.

I like the catamaran one though!

planesailing
WA, 380 posts
26 Jun 2011 4:39PM
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p.s. didnt mean anything direspectful whiteout.
to each their own.
as per my picture i like em-low.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
26 Jun 2011 8:15PM
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Ramona said...

SandS said...

thanks for the pic , I do like the grab handles! great Idea, never seen a dodger with those before.


Air Brake!


yes it,s all a trade off, but if your going to have a masive dodger , that is going to create windage, you may as well be able to walk around it safely, and hang on to it.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
26 Jun 2011 8:23PM
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Jedibrad said...

Ugly but functional


50mm aluminium section, checker plate on top

on the list to change one day


nice cat ,what is it? as far as the dodger goes i recon it can be saved! may be consider moveing the two back legs, foward at the bottom so that they come square off the sloping part of the boat that the small winches are mounted on next to your legs ,
as this would better reflect the other angles on the boat !

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
26 Jun 2011 8:26PM
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planesailing said...

p.s. didnt mean anything direspectful whiteout.
to each their own.
as per my picture i like em-low.




that is a lovely looking boat ,

planesailing
WA, 380 posts
26 Jun 2011 7:35PM
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Thanks SandS we love her!
The dodger is canvas over stainless, it is rather low but gives the helm
a good view forward without relying on looking thru plastic windows.
Means you have to duck or loose teeth when going below lol.



This picture was in Melbourne, it took some time to get JUST right.

whiteout
QLD, 267 posts
26 Jun 2011 10:43PM
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Different dodgers different applications nice pic of the cole 43 mine is of my new boat adams 35 personal preference dictates what you want and like.

Jedibrad
NSW, 527 posts
27 Jun 2011 6:46PM
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nice cat ,what is it? as far as the dodger goes i recon it can be saved! may be consider moveing the two back legs, foward at the bottom so that they come square off the sloping part of the boat that the small winches are mounted on next to your legs ,
as this would better reflect the other angles on the boat !

Ta, Beach Marine PC11, I agree with the angles thing. I'll rebuild it out of lighter materials one day. I'll also do the davits/net lounge modelled off hangtime

I always have a bit of a giggle when i see people on sleek boats baking in the sun all day and getting soggy in the rain



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