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Created by theace > 9 months ago, 23 Jan 2014
theace
NSW, 70 posts
23 Jan 2014 11:12AM
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hi gents, I need to climb up my mast to replace the nav lights and wind vane I haven't done this before and I don't know anyone who has.My question is can I use the jib uphaul to raise the mainsheet block to the top of the mast and use the bottom block attached to the bosuns chair to raise myself up the mast. This will give me a 4/1 ratio the rope will pass through a single sheave and back to my winch. I can use the spinnacker uphaul attached to the bosuns chair as an extra saqfety line. OK or foolhardy.

MorningBird
NSW, 2662 posts
23 Jan 2014 1:24PM
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I assume you mean halyard where you say uphaul? Not sure what you mean by mainsheet block and bottom block. I think I'm missing something here.

I just tie the bosuns chair to the main halyard, don't use the shackle, and get someone else to tighten up on the main halyard as I climb the mast. I have the genoa or spinnaker halyard tied to the chair as a backup. They ease the halyards as I descend.

QLDCruiser
QLD, 160 posts
23 Jan 2014 12:41PM
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Falling from more than a couple of meters will really spoil your day. I'm probably more cautious than most when doing this. I got advice from a friend who's an experienced rock climber before setting up my system.

I use a safety system that's completely independant from the chair and whatever is pulling it up. The safety protects you not only against the main support failing (line breakage, block failure, knot failure etc), but also a chair failure or even falling out of the chair. A bit hard to describe without pictures, but very simple. The essentials are a harness, about 1.5m of 8mm braid, a short length of ~6mm braid tied securely in a loop, and a spare rope halyard tied at the base of the mast, pulled taut, and cleated off securely. You tie the braid loop to the halyard with a prusik knot, and use the 1.5m braid to connect your harness to the loop (using a bowline at each end). The prusik knot is the key (google it). While you're moving up or down, just grab the prusik knot and slide it with you. But if there is a failure, tension will cause it to lock. From time to time you might need to stop to untie and retie your 1.5m braid at one end, to navigate past spreaders etc.

Mind you, your problems wouldn't be entirely over if you did have a breakage and ended up dangling from your harness and safety line near the masthead. But you'd be in a much better situation than the alternative.

Always tie the halyard to your chair with a bowline, don't use a snap shackle.

QLDCruiser
QLD, 160 posts
23 Jan 2014 12:47PM
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Much better to get someone to help (using a halyard on a winch) than try to pull yourself up. And what you're describing using a mainsheet tackle system is an accident waiting to happen. For one, you've got to hold the tension on the mainsheet all the time - one slip and down you go. Or are you going to trust a cam cleat? And for another, 4:1 means an awful lot of spare line (ie, at least 40 - 60m) to try to control.

Charriot
QLD, 880 posts
23 Jan 2014 3:28PM
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Theace. That's the way I do it. Simply because, my mate couldn't winch me up.
We need it 1 to 4 , very convenient . I used extra long brand new rope through the blocks.
Alway use the way Morning Bird suggest .
Main halyard winch the block. Spin. halyard as safety back up.
Make sure your tool bag and tools are secure, if you drop anything,
Could be potential injury or damage.
To stop me going up and down, I take spare light rope with me
In case I need more tools, drop the rope and winch the bucket with more stuff.

MattM14
NSW, 187 posts
23 Jan 2014 4:54PM
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Watch footage of any of those Vende Globe or other solo sailors climbing their masts and you will see it can be done very safely providing you get to pick the conditions in which you attempt it. From what I can tell they seem to use a variation on the method described by QLDCruiser.
It would be possible to climb the full length of your mast using prussik loops. One for your foot and one for your harness (3rd one on a separate halyard would be good measure for safety). Stand up on the foot loop and slide the (now unweighted) harness loop up the halyard. Weight the harness loop by sitting down and then slide the (unweighted) foot loop up the halyard. Stand up on the foot loop and repeat the process until you reach the top. Be warned, this is exhausting. You then have to reverse the process to get down unless you have a descending device you can use to attach to a spare halyard.
A more up-market version of this method (and the one it seems favoured by those solo sailors) is to use a couple of ascenders www.climbinganchors.com.au/climbing-gear/belay-devices-ascenders-descenders/ascenders/

These do the same thing as the prussik loops but are easier to move along the fixed rope.

scruzin
SA, 509 posts
23 Jan 2014 5:04PM
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Using a second person to winch you up is obviously best, but if you need to ascend your mast solo, you just need a couple of high-quality mountain climbing ascenders and a good climbing harness, in addition to your bosun's chair. Paddy Pallin or similar can set you up.

I use the system that Allen Edwards describes in his article (l-36.com/mast_climbing.php). I've done it many times and I thoroughly recommend this setup. The key thing is to use TWO halyards, one of which you actually ascend, and the other as a safety line that you tie a Prusik knot to and attach to your climbing harness. Very safe and very easy.


Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
23 Jan 2014 6:50PM
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Thanks for the link scruzin.

I have a bosuns chair but after using a climbing harness rock climbing on a cruise ship I will never be using it again. To ascend I eventually intend to make one of these.
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Haul up a rope on a halyard just for the ascender so it can be lowered after and descend on a bought bit of kit http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251280332976?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Plenty of videos on Youtube for this subject.

southace
SA, 4776 posts
23 Jan 2014 9:29PM
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Don't tell anyone but I can get to my 2nd set of spreaders while sailing with out a chair or safety line!







theace
NSW, 70 posts
24 Jan 2014 10:22AM
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morningbird,sorry about the terminology but I have been out of the sailing game for more than 50 years,there is still some catching up to do.Chariot is on the money.I will have a couple of offsiders to assist.Thanks all for your input.



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