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Created by brizzydave > 9 months ago, 8 Nov 2013
brizzydave
406 posts
8 Nov 2013 4:52PM
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Went out today, was blowing a steady 15, lumpy but no real big white caps.
boat went well, we gave it a real hiding to see what it would do and also checked out its pointing abilities.

nothing broke which was a bonus.

attached a speed pic from the gps. got up to 5.9 knots at a few stages but i rounded up cause im a girl sometimes, and the rigging and gear is old as the hills.

things i don't like...rudder response (pretty crap)......gotta drive the boat around the corner at full speed or it doesn't wanna go about. When running...the following seas make the boat wanna turn too much. think i better glass a foot long extension on the bottom of the rudder or something. Its not a sports boat of course but its interesting to fiddle with.

so...we get back to manly and my dad goes..."did you screw those rubber gunwales on?"...Nope. both gone. ooops. lol better get to whitworths!!



brizzydave
406 posts
9 Nov 2013 7:22AM
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Am I right by saying the helm will always be sluggish with a skeg mounted imbalanced rudder? Will extending the bottom section into a partial spade setup help?

Fiesta
QLD, 122 posts
9 Nov 2013 10:01AM
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Brizzydave,

I would probably look at a few other things before using the last resort as the first option......Warwick Hood probably knew his onions when he designed the Hood23 and sized the rudder to suit. Having said that Ive only sailed a Hood 23 the once so I'm not all knowing on the design.

Things like how the weight is distributed in the boat and sail trim can make a big difference to the steering in a little boat. I notice an immediate difference to the helm when I get a few people sitting near the transom on our 20fter.

If its been a while since the antifoul then thats something else to consider.

Having said all that I took the angle grinder to my swing rudder blade to re-balance things and put some more wetted area infront of the pintles to reduce the load on the helm, which has worked out well. The tinkering can be satisfying when it works.....

brizzydave
406 posts
9 Nov 2013 9:08AM
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thanks fiesta.
the centerboard trailer yachts ive sailed are so responsive and turn in their own length. the size of the transom mount rudders are twice my rudder size. do you think im just not used to the whole keel boat setup?

Charriot
QLD, 880 posts
9 Nov 2013 11:08AM
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Use to sail Adventure 7 and now Aquarius 23, both experience sluggish rudder when overpowered.
If, in tight situation to tack, I push the button to star the engine.
I don't think it's design problem, just too much sails.

brizzydave
406 posts
9 Nov 2013 9:21AM
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thanks charriot ill keep that in mind and you are prob right about that.
the thing i am worried about most is that it kinda wanders a bit and needs over correction even when motoring.
think i just gotta get used to it.

Charriot
QLD, 880 posts
9 Nov 2013 11:55AM
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This is simple with an outboard, like mine set up.
Hold the tiller strait and adjust the outboard until the boat goes strait.
I'll do it nearly every time.
If you have outboard, ask See breeze experten, I wouldn't know.

brizzydave
406 posts
9 Nov 2013 11:21AM
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I'll work out the centre of effort and resistance and try and balance the thing better and try diff heads'ls and go from there.



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