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12'6 PSH Hull Ocean paddler

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Created by AA > 9 months ago, 25 Apr 2012
Slappysan
22 posts
23 Aug 2012 8:46AM
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Is this board available in North America?

The closest I could find was blue line www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=bluelinepaddlesurf&e=com but they don't have the 12'6.

This board is the boardworks Hull Paddler 12'6" right? www.boardworkssup.com/boards/psh.php

hilly
WA, 7483 posts
23 Aug 2012 11:53AM
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Slappysan said...

Is this board available in North America?

The closest I could find was blue line www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=bluelinepaddlesurf&e=com but they don't have the 12'6.

This board is the boardworks Hull Paddler 12'6" right? www.boardworkssup.com/boards/psh.php


Looks like it

GizzieNZ
4103 posts
23 Aug 2012 6:17PM
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hilly said...

OG SUP said...

hilly said...

GizzieNZ said...

The topic is posted on a public forum....seems a bit strange you have to do a "secret squirrel" sort of thing sending personal messages to people in order to further the discussion


You were after advice just offering an option. I get heaps of pm's about the boards I ride, more direct route and you get honest feedback. There is a thread in the review section as well.

AA reckons it is a classic like the 12er was. I think I will get one.


Still has a 12ver in mint condition if the new board is half as good buy it




Just watch the ribs



True....big wave plus big board plus impact zone......the human body could be just the mincemeat in the middle....always a worry :)

hilly
WA, 7483 posts
23 Aug 2012 6:22PM
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GizzieNZ said...

hilly said...

OG SUP said...

hilly said...

GizzieNZ said...

The topic is posted on a public forum....seems a bit strange you have to do a "secret squirrel" sort of thing sending personal messages to people in order to further the discussion


You were after advice just offering an option. I get heaps of pm's about the boards I ride, more direct route and you get honest feedback. There is a thread in the review section as well.

AA reckons it is a classic like the 12er was. I think I will get one.


Still has a 12ver in mint condition if the new board is half as good buy it




Just watch the ribs



True....big wave plus big board plus impact zone......the human body could be just the mincemeat in the middle....always a worry :)




Phill has done it before

Slappysan
22 posts
25 Aug 2012 3:31AM
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Bump. Still wondering if this board is available in NA.

Slappysan said...

Is this board available in North America?

The closest I could find was blue line www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=bluelinepaddlesurf&e=com but they don't have the 12'6.

This board is the boardworks Hull Paddler 12'6" right? www.boardworkssup.com/boards/psh.php


AA
NSW, 2159 posts
25 Aug 2012 12:24PM
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Slappysan said...

Is this board available in North America?

The closest I could find was blue line www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=bluelinepaddlesurf&e=com but they don't have the 12'6.

This board is the boardworks Hull Paddler 12'6" right? www.boardworkssup.com/boards/psh.php


Slightly different construction and Dim's on the Boardworks model
The BW model is molded PVC and slightly beafier.

The 12'6 and 14' Hull Ocean Paddler we have is Vac sandwiched PVC. Hand laid. No mould involved.

SaltH20
123 posts
26 Aug 2012 12:25PM
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AA said...


Slightly different construction and Dim's on the Boardworks model
The BW model is molded PVC and slightly beafier.

The 12'6 and 14' Hull Ocean Paddler we have is Vac sandwiched PVC. Hand laid. No mould involved.


What would be the difference between the two constructions?
Would one be more durable than the other?
What about weight?
The dims are not the same?? Are they much different?

I'm about to put a deposit on a 12'6" here in the states...it is from Boardworks... not directly from BC @ PSH.

I have been stoked reading all the reviews...now I'm a bit weary. Should I be?

Thanks in advance for some feedback.

GizzieNZ
4103 posts
26 Aug 2012 12:40PM
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SaltH20 said...

AA said...


Slightly different construction and Dim's on the Boardworks model
The BW model is molded PVC and slightly beafier.

The 12'6 and 14' Hull Ocean Paddler we have is Vac sandwiched PVC. Hand laid. No mould involved.


What would be the difference between the two constructions?
Would one be more durable than the other?
What about weight?
The dims are not the same?? Are they much different?

I'm about to put a deposit on a 12'6" here in the states...it is from Boardworks... not directly from BC @ PSH.

I have been stoked reading all the reviews...now I'm a bit weary. Should I be?

Thanks in advance for some feedback.



Finally whacked down the deposit on one.....should be here as an early xmas present at the latest...maybe even November

SaltH20
123 posts
26 Aug 2012 10:15PM
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Come on guys...no love for the American? LOL

Any help would be appreciated....re last post...Thanks!!!

CB1
23 posts
26 Aug 2012 10:52PM
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Just guessing, but the Boardworks models are probably early first generation models. These guys get the latest shapes before they hit our shores. PSH website doesn't even show the 12'6 PVC Vacuum bagged board yet. To get the latest one, you probably would have to contact PSH directly. The US mainland distributor, Onboard Watersports, doesn't show the PVC VB line up.

SaltH20
123 posts
26 Aug 2012 11:32PM
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CB1 said...

Just guessing, but the Boardworks models are probably early first generation models. These guys get the latest shapes before they hit our shores. PSH website doesn't even show the 12'6 PVC Vacuum bagged board yet. To get the latest one, you probably would have to contact PSH directly. The US mainland distributor, Onboard Watersports, doesn't show the PVC VB line up.



I just emailed PSH asking a bunch of questions. Dimensions, Construction, Weight, Volume and Colors.

When I get the answers I will post them here. From what I know the Boardworks version was just released at the latest 2012 Expo here in the U.S.

You might be right...it may have been updated since then with new construction and dimensions.

Again, will post once I get a response. (PSH is closed on Sundays...so hopefully I will get an answer tomorrow)

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
27 Aug 2012 9:18AM
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Salt, we have not seen the Boardworks version of the 12'6 Hull OCean paddler down here so it is hard to comment.
Boardworks generally pick up the classic shapes out of Blane's line and make them with their molded PVC technology, which has proven to be top shelf. Weight wise I hear they are very similar, which they should be, as they both use the same materials in the construction - high density PVC wrap.



As for the difference in Dim's, they are minor.
If there are any differences you will need to do some digging in the US.

Let us know how you go.

SaltH20
123 posts
27 Aug 2012 8:40AM
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AA- Thanks for getting back with a response

I will post the response from PSH when I get it. I have asked on SUZ FORUM...not much is known.

So you do not think the difference on Dim's will make any noticeable difference?

And construction wise...nothing to worry about?...You dig what Boardworks is putting out?

I only have enough $$ for a 1 board quiver...barely have that!!!...LOL.. but having a board of my own is way over due!!!

I think the 12'6" Hull Paddler is the answer.

Distance touring/ fitness/ surfing/ fishing are my priorities maybe a DW eventually.

Thanks again in advance for responding

SaltH20
123 posts
28 Aug 2012 7:46AM
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SO HERE IS WHAT I FOUND OUT...I ALSO ADDED A FEW FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

I just got an email back from PSH about the Hull Paddler.

According to PSH:
"This is a little confusing and I hope I can explain this as simple as possible. Boardworks has some PSH models that are theirs to exclusively manufacture and distribute. The 12-6 PSH Boardworks model is theirs. Australia and Hawaii have our own version of the 12-6 Hull Paddler and in Hawaii we are still in a prototype stage. We hope to start sales next year for the 12-6 x 29 3/4 x 5 3/4 model."

They also said the the Boardworks Hull Paddler was designed by Blane.

Ok so the Boardworks version is thicker and wider -

Width: 30 1/4"
Thickness: 6 1/8"

compared to

the AU/HI version which is -

Width: 29 3/4
Thickness: 5 3/4

Since I am fairly new to paddling...How much would this affect the board and what would be the affect? Would it be noticeable? Any reason for concern?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks again in advance.

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
28 Aug 2012 12:19PM
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Salt, the moulded Boardworks version will have slightly more volume and be a little bit more forgiving than the Vacuum bagged version we have.

Both the PVC Boardworks construcion and the PSH PVC sandwich are considered to be one of the best constructions available in a SUP. The only difference is how they actually manufacture them.

The PVC (Divinycell) skin is 3mm of high density laminate that increases durability without increasing weight.
The PVC also helps with dings and moisture penetrationn as its higher density makes it harder to break the surface and there is 3mm to get through before you hit the EPS core which can suck in water.

"Distance touring/ fitness/ surfing/ fishing are my priorities maybe a DW eventually."

There are plenty of boards that will beat it point to point in calm to moderate conditions but its comfort and stability in chop, open ocean and rough conditions (down winders) along with its ability to crank a turn like no other board it's size puts it in a class of its own, we believe. If you read through the threads and comments on this board you will see that this is backed up by those who have spent time on it. Enjoy! Cheers AA

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
28 Aug 2012 12:21PM
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AA Said (There are plenty of boards that will beat it point to point in calm to moderate conditions but its comfort and stability in chop, open ocean and rough conditions (down winders) along with its ability to crank a turn like no other board it's size puts it in a class of its own, we believe. If you read through the threads and comments on this board you will see that this is backed up by those who have spent time on it. Enjoy! Cheers AA)


Would agree with this , in the flat will get beaten by most other 12,6 boards , but choppy , windy ect the board goes unreal. Only had it on one downwinder but showed enough it would be xcellent in those conditions also. Where it really will shine is when the swell gets big

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
28 Aug 2012 12:59PM
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SaltH20 said...

How much would this affect the board and what would be the affect? Would it be noticeable? Any reason for concern?

The Dim's are very similar. The BW version will have more float and stability. How noticeable depends on your weight and what you are doing at the time. Salt your local dealer could answer these in detail. Cheers AA


SaltH20
123 posts
28 Aug 2012 8:56PM
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Jamy from PSH sent me another email.

Jamy was very clear about the two boards and the differences.

Thanks to everyone on here who replied.

I will be taking the Boardworks version for a spin here soon.

Stoked!!! :)

Slappysan
22 posts
29 Aug 2012 4:33AM
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SaltH20 said...

Jamy from PSH sent me another email.

Jamy was very clear about the two boards and the differences.


So what did Jamy have to say?

OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
29 Aug 2012 2:19PM
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Hey Hilly,

Not everyone is a dumb ass like me

I would also fall over a camera tripod!

Phill

hilly said...

GizzieNZ said...

hilly said...

OG SUP said...

hilly said...

GizzieNZ said...

The topic is posted on a public forum....seems a bit strange you have to do a "secret squirrel" sort of thing sending personal messages to people in order to further the discussion


You were after advice just offering an option. I get heaps of pm's about the boards I ride, more direct route and you get honest feedback. There is a thread in the review section as well.

AA reckons it is a classic like the 12er was. I think I will get one.


Still has a 12ver in mint condition if the new board is half as good buy it




Just watch the ribs



True....big wave plus big board plus impact zone......the human body could be just the mincemeat in the middle....always a worry :)




Phill has done it before



SaltH20
123 posts
31 Aug 2012 10:36AM
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said...


SaltH20 said...

Jamy from PSH sent me another email.

Jamy was very clear about the two boards and the differences.


So what did Jamy have to say?


Aloha Dan,
If the conditions where you paddle or surf are choppy most of the time, I would go for the wider board. Blane designed the Boardworks 12-6 as a touring/paddling board, mostly for comfort and user friendly because its more stable. The 12-6 model we are testing is designed with a little more performance for surfing in mind, hence the narrower width and less thickness. As big as these boards are, our version is great in the surf. The Boardworks model which is thicker, will have more buoyancy and probably have better glide, although not as high performance as the one we're coming out with. Our 12-6, because its not as thick and wide as the Boardworks model, will have better surfing performance, but you'll also give up a little bit of glide and stability. If you're looking to surf this 12-6, the newer version will be a better choice.
Hope this information helps.

Mahalo,
Jamy



My Response:

Jamy,

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain the boards. It means a lot. Great customer service!!!

To clarify:

I will be touring/paddling probably 70-75% of the time...so I am leaning towards the Boardworks version.

I DO want to be able to snag SOME waves...nothing more than Hawaiian ripples...waist/stomach high...chest high @ best!!!

From what I gather from your response is that the Boardworks version will accomplish all that I want out of the board.

I think that if I am to start surfing more it would be in my best interest to get a a smaller PSH that is more surf specific at that time.

The version you are working on sounds awesome(and looks in the video's) but is more geared to skilled surfers looking for a bigger board that will really perform when they get to their out-of-the-way destination.

If the Boardworks version is able to be ridden in the surf I described and has better glide I think I should lean in that direction.

Do you agree?

Thanks for all your time and your effort.



Jamy:

Aloha Dan,
You got exactly what I was trying to explain. Our version is geared more for surfing & performance. I think if you're not surfing with it as much the Boardworks would be a better choice. If & when you get your board, we hoped you're stoked with it.
Mahalo,
Jamy


GizzieNZ
4103 posts
1 Sep 2012 9:27AM
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Salty said..."I DO want to be able to snag SOME waves...nothing more than Hawaiian ripples...waist/stomach high...chest high @ best!!!"

Come on Salty....that board should (even if its the slightly bloatier boardworks version) handle fat nonthreatening 10 to 15 foot faces

SaltH20
123 posts
1 Sep 2012 10:45AM
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I am going for a paddle on it tomorrow.

No waves in the area so just going for a cruise.

The owner of the shop gave very explicit instructions, " You ding it, you buy it."

Almost nervous to take it out. I'm serious...LOL

Should give me a good idea whether it's the board for me or not.



GizzieNZ
4103 posts
1 Sep 2012 10:51AM
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Well maybe he is not all bad in that he is giving you a chance to take it for a paddle. We don't get that opportunity.
Looking forward to hear of your adventure. Sounds like you have done lots of research

SaltH20
123 posts
1 Sep 2012 10:56AM
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OH and my older brother is going to be with me...it will be his 1st time paddling. Stoked!!!

GizzieNZ
4103 posts
1 Sep 2012 11:05AM
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Please remember that we want photos

SaltH20
123 posts
2 Sep 2012 10:31AM
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Well, I took the Hull Paddler out for a spin today. Didn't make it to the ocean...my brother was visiting and it was his 1st time paddling...would have been too much for him. So STOKED...got to try the PSH and have my brother experience SUP'n. Does it get much better?

Back to the board...

I LOVE IT!!! It has great Glide...it's no full-displacement nose but I was impressed at how much glide I got out of it and how well it tracked. Not sure on the weight but I'd say it was in the mid-to high 20's...I doubt it made 30lbs. but not sure. It's initial stability was a little tippier than I expected...but quickly adjusted...the secondary stability is fantastic. The chined rails really help in that regard. I stepped back on the tail to do some pivot turns and wow is that thing responsive...yes, so much so I found the drink. LOL After a few attempts I found the "sweet" spot and was spinning around and around. I look forward to another go on it...ocean bound next time.

It is now on HOLD for me. I will be putting deposit on it asap and making a few payments on it...it's the best I can do. I feel like a little kid waiting for xmas morning...it just can't happen soon enough.

Ahhh the pic's...didn't have digital with...sorry...but I did take some with a disposable H2O proof...so I am going to see what I can do to convert them this week....sorry everyone/Gizzie

Hope everyone who reads this has a great weekend.

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
2 Sep 2012 8:49PM
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Done a litle Downwinder Saturday nothing epic , but i can tell in smoking downwind conditions this board would be heaps better than my Fanatic 14 , picks up bumps easily and the best thing very stable , intsead of concentrating on keeping balance can paddle with full power. I doubt very much there would be a better 12,6 surfing board.

jt737
QLD, 418 posts
2 Sep 2012 9:45PM
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Who on the Sunnie Coast or Gold Coast has one to demo please?

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
3 Sep 2012 6:58PM
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JT, SURFX at Southport have a 12'6 demo board to try.
127 Ferry Road Southport QLD 4215 (07)5531 3199



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