unless you weight is well over 120kgs i highly doudt a 4 inch thick board is flexing at all especialy with all the 6oz cloth on it and them stiffening up the rails with carbon on them,this would create less flex again the carbon could help for strenght though and stiffness!
thesupshop did you just say im narrow minded? good on you mate you tool, so sorry to question something on a public forum. Guess i hit a sore spot.
But whatever i really dont want to get into a debate here so go flexyourself
thesupshop hey sorry to blow up just dont like being refered to as narrow minded when im far from it, but all good hey casso newy looks good and he is surfing well on it now hes even harder to beat
goatman can hardly turn if it wasnt for me your right hilly!
ive seen him on a well known pop out brand in good surf and well it was strange almost funny to watch the guy get fustrated with not being able to surf well
Don't know if anybody here has surfed firewire surfboards but you can definetly feel a bit of flex on the standard surfboard shapes that are normal thickness but the thicker retro fish/hybred boards i dont think flex at all. Great boards the dominators,el feugo etc but not much flex to me. Now they are less than 3 inches thick with balsa rails and 4 oz cloth so I would doubt you could get a 4 inch thick sup to flex with the constuction used on the anderson. just a wanky name. nice shape, could do with more rocker.but may work ok on small waves.
I cant believe you guys dont think a stand up flexes. that blog spot i posted of woodys stated he had too much flex!!
3 ex pro surfers (not windsurfers)are saying the "simon's"flex..
Is FLEX the wrong word? if so, i get a TWANG out of my boards (not FF)..
If you wanted a measured result, how many variables are you going to consider. weight /ability shape/rocker/foil and volume of a board etc. And you will never get mother nature to give you a consistent testing ground for that sort of data. And would you be willing to pay an additional $500 a board to pay for the research results??
Various grades of foam, concentrated patches of glass and weight in areas of the board/rail will have an affect on board performance.
I dont thnk theyre (FF) making any unfounded claims. i however would be looking at why the average golf haker would need to choose from a variety of 20 different shaft "flexes" to gain an extra 5' of distance. Nothings going to help my swing
If it wasnt for windsurfers, you blokes would still be shaping 12kg sups in pu....
Hey, if you can feel the flex, great.
Some people rekon there "power balance" works.
you're going to have to direct all your tech questions to hayden, cause i really don't care if there's 1.75 mm of flex as opposed to 1.83 mm in the bottom 1/4 of my inside rail.
I imagine, cause i don't do it, that windsurfers would need to be quite rigid, depending on the discipline.
As far as surfboards go, in another life i had pro surfers chucking man tantrums about not having 1/16" "wax comb lines" on the bottom of there boards because they wanted it there to stiffen up. Id also have joe punter telling me that the 1/8" difference in ther board width just ruined their indo plans.
I think well have to agree to disagree on this topic.
or i might just want to give up on trying to convince you, cause all you West Oz folk ride pop outs any way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUUUURN, booyashaka..................
There are some good pop outs around....
People go on and on about importing a few pop out surfboards, then go buy a local custom to make sure they do the auusie thing, then tie it on the roof of there imported car worth 100 x the value?
Hate to burst your bubble mate, but have swapped em out for some nice stiff Carbon beauties. Definately no flex there. I don't particularly want it either thanks.
Back on topic, I had a look at Casso's stick on the weekend and it was very nice - weight was good, surprisingly wide in the tail compared to the pics - pretty low volume rails. He surfed very very well on it in his first round, just didn't get waves in the semi.
Im glad you put something in that complemented the quality of dans board. i was even going to send you a set of my favorites.
I could really get started on this one. The windsurfer comments always get me going. I won't though, it's too nice a day outside.
Does a SUP flex? If you can flex it upside down on hard ground with 1 times gravity you would be surprised how many G's momentarily pass through a board in a turn. It's not how much the board flexes it's how it rebounds that you can or can't feel. Some boards feel alive, this is twang or rebound from the board and fins. If you don't think you are already feeling it make the same board twice with and without a stringer, make the same board again with a bamboo laminate. Then really kill it by making another and glassing it, putting a layer of divinycell, more glass and a kilo of car paint and see what happens. Your common sense tells you that these boards would all feel different. I think you are already feeling flex.
I was going to run the experiment of making the same board 3 times in 3 different constructions to demonstrate the differences of flex and performance, spoke to SUP World, had the materials and labour sponsored for free but never proceeded as the effort towards an apathetic market of people sold on mass produced boards really did not seem worth it.
I think if you put more time and effort into effective design it would pay off more than worrying about a couple of millimeteres of flex.
I think there is a lot of merit in flex goaty. Its worth while if you can find out a way of doing in on a 4 inch thick blank. Putting carbon on the rails aint it
I am with you at this stage, better concentrating on the shape.
It will take a major change in construction before we see it.
