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allwave 9.2 versus allwave 9.6

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Created by sameh > 9 months ago, 30 Mar 2012
sameh
WA, 310 posts
30 Mar 2012 11:07PM
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i have received a few messages lately asking to show the differences between the allwave 9.2 and 9.6 and to clarify why i prefer the 9.6. To start with, i am a long term surfer who has been supping for a couple of years now. Im 106 kg and of moderate ability. Im not into paddling but i surf at least a couple of times a week conditions permitting. I surf mostly in the metro perth and mandurah area so the waves are generally smallish under 4 feet and often windy. We do get some classic days but generally perth waves are pretty average. I have a very large collection of sups so i am lucky enough to be able to compare different boards in different conditions.

The 9.2 and 9.6 are very similar in shape. the 9.6 is a half inch wider and obviously 4 inches longer. the bottom shape appears identical and they are both really lightweight well constructed boards.



the 9.6 is on the left.




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The 9.6 tail is fractionally wider the 9.6 is on the bottom




substantially more volume up front




Other than the increase in size that comes from stretching the 9.2 by 4 inches to 9.6 and increasing general width by .5 of an inch the board shapes are identical. Both boards are quick, stable and easy to turn. The 9.2 feels a little looser than the 9.6 but not by much. both boards take off easily with the 9.6 extra volume allowing it to catch almost anything. both have enough rocker in the nose to ensure that steepish take offs are makeable. both boards are very responsive to the back foot, and when i plant 106 kg over the back fin, both boards will turn easily and quickly, moving forward the 9.6 can be nose ridden but i cant do that on hte 9.2. The 9.6 is also a much better paddling board than the 9.2 and has substantially more glide. This is surprising given that the size difference is not all that great. My young cousin who is 84 kg has ridden both boards and he loves the 9.2. He finds it much more difficult to turn the 9.6. he is a beginner and surfs further forward on the board than i do. He still manages to turn the 9.2 from this posiiton but cant turn the 9.6.

I find now that i surf my 9.6 allwave almost exclusively. the extra length and volume in the nose plus the extra width makes a marked difference in stability. On an onshore day i may fall off the 9.6 2 or three times in the chop, on th 9.2 it will be 8 or 9 times. Given my weight and the ability of the 9.6 to be surfed loose and fast if you stand over the fins i find almost no surfing advantage in dropping down to the 9.2. Im sure a better surfer would find the 9.2 better, but at my moderate skill level the loss of stability and paddling power of the 9.2 are not countered by any marked improvement in its surfing ability. However if you are under 100 kg, the 9.6 will probably be too big and this is where the 9.2 will become a better board. I have also found that in the steep beach break conditions around mandurah, the 9.6 with its extra paddling power means i can catch these waves a little earlier than on the 9.2 and be down the face and making a bottom turn before the wave throws over, on the 9.2 its always a slightly later take off on close out beach breaks. Build quality on both boards is very good. For relatively light boards they can take a pounding. In 6 months at secret harbour last year i snapped 2 naish manas. So far in the same waves the fanatics have remained unscathed in spite of some rather entertaining wipeouts.

A lot of guys suggest going shorter on these forums and i reckon if youre a gun surfer thats not a bad idea. However in my experience with the allwaves, i would suggest that anyone around or over the 100 kg mark stick with the 9.6. Unless youre an absolute superstar you wont gain much,by going shorter, and you will lose a fair amount of stability and paddling power. Currently my smallest board is an 8.10 starboard widepoint. Its a great board and fun to surf in glassy small to moderate conditions. I still find though that i am always drawn back to the 9.6 allwave. its stability and surfability are the best overall compromise i have come across in the world of sup. And at under 10 feet its still small enough to handle lightweight and fits in the back of my car.










Southwesterly
112 posts
31 Mar 2012 12:01AM
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That's a great review and it's the reason I read these forums. I would love to see more of these type of posts. You can't get this information anywhere else.
Thanks sameh.

standupper
387 posts
31 Mar 2012 4:01AM
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Nice one sameh. Great info cheers

supthecreek
2616 posts
31 Mar 2012 6:11AM
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Thank you sameh,
you have far exceeded my request!
I feel that was the best review I have seen on any board.
It really helps to hear in depth and honest conversations
about interesting boards that are new to the market.
The pictures and size comps are just what I was looking for.
Numbers are great on paper, but hard to parse if you can't
see the boards side by side.
I particularly liked your take on how each size fit with your ability.

I think breezers everywhere will see the need for exactly this
kind of review, and consider posting their own.

Peace
Rick

caltrano
VIC, 87 posts
31 Mar 2012 11:03AM
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Likewise a great review of the boards and great to hear of your experiences - at 104 kg and a moderate SUPer I found the review spot on and a great read.
Thx very much for taking the time to write the review
Andrew

TheGoodDr
SA, 216 posts
31 Mar 2012 2:18PM
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Great post sameh.
Impartial info and full explanation of expectations vs. ability, and where the boards are used.

I think you could make one improvement.............a full review on the 200 series

fester
WA, 349 posts
1 Apr 2012 9:39PM
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Great review Sameh
I tried the 9'2" last wk end & was very impressed.
But at 160lts I think the 8'10" 148lts would suit my 82kg.
Have you tried one & do you think it would be slightly less glide & better in the waves ?

Leroy13
VIC, 1174 posts
15 Apr 2012 9:36PM
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I loved the stability of the 9'6" but it was too similar to my PSH Hull paddler so I went with 9'2" (purchased on Friday and demoed for two days prior). At 100 kg I found it a little less corky and although minimally less stable is exponentially more manouverable. there's only around 12 litres difference but the smaller dimensions means the board fits into places on a wave that the 9'6" doesn't ( as I said in another post I even got a complement from a shortboarder which seemed to be sincere!!!) I am however running a 7 inch centre fin pushed forward as opposed to the standard centre that it comes with. Give the 9'2" a go if you can, they take a a lttle getting used to, but if you give it a chance you might be very pleasantly surprised. By the way at 160 litres it paddles really well but dependant on weight you may need to give an extra stroke to make sure you're into the wave. They are all a great range of factory made boards, light and bullet proof. Thanks Wazza at RPS!![:D]

viatormundi
92 posts
30 Apr 2012 4:49AM
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fester said...

Great review Sameh
I tried the 9'2" last wk end & was very impressed.
But at 160lts I think the 8'10" 148lts would suit my 82kg.
Have you tried one & do you think it would be slightly less glide & better in the waves ?

I am also curious about the 8'10. Anybody tried it?

Slab
1101 posts
13 May 2012 6:44AM
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Wish more people would take the time to review boards in this way....brilliant!



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