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A funny message from Dave Kalama!

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Created by Simondo > 9 months ago, 4 Feb 2011
Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
4 Feb 2011 2:33PM
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Not sure if it posted here yet.

Closing sentences are GOLD!

www.davidkalama.com/2011/02/01/who-cares/

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
4 Feb 2011 3:29PM
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It's a strange article and I wouldn't post this on the Zone for fear of putting Pono Bill into a tizz but do you get the impression that Dave Kalama is really saying:

Nobody deserves all the glory but if anyone does, it's Laird... and me!

And while that is almost certainly true, it just comes across as oddly self serving to start out denying that anyone should get credit, then claiming credit.

B Chambers
114 posts
4 Feb 2011 1:20PM
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave is spot on... There are people making way to much of this, &x22s;I'm the first or because of me we have this or that...&x22s; All BS that don't mean nothing... I been around for a while and I came up with some things that people enjoy... WHO CARES? Really?!! Who really cares? Just toys for us to play with... Well said Dave!!!

Here's my latest testing of some toys... Make me special??? Nope... Just a toy maker trying to have fun and that's about it... It all comes down to us all having fun... Period...

Dazza65
QLD, 389 posts
4 Feb 2011 4:00PM
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B Chambers said...

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave is spot on... There are people making way to much of this, &x22s;I'm the first or because of me we have this or that...&x22s; All BS that don't mean nothing... I been around for a while and I came up with some things that people enjoy... WHO CARES? Really?!! Who really cares? Just toys for us to play with... Well said Dave!!!

Here's my latest testing of some toys... Make me special??? Nope... Just a toy maker trying to have fun and that's about it... It all comes down to us all having fun... Period...


Great pics! Great waves! and Great tunes!, thanks for sharing...thats what its all about!

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
4 Feb 2011 7:53PM
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This article on "Tempo" was very benificial for me actually.

www.davidkalama.com/2011/01/29/tempo/

davidgkites
51 posts
4 Feb 2011 8:07PM
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Simondo said...


This article on "Tempo" was very benificial for me actually.

www.davidkalama.com/2011/01/29/tempo/


Found Daves site really useful, props goes to the guy

LaPerouseBay
63 posts
5 Feb 2011 12:41AM
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PTWoody said...

It's a strange article and I wouldn't post this on the Zone for fear of putting Pono Bill into a tizz...


No worries about hiding this from PonoBill. He developed Dave's website and sometimes does some minor spell checking as the articles go up.

One thing is for certain, DK is doing us all a great favor with the stuff he posts.

Blaine too...

byronmaui
448 posts
5 Feb 2011 8:52AM
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Someone other than ponobill might get their panties in a bunch....Good article and this whole sport really is just playing in God's playground and being the first or last really has no merits. It's all about having fun and being able to enjoy it while we can. Got get some and have fun.
Aloha

DavidJohn
VIC, 17460 posts
5 Feb 2011 12:09PM
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Hey Blaine.. thanks for the post and vid.. It's a beauty..

DJ

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
5 Feb 2011 12:56PM
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I was the first to stand up on a paddle board. Here's the proof.



Lobes
885 posts
5 Feb 2011 10:06AM
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I really must read Daves blog more often. He has some really useful and interesting stuff in there.

sepirott
NSW, 336 posts
5 Feb 2011 10:16PM
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DK is Surf Royalty. I personally can only look on in awe at what he and his buddies achieve big wave wise. His site is a great help, also it's great to see him starstruck by meeting the legend Gerry Lopez, one of my heroes of the 70's. Don't know what I'm getting to but all I can say is RESPECT.

Rosscoe
VIC, 505 posts
6 Feb 2011 8:53AM
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Great video/pictures Blaine.....shredding on the new toy.

But your message is even better. It's about getting out there and having fun.

Follow the rules out in the waves and don't be a kook in that sense of the word, but otherwise, it is all really about getting your stoke in a wide range of conditions and regardless of what level you are at. I can have (almost) as much fun in knee high soft waves as in solid overhead conditions.

There have been a few (in my view) misguided ravings on this forum over recent days, but Blaine sums it up for me.

cheers

PonoBill
87 posts
7 Feb 2011 2:28PM
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PTWoody said...

It's a strange article and I wouldn't post this on the Zone for fear of putting Pono Bill into a tizz but do you get the impression that Dave Kalama is really saying:

Nobody deserves all the glory but if anyone does, it's Laird... and me!

And while that is almost certainly true, it just comes across as oddly self serving to start out denying that anyone should get credit, then claiming credit.


I kind of wondered what people would think of this article. I do a little spell checking and grammar stuff on his posts, but he rarely asks what I think about them, but he did with this one because he wasn't sure he was getting the message across. What he was really trying to say was just what the title conveys--who cares. He really simply doesn't, and he's really kind of puzzled that some people seem to.

And what makes you guys think I don't read Seabreeze. Sheesh. Takes a lot more that that to get my panties in a knot, especially since I never wear skivvies.

byronmaui
448 posts
7 Feb 2011 2:33PM
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Pono I knew you wore briefs so you wouldn't be able to get panties in a knot...

Nice article either way.

Aloha

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
7 Feb 2011 9:02PM
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Daves site is great , and geeez nice waves for testing some boards out Blane.Powerfull surfing i love it , big carving turns , dogman style.The pics and vids i have seen of Dave K looks like his style too.Great to watch.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
8 Feb 2011 12:24AM
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PonoBill said...

PTWoody said...

It's a strange article and I wouldn't post this on the Zone for fear of putting Pono Bill into a tizz but do you get the impression that Dave Kalama is really saying:

Nobody deserves all the glory but if anyone does, it's Laird... and me!

And while that is almost certainly true, it just comes across as oddly self serving to start out denying that anyone should get credit, then claiming credit.


I kind of wondered what people would think of this article. I do a little spell checking and grammar stuff on his posts, but he rarely asks what I think about them, but he did with this one because he wasn't sure he was getting the message across. What he was really trying to say was just what the title conveys--who cares. He really simply doesn't, and he's really kind of puzzled that some people seem to.

And what makes you guys think I don't read Seabreeze. Sheesh. Takes a lot more that that to get my panties in a knot, especially since I never wear skivvies.


Bill, I do appreciate Dave's blog and have nothing but respect for him. I just didn't get where he was coming from on this one. Maybe it's because I am out of the loop on all this credit jumping. This article was the first that I'd read about any debate over the originators of SUP or anyone claiming credit. So it just seemed like Dave was raising an issue that wasn't really an issue. Like I say, maybe it's because I don't have a clue what's going on over there on the little island (we are on the big island). Certainly, I agree with the last part, that we should all just enjoy ourselves on the water.

PonoBill
87 posts
8 Feb 2011 2:11AM
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PTWoody said...

PonoBill said...

PTWoody said...

It's a strange article and I wouldn't post this on the Zone for fear of putting Pono Bill into a tizz but do you get the impression that Dave Kalama is really saying:

Nobody deserves all the glory but if anyone does, it's Laird... and me!

And while that is almost certainly true, it just comes across as oddly self serving to start out denying that anyone should get credit, then claiming credit.


I kind of wondered what people would think of this article. I do a little spell checking and grammar stuff on his posts, but he rarely asks what I think about them, but he did with this one because he wasn't sure he was getting the message across. What he was really trying to say was just what the title conveys--who cares. He really simply doesn't, and he's really kind of puzzled that some people seem to.

And what makes you guys think I don't read Seabreeze. Sheesh. Takes a lot more that that to get my panties in a knot, especially since I never wear skivvies.


Bill, I do appreciate Dave's blog and have nothing but respect for him. I just didn't get where he was coming from on this one. Maybe it's because I am out of the loop on all this credit jumping. This article was the first that I'd read about any debate over the originators of SUP or anyone claiming credit. So it just seemed like Dave was raising an issue that wasn't really an issue. Like I say, maybe it's because I don't have a clue what's going on over there on the little island (we are on the big island). Certainly, I agree with the last part, that we should all just enjoy ourselves on the water.


I'll ask him what prompted it next time I see him. It was probably something pretty random, but since he WAS around at the beginning of the popularization of SUP (through certainly not it's invention) he certainly gets asked about it. He definitely has his own way of thinking about things, and everything comes out kind of chain-of-consciousness. But there's not a lot of interpretation required. He's a really good-hearted man with no more ego than required to do the stuff he does.

B Chambers
114 posts
8 Feb 2011 2:16PM
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Not sure what prompted Dave to write his article but lately I have been hearing a couple people in the industry talking a bunch of crap about others regarding who contributed the most to this sport etc... Prompted by a book being written about the history of sup. Maybe he heard some of the BS being tossed around... One of the subjects when I was asked in my interview was WHO did the most for sup... I was told certain individuals were ranting hard about who deserved recognition for this or that AND who was FIRST... Ridiculous...

A while back I wrote something about the SUP Delusional Time Warp... I noticed people would add on a few years to the amount of time the were doing sup. It is like people want to be able to claim they have been doing it longer than each other... As if it makes you more important... Like Dave says... WHO CARES? Are you doing it now? Isn't that all that matters? All we're doing is playing in the water...

Guys... Seriously... The people in this sup industry are building a bunch of fargging toys... We are not finding the cure for cancer or solving any important issues to stop things like War, genocide etc... Toy builders. That's it. All I am is a toy maker. Thanks for the cool words about the slide show I posted...

DavidJohn
VIC, 17460 posts
8 Feb 2011 5:30PM
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B Chambers said...

Not sure what prompted Dave to write his article but lately I have been hearing a couple people in the industry talking a bunch of crap about others regarding who contributed the most to this sport etc... Prompted by a book being written about the history of sup. Maybe he heard some of the BS being tossed around... One of the subjects when I was asked in my interview was WHO did the most for sup... I was told certain individuals were ranting hard about who deserved recognition for this or that AND who was FIRST... Ridiculous...

A while back I wrote something about the SUP Delusional Time Warp... I noticed people would add on a few years to the amount of time the were doing sup. It is like people want to be able to claim they have been doing it longer than each other... As if it makes you more important... Like Dave says... WHO CARES? Are you doing it now? Isn't that all that matters? All we're doing is playing in the water...

Guys... Seriously... The people in this sup industry are building a bunch of fargging toys... We are not finding the cure for cancer or solving any important issues to stop things like War, genocide etc... Toy builders. That's it. All I am is a toy maker. Thanks for the cool words about the slide show I posted...


Well said Blaine.. That SUP Delusional Time Warp thing was pretty funny..

DJ

B Chambers
114 posts
8 Feb 2011 3:08PM
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My favorite quote from Daves article...
"my mortgage company isn't going to say ” Hey your all good, don't worry about the loan, we'll cover it for you”. Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

BTW, the reason I started doing sup at all was a picture of Laird dropping into a solid wave about to pull into a barrel around the end of 2004 in a Longboard magazine... Not anything else... I never watched anyone do it other than a passing glimpse of someone at Waikiki many years earlier. So for me, Laird changed my life with that one wave in that one picture... I went from hating my job to enjoying toy making... Ha!

surf4fun
WA, 1313 posts
8 Feb 2011 3:14PM
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B Chambers said...

Guys... Seriously... The people in this sup industry are building a bunch of fargging toys... We are not finding the cure for cancer or solving any important issues to stop things like War, genocide etc... Toy builders. That's it. All I am is a toy maker.


Does that mean if we are good all year we might get a present from you under the tree santa?

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
8 Feb 2011 6:39PM
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Blane, I think you seriously under value the role of the humble toy maker. They (and you) are far more important than you think. If we all spent more time playing with our toys, there would be no war or genocide, and I might add perhaps controversially, quite a good deal less cancer. Don't want to be getting too deep and meaningful here, but no matter what your spiritual bent, the purpose of life is to be happy. And I'd suggest you're doing a pretty decent job of spreading happiness in providing the toys.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
8 Feb 2011 7:12PM
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Sh!t Woody, you're in brilliant form at the moment !!

To recap;
- more time spent with good toys means;
- no war or genocide
- less cancer
- everyone happy !!

Couldn't agree MORE !! Seems like a few other Green Thumbers agree too!!

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
8 Feb 2011 7:19PM
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B Chambers said...

My favorite quote from Daves article...
"my mortgage company isn't going to say ” Hey your all good, don't worry about the loan, we'll cover it for you”. Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

BTW, the reason I started doing sup at all was a picture of Laird dropping into a solid wave about to pull into a barrel around the end of 2004 in a Longboard magazine... Not anything else... I never watched anyone do it other than a passing glimpse of someone at Waikiki many years earlier. So for me, Laird changed my life with that one wave in that one picture... I went from hating my job to enjoying toy making... Ha!


1st Paragraph - yes I giggled at that too!!
2nd Paragraph - thanks for sharing !! Brilliant!

I noticed that Riviera 404 might have chipped in for a nice new Big Black Truck for Danny Ching !! Happy Days for Danny !!



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