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Forums > Stand Up Paddle General

BOP at the Aust Longboard Open

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Created by Big Sean > 9 months ago, 6 Feb 2013
Big Sean
QLD, 93 posts
6 Feb 2013 9:33AM
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I am looking for more feedback on the BOP at Kingscliff.
I have had strong representation to make this race fully amateur. ie drop the prizemoney altogether and the entry fee to $55 and have one race on the Sunday
We will still have the amateur/novice river race in Cudgen Creek




DarthSUP
WA, 36 posts
6 Feb 2013 10:03AM
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I like it... I think SUPWA state titles should also do something similar rather than a straight leg race. This is proper BOP.

Is this one lap? If so why not remove the 1 km stretch,

and make it 6-5-4-3 then reverse. Might need to push the bouys out a bit and make em 500m. I truly think the landing and take off from the beach is not only challenging/extremely fun but from a spectator point of view there is some gnarly outtakes. Maybe 3 laps.

angie pangi
QLD, 1780 posts
6 Feb 2013 12:38PM
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What you have looks great.

Remember you can't run this course one way and then reverse cos people will run into each other coming back the other way.

Leave it as you have it, perfect.

X angie

DarthSUP
WA, 36 posts
6 Feb 2013 1:52PM
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angie pangi said...

Remember you can't run this course one way and then reverse cos people will run into each other coming back the other way.


Good point...

DarthSUP
WA, 36 posts
6 Feb 2013 1:54PM
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Multiple laps though? I still maintain multiple entries/re-entries adds to the race.

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
6 Feb 2013 3:59PM
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One suggestion; if you put the long leg at the start this means the fast guys will simply paddle well clear of the punters and the race will not be as tight.

If you put the surf section before the long bits it will keep the crowd bunched more for the start at least, as soon as the superhumans see clear water they're gone.

Just a thought.

LynT
NSW, 133 posts
7 Feb 2013 8:22AM
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The Long leg 1500 meters is at the start so the bunching should not be a problem ..

LynT
NSW, 133 posts
7 Feb 2013 8:24AM
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Annnnd the inside return buoys are inside the offshore buoys which will negate any chance of paddlers running into slower (faster ) paddlers

LynT
NSW, 133 posts
7 Feb 2013 8:26AM
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Annnnnd .... The race will be run as a stand alone event .. No other surf events going on while the race is being run ..

Big Sean
QLD, 93 posts
8 Feb 2013 7:39AM
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So far the feedback to Lyn & myself is there is a lot more support for making the BOP
1. an amateur race with a $55 entry fee.
2. loving the course as shown
3. only having 1 BOP race on the Sunday as it is too hard for some paddlers to get away from work on the Thursday.
Lets have any more feedback before Sunday

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
8 Feb 2013 8:39AM
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LynT said...
The Long leg 1500 meters is at the start so the bunching should not be a problem ..


This is opposite to my suggestion, I am sorry if I was not that clear.

What I meant was that having the 1500m at the start will mean that the race will spread out immediately. I would think from a racing and spectator perspective to be bunched in the surf zone would be the carnage that makes this format exciting.

As it is by the time the leaders hit the 2nd can they will be at least 200-300m in front of the regular crowd.

This is ok if this is what you want.

ALSO if you send 'em round the surf first and they get a 1k downwind leg as well as it will most likely be a south wind. This gives you a variety of skills to use for the winner.

That's all. Ask some of the better guys if they prefer to paddle upwind for a k and then do surf bit or surf bit with crowd excitement and then a downwind leg.

Keep the course the same just reverse the direction.

Big Sean
QLD, 93 posts
8 Feb 2013 6:44PM
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OK Crew any other comments or support for this latest course.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
8 Feb 2013 7:28PM
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cmc has some good points. however here is few things to consider in cmc reverse course. paddlers would be paddling up the surf zones which would give some carnage factor with the chance of being caught in side.depends how they read it and how brave they are.

the down side is they would be surfing against the wave which means white water riding in instead of the chance to surf 'down the point'. the more 'surfing' the better imo. the proposed course is right for 'surfing'

i do like the 'cmc' 1 km dw section before turning and heading home.


just saying

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
8 Feb 2013 7:31PM
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laceys lane said...
cmc has some good points. however here is few things to consider in cmc reverse course. paddlers would be paddling up the surf zones which would give some carnage factor with the chance of being caught in side.depends how they read it and how brave they are.

the down side is they would be surfing against the wave which means white water riding in instead of the chance to surf 'down the point'. the more 'surfing' the better imo the proposed course is for 'surfing'

i do like the 'cmc' 1 km dw section before turning and heading home.


just saying


Yep, I thought about that today, there's quite often a sweep there as well from the south making the surf even harder.

Was there a few weeks back though, not much point right now, pretty flat beach.

It was just a suggestion. I'll let others decide the best mode, you could even make the call on the day depending on conditions???

nickmcd41
QLD, 187 posts
8 Feb 2013 8:53PM
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Big Sean

What are the details on the river race? Distance? course layout? Couldn't see anything on the website?

Thanks

surf4fun
WA, 1313 posts
8 Feb 2013 9:58PM
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DarthSUP said...
I like it... I think SUPWA state titles should also do something similar rather than a straight leg race. This is proper BOP.




In an ideal world SUPWA would be running something similar, however there are a number of factors meaning we can't. Yalls is not the ideal location to run a true BOP race, and don't even think about moving down the beach to Rabbits, but until we get a stand alone series we are at the hands of the longboarders and we need to make the most of what we have. Another factor is the timing. There just simply isn't enough time to close down main break and run the BOP through the surf zone considering all the surfing heats that need to be run.

LynT
NSW, 133 posts
9 Feb 2013 6:52AM
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At this time The River Course will Start 50 meters East of the Boat Ramp .... Paddle upstream under the bridges, to the Boat Shed turning Buoy ..... Paddle back to the Start Line ... About 5 ks ... The Start time for both races will be Posted on Sunday ... But both races will AM ( NSW Time ) Both BOP and River Races will be Am Starts ( NSW Time ) Keep the suggestions coming in !!!!!!

nickmcd41
QLD, 187 posts
9 Feb 2013 2:46PM
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One other question mate, From the website:
"SUP Battle of the Paddle will be an open ocean endurance course. SUP Amateur races will be run in the Cudgen Creek. All SUP boards max 12' 6"
All competitors receive a competitors bag including a 1 t-shirt. All GWR participants receive a t-shirt. "


Is the board size limit only for the BOP race or the river race too? The entry details page shows a "SUP Under 14ft Category" which suggests there will be 14 foot and over allowed?


LynT
NSW, 133 posts
9 Feb 2013 4:36PM
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THE BOP IS 12'6" Maximum .... Thats a no changer ...

the start format for the BOP will be posted once we see what the conditions are closer to the event . But at this time it looks like a Le Mans start ...

The River Race will be an in the water Line start ...

Its great to see more people commenting on what you guys and girls want as far as a format goes .. All the comments are considered ....

Big Sean
QLD, 93 posts
9 Feb 2013 4:52PM
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nickmcd41
There is a U14ft Amateur division for the river race to accommodate those that have 14ft boards.
There is no provision in the BOP for U14ft

nickmcd41
QLD, 187 posts
9 Feb 2013 5:30PM
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thanks guys, thought the BOP would be 12'6 max, just the "All SUP boards max 12'6" threw me. Long way to drive with the wrong size board..
Look forward to the event. Thanks for the prompt replies.

LynT
NSW, 133 posts
10 Feb 2013 2:21AM
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Full Update and final decisions on Monday ( or Sunday )

LynT
NSW, 133 posts
11 Feb 2013 9:19AM
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FInal Dates Times, Rules and Fees Will be posted on a New Post sometime Tuesday ... This will include Surf and Race Events ..



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