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Bali surf and other topic

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Created by cenmarc > 9 months ago, 9 Apr 2012
cenmarc
4 posts
9 Apr 2012 11:22PM
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Hi all
I just returned from a Bali holiday (the first return since the mid 90s and while I didnt surf this time as it was just a family holiday ,it was a fabulous holiday. But in some ways I was disappointed in that Bali has some major issues which I will come to later. Surprisingly I saw no SUPers out at Ulus when the outside break seemed perfect for it. The surf was very good for the duration i was there with easter friday as big as I have seen it at Kuta with waves breaking half a km out then reforming at the shore break. The planes landing at the groyne seemed to be landing in the sea at times with the swell hiding the rocks. Mind you it had been up to 10m down in Margaret River prior to that so its understandable. Needless to say the beaches were closed to swimmers and not many were attempting to surf.

The offshore sewerage outlet must be located in the outside breaker line and raw sewerage was washing up on Kuta and Legian beach in a toxic brown scum.
Besides that, plastics litter the beach and it is not difficult to work out where it is originating. A drive to Ulus will show you that every village is dumping its waste in the gully and creeks next to the houses. This is the only spare land available and when a torrential downpour occurs into the ocean it goes.. As tourists we have contributed to that in that the affluence created by tourism extends to the villages but the education doesnt.

Global warming is having its effect with rising sea's leaving the the beachfront roads covered in huge quantities of sand, something I had never seen before.

Now to the good news.
You can get SUP board bags made there for $25 for the stretch cloth type, $60 for single protection layer quality covers and $80 for double layer protection. The shop is Next Generation Board Bags in Jalan Benesari. I was impressed but found it too late, they want about 3 days to knock up a bag.
email; nextgenerationboardbag@yahoo.com - guys name is Edy.
Also we used a very reliable driver while we were there and his name is Putu (1st Born)
phone +6281337345686 if u have global roaming. $30 for round trip to the safari park roughly 5hrs driving and waiting. Most probably could have got it cheaper but the car was near new and everything worked and hes is very easy to deal with.
If you plan on shopping there for the usual clothes, saris, trinkets and much more dont buy on the street. Go to Krishna which is a bit like a big W but owned by a balinese, there are two of them one near the airport and one the main road to denpassar.. Stuff is so cheap and its just one stop and you have it all. Not many westerners know about it yet. The missus will love it and can spend hours there while u surf and u wont go broke..
Otherwise it was a great holiday with all the right ingredients for success.
Cheers Mike





sparki
WA, 410 posts
9 Apr 2012 11:38PM
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only two pics?? with all that info on kuta, my mind was going nuts just trying to imagine it!

JonesySUP
QLD, 872 posts
10 Apr 2012 8:47AM
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Cheers for that.

Kakkerlak
WA, 174 posts
10 Apr 2012 4:42PM
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Spend the last week of March in Sanur on the eat coast. Surfed Supped every day. Every morning was glassy and there were waves every day. Some days overhead. Janke and his crew were great and had my wife Sup surfing from day one. Must be one of the the greatest Supping locations in the world. Got lots of good info on Seabreeze to plan this trip. On the down side, also noted lots of marine pollution even on the eastern side and was wondering about the water quality at times. Keen to hear of other places on Bali or some off the other Islands for the next trip.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
10 Apr 2012 5:26PM
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Mate and son just returned the other day who have been going and surfing all over the Bali for years,both very ill at the moment,he blamed the surf thay had at the river mouth at Canggu As a prone surfer nothing worse than paddling around and the junk that your hands touch is disgusting.If any of you log into Baliwaves a couple of days ago on a good swell the junk that was in the wall of the wave

Scotty88
4214 posts
10 Apr 2012 5:54PM
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62mac said...

Mate and son just returned the other day who have been going and surfing all over the Bali for years,both very ill at the moment,he blamed the surf thay had at the river mouth at Canggu As a prone surfer nothing worse than paddling around and the junk that your hands touch is disgusting.If any of you log into Baliwaves a couple of days ago on a good swell the junk that was in the wall of the wave


There's another reason to take up Sup mac.

MickMc
VIC, 454 posts
10 Apr 2012 8:48PM
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So, Bali aint what it used to be, but we all know that. I've been going there since the late 70s and I won't be going back in hurry after my last visit in 2011, although I love the Balinese people and Indonesian food is the best! The water is filthy and they don't have the sewerage system in place to cater for the thousands of tourists. I wouldn't swim in it.
However, the most dangerous thing to do in Bali is ride a motor bike.
Here are a few statistics for you
The head of the emergency department at Sanglah Hospital, Dr Kresna Wibawa, said his unit treats up to 300 people every day and around half are traffic accident victims – mostly motor cycle riders or passengers.
Around 80% of the 54,000 traffic casualties treated by the hospital last year involved head injuries. Of those who suffered head trauma:
• 15.7% were not wearing a helmet
• Around 1-in-4 died from their injuries
“One of the main causes of head injuries is the number of motorcyclists either failing to wear a helmet, or using a helmet that fails to meet standards," Dr Wibawa said.
Most of last year's traffic accident victims were aged between 16 and 25.
Beside the many head injuries, drivers and riders were left with broken bones and long-term disabilities.
My advice? Take a cab. They're cheap and you might get there in one piece. On another note, if you ride with out a helmet, drunk or without a licence (as most people over there do) you will not get any insurance to cover the coffin home.
Hey that was pretty heavy wasn't it?

DirectX
WA, 240 posts
10 Apr 2012 6:52PM
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Watch out surfing at Ulu's these days for pissed off locals if you're on a SUP. I've heard some nasty stories in the last couple of weeks about locals and shortboarders trying to mark their territory with fists...

Sanur is still top notch, especially in front of Sanur Beach hotel at the ship wreck and also the river mouth is a nice right hander, solid and fast. Water quality was ok on low tide but high tide seemed to bring all the mess back in.

As for surfing kuta and airport left/rights don't bother as cenmar says the water is putrid...
A few shots from Sanur in Jan this year, perfect SUP conditions and no one out all day but me, yeeeow! Heading back in 2 months , cant wait...

Rob










Warddy
QLD, 77 posts
10 Apr 2012 9:13PM
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The last time I was in Bali after doing a Lombok boat trip I asked my driverto take me to Canggu that afternoon just to have a look as I knew the waves would of been crap because of the winds but just to suss the place out , it was empty because of the waves except for old mate with his septic truck emptying his load into the sea, I will never go back to Bali as its now a crowded dung heap, on the trip to Deserts in Lombok apart from the locals burning rubbish and letting the grass burn away unhindered they dynamited the reef one night as we were awoke by the naval authorities checking if it was us, so with dead reefs, I could only shake my head when we were leaving to see the amount of rubbish and **** in the water travelling in the currents of the Lombok straight and we know where that all eventually ends up.
Dont think the Western world can be blamed anymore for producing the plastic and other materials which the locals use, the majority of third worlders are just too lazy to try and learn how to treat the planet and get off there arses to clean up instead of just sitting around staring into space smoking cigarettes, shudder to think what it will be like in another 50 years

Scotty88
4214 posts
10 Apr 2012 7:17PM
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Warddy said...

The last time I was in Bali after doing a Lombok boat trip I asked my driverto take me to Canggu that afternoon just to have a look as I knew the waves would of been crap because of the winds but just to suss the place out , it was empty because of the waves except for old mate with his septic truck emptying his load into the sea, I will never go back to Bali as its now a crowded dung heap, on the trip to Deserts in Lombok apart from the locals burning rubbish and letting the grass burn away unhindered they dynamited the reef one night as we were awoke by the naval authorities checking if it was us, so with dead reefs, I could only shake my head when we were leaving to see the amount of rubbish and **** in the water travelling in the currents of the Lombok straight and we know where that all eventually ends up.
Dont think the Western world can be blamed anymore for producing the plastic and other materials which the locals use, the majority of third worlders are just too lazy to try and learn how to treat the planet and get off there arses to clean up instead of just sitting around staring into space smoking cigarettes, shudder to think what it will be like in another 50 years


Stick to Fiji Wardy. After my first trip there last August, I will always put Fiji 1st over Indo. I went to Bali in 88, 95, 98 and twice in 99 and just prefer Fiji for so many reasons.

DirectX
WA, 240 posts
10 Apr 2012 7:19PM
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Scotty88 said...

Warddy said...

The last time I was in Bali after doing a Lombok boat trip I asked my driverto take me to Canggu that afternoon just to have a look as I knew the waves would of been crap because of the winds but just to suss the place out , it was empty because of the waves except for old mate with his septic truck emptying his load into the sea, I will never go back to Bali as its now a crowded dung heap, on the trip to Deserts in Lombok apart from the locals burning rubbish and letting the grass burn away unhindered they dynamited the reef one night as we were awoke by the naval authorities checking if it was us, so with dead reefs, I could only shake my head when we were leaving to see the amount of rubbish and **** in the water travelling in the currents of the Lombok straight and we know where that all eventually ends up.
Dont think the Western world can be blamed anymore for producing the plastic and other materials which the locals use, the majority of third worlders are just too lazy to try and learn how to treat the planet and get off there arses to clean up instead of just sitting around staring into space smoking cigarettes, shudder to think what it will be like in another 50 years


Stick to Fiji Wardy. After my first trip there last August, I will always put Fiji 1st over Indo. I went to Bali in 88, 95, 98 and twice in 99 and just prefer Fiji for so many reasons.


Hard not to keep on going to Bali when its as low as $300 return ex Perth! Would love to go to Fiji, just wrong side of the continent :(

Rob

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
10 Apr 2012 7:27PM
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Warddy said...

The last time I was in Bali after doing a Lombok boat trip I asked my driverto take me to Canggu that afternoon just to have a look as I knew the waves would of been crap because of the winds but just to suss the place out , it was empty because of the waves except for old mate with his septic truck emptying his load into the sea, I will never go back to Bali as its now a crowded dung heap, on the trip to Deserts in Lombok apart from the locals burning rubbish and letting the grass burn away unhindered they dynamited the reef one night as we were awoke by the naval authorities checking if it was us, so with dead reefs, I could only shake my head when we were leaving to see the amount of rubbish and **** in the water travelling in the currents of the Lombok straight and we know where that all eventually ends up.
Dont think the Western world can be blamed anymore for producing the plastic and other materials which the locals use, the majority of third worlders are just too lazy to try and learn how to treat the planet and get off there arses to clean up instead of just sitting around staring into space smoking cigarettes, shudder to think what it will be like in another 50 years


Fair enough good post I head there for work somethings 3 or 4 times per year and the less you know the better imoStill love the place tho

kitesurfbali
WA, 531 posts
11 Apr 2012 6:37PM
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Hello friends,
first let me thank everyone for the nice words.
Yes water in Bali is not as clean as it use to be but is to be expected with 4 millions people and so many tourist. BUT you should know that most of the hotels and houses are already connected to a proper sewage system.
Of course the worst areas are close to river mouth where water come down all the way from small villages.

Water in the Bukit is still pretty clean as most of the outside reef.
The beach break are quite bad... And specially after big rain or huge swell.
Sanur is quite clean on the reef, inside the lagoon really depend on the quantity of rain and the tide!
I did not get too many complains (actually none that I can remember) for hear infections and there are quite a number of us Surfing & SUPing here.
The truck in Canggu at Tugu is been there for long time but it doesn't empty the safety tank... It collect sea water for the numerous fish restaurant!!!!
I checked myself long time ago as I kite and surf there...
The river coming out in Canggu are still very polluted!

Not sure about the ULU problems! Haven't heard of anything...
I had clients/friends that SUP there in the past and they were OK but I know for sure that they were very respectful and stay mostly up the reef far from the shortboarders.
Bye Jankie

weiry
QLD, 5396 posts
11 Apr 2012 9:12PM
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WOW hassling in surf spots thats new not, i saw hassling at ulus in 89.
very sad to here about the pollution but hey in 89 i saw people SH!Tting in the drains and 200m down the road saw two bathing in the same drain,
and for Kuta well its a hole, outside Kuta and Denpasar i loved it.
flame away thats my 2 cents.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
11 Apr 2012 7:52PM
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weiry said...
Kuta well its a hole, outside Kuta and Denpasar i loved it.
flame away thats my 2 cents.


No need for the flames its true and Jankie see you next month mate keep it real.

Mottman29
WA, 80 posts
11 Apr 2012 8:27PM
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I'm with Scotty,
Fiji is the go for water quality... and as a motivator - the threat of dehydration/vomitting/dairrhoea etc etc seals the deal for me from getting in the water there (even though I like Canggu and the quieter areas of Bali).

And as some wise Breezer says "if you want to Play you have to Pay" (was that DJ?).



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