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C4 Vortice explained why it has no rudder system

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Created by boylos > 9 months ago, 10 Sep 2009
boylos
NSW, 769 posts
10 Sep 2009 9:19PM
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I 've come accross this video from Todd Bradley explaining why the Vortice doesn't come with a rudder system ,it appears that C4 have designed this board so it's shape doesn't need one.

Check it out on



I'd be interested to here from other breezers after hereing what Todd Bradley has said on this video if they perfer the rudder system or not?

Cheers

Boylos

P.s I really ,really like this board!!!!!!

petemc
VIC, 352 posts
10 Sep 2009 9:42PM
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link didn't appear, anyone else have that problem?

OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
10 Sep 2009 9:58PM
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I cant see it either!

Phill

boylos
NSW, 769 posts
10 Sep 2009 10:38PM
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petemc said...

link didn't appear, anyone else have that problem?


Yeh not sure why this happen , I'll try it again.



Cheers

Boylos

boylos
NSW, 769 posts
10 Sep 2009 10:43PM
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boylos said...

petemc said...

link didn't appear, anyone else have that problem?


Yeh not sure why this happen , I'll try it again.



Cheers

Boylos


Hopefully this works !




Boylos

STNDUP
VIC, 248 posts
10 Sep 2009 10:49PM
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nothing on this end mate.....

boylos
NSW, 769 posts
10 Sep 2009 10:49PM
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boylos said...

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boylos said...

petemc said...

link didn't appear, anyone else have that problem?


Yeh not sure why this happen , I'll try it again.

Ok I must be doing something wrong!

If someone can go to you tube for me and type in C4 Waterman ,it comes up under you tube - C4 Vortice XP 2 .

Much appreciated!

Cheers

Boylos

oliver
3952 posts
10 Sep 2009 9:37PM
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here ya go



I think I saw this ages ago - all that stuff about gears

boylos
NSW, 769 posts
11 Sep 2009 7:59AM
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oliver said...

here ya go



I think I saw this ages ago - all that stuff about gears


Thanks Oliver .

Boylos

OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
11 Sep 2009 8:36AM
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Hey Boylos,

The technology they are using for self centering or working to weather in the vortice with channels has been around for years in vessels, just not applied to SUP.

The use of multistage rocker especially on true longboards or guns around 12ft long works exactly the same way as described here.

If you take any of the Munoz boards (10,11,12ft) for a ride in small surf due to the exagerated rocker they have very very similar so called geared characteristics or variable sweet spot.

I have been chatting to a couple of the custom designers as with my weight an of the rack DW board probably will not suit me.

Its interesting that they dont think there is any advantage in using carbon until you get above the 12.6 class.

I will be interested to see the first of the Outlaw Races in Vicco.

Phill





boylos
NSW, 769 posts
11 Sep 2009 9:26AM
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OG SUP said...

Hey Boylos,

The technology they are using for self centering or working to weather in the vortice with channels has been around for years in vessels, just not applied to SUP.

The use of multistage rocker especially on true longboards or guns around 12ft long works exactly the same way as described here.

If you take any of the Munoz boards (10,11,12ft) for a ride in small surf due to the exagerated rocker they have very very similar so called geared characteristics or variable sweet spot.

I have been chatting to a couple of the custom designers as with my weight an of the rack DW board probably will not suit me.

Its interesting that they dont think there is any advantage in using carbon until you get above the 12.6 class.

I will be interested to see the first of the Outlaw Races in Vicco.

Phill

Cheers Phill , so do you think there's any advantage with the rocker style system in the Vortice compared to a rudder set up like they have on the F16 /Dale Chapman boards?

Are you going in the Outlaw Races ?

I'm sure DJ will be out there somewhere!

Boylos

aussiewahine
QLD, 798 posts
11 Sep 2009 10:32AM
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I love watching this vid on the Vortice.

boylos
NSW, 769 posts
11 Sep 2009 1:49PM
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aussiewahine said...

I love watching this vid on the Vortice.




Great video Sue , some realy nice long rides!


Boylos



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