I don't have any idea and haven't done a DW, but out of interest when your on a runner, is that when you are using the rudder, or do you steer by normal surf stance.
I would have thought it would be difficult to use a rudder while your surfing.
I notice Lacey Lane is going to do an EPIC paddle on a 14 ft board without a rudder. So what is the advantage of a rudder?
Thanks
Shane
IMO the main reason for using a rudder is paddling in side winds.
It 'is' very difficult to use a rudder while surfing.. but it can be done.. (I can't)
DJ
umm, i'm not doing that paddle, at least for now.
Sorry LL, I must be getting my QLD DW's mixed up.
Cheers
Shane
Downwinder's comments are spot on. To stay in and link smaller runners you tend to use the rudder, once it's bigger you're back in surfing stance towards the tail.
I paddled a rudderless board for the past two years and switched to a board with rudder several months ago.
With the rudderless board you definitely have to get the footwork going and whether you are downwind, crosswind or upwind. Initially i thought the rudder would help with crosswind and upwind a lot, but I think it's minimal, compared to where you stand and weight. The rudder has more effect once you are moving on a bump..
Rudders are definately the way to go for anything longer than 10-20km, imo. I would even recommend them for shorter paddles that have cross wind/swells to contend with.
Dale and I are doing this 100km paddle together but we would not consider it without rudder systems. I will have a rudder on my DC14 and he has not yet decided what length board that he will use (maybe 16 or 17) - but it will definately have a rudder system on it.
With the boards Dale is making we are trying to design a shape that will allow us to stay on the rudder as much as possible. We want to minimise the amount of running back and forward as this is an unecessary waste of energy. We think we have the right ingredients in the boards but we still need to test them in decent sized runs.
I remember reading once that Dave Kalama said that what makes him so fast on down-winders is his ability to use the rudder on runners and when others learn to do this he won't have his advantage and others will be just as quick.
DJ
In the short amount of time that I watched Conner Baxter disappear into the distance on his way to winning the Maui to Molokai race I was staggered to see how much of a zig zag course he was taking, looking for and catching every runner possible. The other good guys do the same, get on the runner then go one way or the other to keep the nose of the board out of the trough and keep surfing the walls of the swells.
I enjoyed using the rudder and was thrilled with the opportunities it opens up but when the wind and swell are pretty well behind I think there is nothing more fun than stepping up and down the board on a fixed fin
travis grant is so good at maintaining speed, he is all over the place chasing, it seems like he is on something the whole way.he puts 500m on the rest of our crew in the blink of an eye. amazing to watch
cheers
ps jacko is also very good at too.actually thinking about the coffs race, all the best are all over it.
Dave I am so pleased to hear Connor won the event!
The posts on the forum always seem to be say this guy is a power house etc, well having met Connor at Noosa he is a fly weight to say the least, however he is very savy on what goes on in the ocean.
Its not always the power house that will come first.
The board does have a lot to do with it but skill and training are still the drivers in racing imho.
Dave which one of the starboards was Connor riding.
Phill
I recon it will be between Connor & Ikolu Kalama to take out first & second for this years Molokai Race with Dave kalama to take out the over 40's & Jack Gillan over 50's anyone one up for a wager (carton of Melbourne Bitter Stubbies).
I'm stoked for Mark Raaphorts that other companies buy his SIC boards & put there own logos on them (too funny)
Did Connor race in the Open Category on the F14 or was it 14ft class?
The reason I ask is there seems to be so many categories and different ideas on what the future holds.
It would be nice to have some stability in what is going on with race classes.
Phill.
Check out this new DW vid.. I hope we see Kai Lenny up against Conner Baxter in the upcoming Maliko race.
It's funny to see Robby doing a down-winder after telling me that he doesn't get them.. and would rather go kiting/windsurfing if there's any wind.
I'm glad we don't have to start our down-winders like this.. Jeeez!..
DJ