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Fins for downwinders

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Created by akhawk > 9 months ago, 24 Dec 2009
akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
24 Dec 2009 10:07AM
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I'm currently using a Starboard 11'2" for downwinders with the standard drake fin that comes with it. Yesterday doing a downwinder in 25knotts and decent swell I found the board often spinning out. Would a larger fin help when doing downwinders? I have a large Jimmy Lewis fin that originally came off an 11+ foot cruiser, would this be a better downwind option for the 11'2"?
These are the 2 fins that I have




DavidJohn
VIC, 17460 posts
24 Dec 2009 1:24PM
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I'm not sure that 'spinning out' is the right words.

I reckon try the big fin.

DJ

akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
24 Dec 2009 10:29AM
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DavidJohn said...

I'm not sure that 'spinning out' is the right words.

I reckon try the big fin.

DJ


Spinning out is probably not the right way to describe it, but more like losing control in the rougher conditions.
Spinning out was the problem I always encountered in my windsurfing days.

JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
24 Dec 2009 1:35PM
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I'd try the big Jimmy for sure, looks just about perfect. It will make the board quite a bit more stable too (not that you really need that with the 11'2 Starboard!)

akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
24 Dec 2009 10:52AM
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JonathanC said...

I'd try the big Jimmy for sure, looks just about perfect. It will make the board quite a bit more stable too (not that you really need that with the 11'2 Starboard!)


All the extra stability helps, especially when it starts to get a bit rougher, and you start getting tired and lose concentration, then the wheels start to fall off a bit!!

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
24 Dec 2009 10:55AM
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Sorry I replied to the other thread

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
24 Dec 2009 11:15AM
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The Drake wave 22 compared to the Drake SUP 9"
Your welcome to come grab it if you like Hawkie




SF66
WA, 92 posts
24 Dec 2009 12:27PM
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akhawk said...

DavidJohn said...

I'm not sure that 'spinning out' is the right words.

I reckon try the big fin.

DJ


Spinning out is probably not the right way to describe it, but more like losing control in the rougher conditions.
Spinning out was the problem I always encountered in my windsurfing days.


Hey Adam

I'm going to try a much bigger fin as well.

That spinning out thing, my board was nose diving, rail grabing, tail sliding left then right and the tail of board and fin lifting out.

Oh yeah and definately going to get longer tiedown straps as a spare.


JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
24 Dec 2009 4:36PM
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A lot of that nose diving rail grabbing all over the place thing is technique related. Down-winders are a completely different experience in terms of balance, moving around on the board and reading the water state, what at first seems like almost impossible conditions will become the ones you are hanging out for. The way to improve is just do more of them, I've been doing them for about 18 months and have probably done more than 100 down-winders and I reckon I learn something every time. I'm sure the fact that it is so challenging and at times pretty hairy is what makes it so much fun.

It's also bloody good exercise, we did two in a row a couple of weeks ago and I wore my heart rate monitor, total time on the water was 2 hours 39 and my average heart rate was 137 and peak of 168 (169 is my recommended 220 - age heart rate, but that was a fluke!). You paddle your guts out but you don't notice because you are having so much fun.

OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
24 Dec 2009 5:40PM
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This fluid foils fin works really well in the PSH Gun for down winders.

9.5 inch depth 5.5 inch base pivots well to turn board around cones etc





Phill

pete joseph
NSW, 73 posts
24 Dec 2009 7:01PM
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Alot of "spinning out" in downwinders is also from when the nose drops down a run the tail and fin lift out of the water losing your track. So a little more experience will help but it's hard to combat.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
24 Dec 2009 7:27PM
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fluid foils do a nose rider fin,, big tip area and cut off straightish, all so a salty nose rider by futures. from my early understandings, when that nose drops, the middle rails are exposed and the tail lifts- that the time to hit it



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