I think the Melbourne protesters will be pretty safe from sharks - venue State Library at the top of the Melbourne CBD.
Probably being marketed at the North Fitzroy greenie-hippie community, none of whom would know where the beach is anyway.
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Haha! Nice one helmy! Those damn greenies know nothing;)
Maybe just miss informed or choose to believe the miss informed.
Either way I guess "those damn greenies know nothing"
Lets kill everything in the ocean that poses a threat to us
If it wasn't for those greenies , or those just interested in preserving the lonely little rock we live on , you wouldn't have unpolluted seas to surf in or unspoilt forests to visit , or fish to eat. Funny how people get upset about things when it threatens their own self interest. If your to scared to enter the sea because their might be sharks in it , choose another pastime.
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Lets kill everything in the ocean that poses a threat to usIf it wasn't for those greenies , or those just interested in preserving the lonely little rock we live on , you wouldn't have unpolluted seas to surf in or unspoilt forests to visit , or fish to eat. Funny how people get upset about things when it threatens their own self interest. If your to scared to enter the sea because their might be sharks in it , choose another pastime.
This is one of the only times I agree with you teatree. See you in the morning
i'm not big on the drum lines, but i think something has to be done. i'm hoping they can further develop electrical repellent type devices for in the water or person use. people safe and sharks are safe would be the ultimate
definitely not one for the netting
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I think the Melbourne protesters will be pretty safe from sharks - venue State Library at the top of the Melbourne CBD.
Probably being marketed at the North Fitzroy greenie-hippie community, none of whom would know where the beach is anyway.
But the one at Fisho's in Torquay is going to clash with the Great Ocean Paddle race. They better not disrupt the finish of the event. Ski, OC1, Prone and SUP competitors coming off a 26km run in mid 30s temperatures don't tend to be the most patient and understanding people.
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But the one at Fisho's in Torquay is going to clash with the Great Ocean Paddle race. They better not disrupt the finish of the event. Ski, OC1, Prone and SUP competitors coming off a 26km run in mid 30s temperatures don't tend to be the most patient and understanding people.
Use them as shark bait?
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But the one at Fisho's in Torquay is going to clash with the Great Ocean Paddle race. They better not disrupt the finish of the event. Ski, OC1, Prone and SUP competitors coming off a 26km run in mid 30s temperatures don't tend to be the most patient and understanding people.
Use them as shark bait?
Well there was a big fish down at Jan Juc last weekend wanting to play with the short boarders.
Don't tell me, let me guess...
Um...
The shortboarders didn't want to play with the fish either?
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Don't tell me, let me guess...
Um...
The shortboarders didn't want to play with the fish either?
All he did was nudge a board and they cleared the beach. Vicco short boarders are soft as. The WA crew don't even paddle in until someone's lost a limb. 
Can I just say something?
A boy was taken by a croc up north. Why didn't Greenpeece or other hippy freaks jump up and down when authorities went out and shot a number of crocs?
Also a girl was attacked by 2 dogs a few weeks ago and the dogs were put down. The kid was visiting and playing in the dogs backyard.
Are those against controlling shark numbers vegetarians? Maybe stop going fishing and taking the sharks food? Stop eating fish with your chips.
But maybe now stop talking crap and having double standards?
Just my thoughts
Vego indeed greenroom, and I am against many of these other things you point out and much more. Why do people assume that others who don't support the drum lines don't jump up and down about other issues?
I think its best not to assume things.
Why don,t you guys set your sights on the East Coast? Or are you suggesting they remove their lines and nets as well?
I'm sick of this crap on this forum.
Take it somewhere else-PLEASE.
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Can I just say something?
A boy was taken by a croc up north. Why didn't Greenpeece or other hippy freaks jump up and down when authorities went out and shot a number of crocs?
Also a girl was attacked by 2 dogs a few weeks ago and the dogs were put down. The kid was visiting and playing in the dogs backyard.
Are those against controlling shark numbers vegetarians? Maybe stop going fishing and taking the sharks food? Stop eating fish with your chips.
But maybe now stop talking crap and having double standards?
Just my thoughts
Did the government then go out and kill every dog and croc in the state?
My main issue is that there doesn't appear to be any defined process behind what they are doing apart from catching and killing.
They aren't even taking samples that could be used for research. Or even correctly identifying the sharks they kill. Just dumping the body. An universities every where can't get enough samples or funding to collect themselves.
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Why don,t you guys set your sights on the East Coast? Or are you suggesting they remove their lines and nets as well?
I'm sick of this crap on this forum.
Take it somewhere else-PLEASE.
You've only posted twice this year and both times in response to a shark discussion. You're not a regular but you're deciding what can be discussed on a stand up paddle forum. Interesting.
I always try to look at everything from both sides. It is interesting to read everyone's opinions.
I can understand people wanting to do whatever they can to make life safer for them and there loved ones.
I can also understand people's fear of sharks. It is a tragedy when somebody is killed or injured by a shark and scary!!
The chances of a BEACH GOER getting attacked is 1 in 11.5 million........ Has anyone thought about that?
I get that a beach goer in w.a would be slightly increased. The ocean is sooooooo much safer than when we drive/ train/ walk to work or pretty much do anything on land yet it is convenient for us to drive so we take the risk of a crash, even with our families in the car.
There are many examples of things been much more dangerous, toilets, the flu, lightning etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
Yet it is somehow inconvenient to have a 1 in let's say 9 million in w.a chance of getting attacked so we decide to start killing them, where has the common sense gone!!!
The human race should not be playing god or whateva u believe in :)
Start culling drug dealers, bottle shops, fast food outlets because these are killing us!!!!
If you love playing in the ocean it's time to love the ocean and whateva comes with it, if you don't want to take the 'risk' then definately don't drive to beach or walk on the road, best just leave it to the rest of us I think.
Enjoy :)
Yes greeny I'm a vego but I've never thought of myself as a 'hippie freak' i also reckon greenpeace do some pretty valuable work.
Don't worry guys Greenroom is just a hippy in denial. He has dreads and lives in Margs, how much happier can you get!
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I always try to look at everything from both sides. It is interesting to read everyone's opinions.
I can understand people wanting to do whatever they can to make life safer for them and there loved ones.
I can also understand people's fear of sharks. It is a tragedy when somebody is killed or injured by a shark and scary!!
The chances of a BEACH GOER getting attacked is 1 in 11.5 million........ Has anyone thought about that?
I get that a beach goer in w.a would be slightly increased. The ocean is sooooooo much safer than when we drive/ train/ walk to work or pretty much do anything on land yet it is convenient for us to drive so we take the risk of a crash, even with our families in the car.
There are many examples of things been much more dangerous, toilets, the flu, lightning etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
Yet it is somehow inconvenient to have a 1 in let's say 9 million in w.a chance of getting attacked so we decide to start killing them, where has the common sense gone!!!
The human race should not be playing god or whateva u believe in :)
Start culling drug dealers, bottle shops, fast food outlets because these are killing us!!!!
If you love playing in the ocean it's time to love the ocean and whateva comes with it, if you don't want to take the 'risk' then definately don't drive to beach or walk on the road, best just leave it to the rest of us I think.
Enjoy :)
Yes greeny I'm a vego but I've never thought of myself as a 'hippie freak' i also reckon greenpeace do some pretty valuable work.
Very well said man!
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Yet it is somehow inconvenient to have a 1 in let's say 9 million in w.a chance of getting attacked so we decide to start killing them, where has the common sense gone!!!
Yes, where has the common sense gone?
1 in 9 million? Where did you pull those odds from? WA has 2.5 million people not 9 million.
Your statement would be true if a 1/4 of a person had been killed by a shark once?
There are 2.5 million people in WA. 6 people have been killed by sharks in 3 years.
Chance of a person in WA being killed by a shark in the last 3 years = 1 in 415 000
Most people in WA don't go into the Ocean. Lets assume there are 10 000 regular water users in WA (people who use the ocean several times a week).
If you are in this group (as some people on these forums are) then your chance of being killed by a shark in the last 3 years is 1 in 1666.
There were 524 road deaths in WA in the last 3 years. The chance of being killed in a road accident in WA in the last three years is 1 in 4771.
So if one is a regular water user in WA, they are nearly three times more likely to be killed by a shark than in a car accident.
For them, going into the ocean has a higher risk of death than the drive to get to the beach.
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I always try to look at everything from both sides. It is interesting to read everyone's opinions.
I can understand people wanting to do whatever they can to make life safer for them and there loved ones.
I can also understand people's fear of sharks. It is a tragedy when somebody is killed or injured by a shark and scary!!
The chances of a BEACH GOER getting attacked is 1 in 11.5 million........ Has anyone thought about that?
I get that a beach goer in w.a would be slightly increased. The ocean is sooooooo much safer than when we drive/ train/ walk to work or pretty much do anything on land yet it is convenient for us to drive so we take the risk of a crash, even with our families in the car.
There are many examples of things been much more dangerous, toilets, the flu, lightning etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
Yet it is somehow inconvenient to have a 1 in let's say 9 million in w.a chance of getting attacked so we decide to start killing them, where has the common sense gone!!!
The human race should not be playing god or whateva u believe in :)
Start culling drug dealers, bottle shops, fast food outlets because these are killing us!!!!
If you love playing in the ocean it's time to love the ocean and whateva comes with it, if you don't want to take the 'risk' then definately don't drive to beach or walk on the road, best just leave it to the rest of us I think.
Enjoy :)
Yes greeny I'm a vego but I've never thought of myself as a 'hippie freak' i also reckon greenpeace do some pretty valuable work.
You still paddling on the estuary or back on the normal ocean run ?
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Why don,t you guys set your sights on the East Coast? Or are you suggesting they remove their lines and nets as well?
I'm sick of this crap on this forum.
Take it somewhere else-PLEASE.
You've only posted twice this year and both times in response to a shark discussion. You're not a regular but you're deciding what can be discussed on a stand up paddle forum. Interesting.
So, because I'm not a keyboard legend like yourself, I'm not entitled to an opinion?
I would agree that if you do the numbers over the last 3 years the chances would be higher, but that's like taking your average flower sales based on valentines day. The longer the study the more accurate so maybe try since records started, or choose 3 yrs when there where no fatalities and you will have zero chance.
10000 reg beach goers??? Have you been to a metro beach lately!!! That number is ridiculous. I guess you can twist numbers either way. I mean is every human a regular road user?
You are been extremely biased and I'm sure if I went to the other extreme you can get chances much less than 1 in 9 million.
1 in 1666, wow
'mark' choosing to post "I'm sick of this crap" on a public forum that you choose to read?
Then asking to take it elsewhere?
Pure gold!!
'bt' outstanding argument...but allow me to indulge further...
Perhaps those who choose to be active in trying to change that which is wrong headed are the fools?
The wisdom of the ancients suggests:
"Let a man meet a bear robbed of her cubs, rather than a fool in his folly" Pro 17:12
Debating with fools is indeed folly - for they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
DJ
Select to expand quoteMask said..PTWoody said..Mask said..
Why don,t you guys set your sights on the East Coast? Or are you suggesting they remove their lines and nets as well?
I'm sick of this crap on this forum.
Take it somewhere else-PLEASE.
You've only posted twice this year and both times in response to a shark discussion. You're not a regular but you're deciding what can be discussed on a stand up paddle forum. Interesting.
So, because I'm not a keyboard legend like yourself, I'm not entitled to an opinion?
Oh that's rich!
You're grasping at freedom of speech now? You've demanded that people stop discussing something but you want the freedom of your own opinion? Give us a spell.
You are entitled to an opinion, but you're not entitled to deprive others of their opinion. And you're certainly not entitled to tell Marcus what he can and can't talk about on this forum.
Cheers PT!
Like he said everyone is entitled to their opinion. It's not a personal attack on others who agree with drum lines. I can almost bet that everyone of you has a friend that will have a different opinion on things to you.
I'm doin the rotto channel swim in a few weeks in a team with a mate who is very much for the drum lines and posts pro drum line things on his facebook all the time. I don't agree with him obviously but i still think he's a bit of a legend.
I don't think it needs to get personal.
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Cheers PT!
Like he said everyone is entitled to their opinion. It's not a personal attack on others who agree with drum lines. I can almost bet that everyone of you has a friend that will have a different opinion on things to you.
I'm doin the rotto channel swim in a few weeks in a team with a mate who is very much for the drum lines and posts pro drum line things on his facebook all the time. I don't agree with him obviously but i still think he's a bit of a legend.
I don't think it needs to get personal.
As the old saying goes opinions are like arseholes every one has oneDon't worry it will all die down , until shark week on discovery airs again
