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Measuring paddling distance

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Created by PottyMullet > 9 months ago, 21 Jun 2012
PottyMullet
NSW, 92 posts
21 Jun 2012 11:18PM
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This might be old news to you guys but if you want to measure how far you have paddled and you don't have a gadget (GPS or whatever else there called) you can use the following site.

www.mapmyrun.com/routes/create/

My misses was laughing at me saying that it won't measure across water because it's called "mapmyrun" not "mapmypaddle" and you can't walk on water.

I had the last laugh.

Anyone know of any other tools for this?

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
21 Jun 2012 9:38PM
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Thanks that is a good tool

NNSUP
NSW, 1263 posts
21 Jun 2012 11:48PM
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I use the iMapMyRUN app on the iphone. Easily downloaded for free on itunes. I put the iphone in a waterproof pouch and throw the pouch in a camelback. You're able to look at your course, average speed and even elevation (Perfect for those days you're riding big waves on downwinders )
At the end of your paddle you can view the route , save it to your iphone via the app or share it on line.




surf4fun
WA, 1313 posts
21 Jun 2012 9:48PM
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Not sure of the name of it but Greg has a really good one that actually gives you updates as to how fast your are going, how far you have gone and what your heart rate is. Apparently you can set it up so that it updates you every 2,3,5, 10 minutes whatever. You can also preset intervals and rest times etc.

The benefit of it is you dont have to look down at a watch or anything it does all the work for you.

Goochi
WA, 846 posts
21 Jun 2012 10:05PM
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It's an iPhone App - Cyclemeter.

I used to use Strava, but this one is great as I needed a programable timer with alarms.

You can set up your training sessions on a calendar - interval sessions, timed sessions, distance sessions. You press go and put it in your camelbak with head phones on (I'm currently looking for a good set of waterproof headphones - blue tooth would be optimal!)

You set it to get updates every 1minute or whatever and it will tell you your speed, time left on your interval and heart rate (Polar have just brought out a bluetooth tansmitter that pairs with this App). At the end you get a map of your run and statistics on average speed and heartrate, which is graphed along with your total time or distance. Really useful for seeing where your workload increases or falls alway during an interval.

No need to mount a GPS on your board and try to see it - especially during these cold dark mornings we have here at present!

tightlines
WA, 3477 posts
21 Jun 2012 10:20PM
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Sounds similar to the Runkeeper app I use it on my iPhone, does similar stuff to what you listed.
You can preset what info it gives you and how often.
I just put it in a waterproof pouch (aquapac) and hang it around my neck, you can play an itunes playlist that you can hear reasonably well without headphones the music cuts out for every update on speed distance etc.
Your route is overlayed on google maps and can be setup to automatically post to FB, Twitter etc.
Good app.

I did have the aquapac waterproof headphones but one speaker stopped working and I just didn't like having the wire hanging down, bluetooth would be the way to go if you wanted headphones but I find I dont need them.
http://store.aquapac.net/

PottyMullet
NSW, 92 posts
22 Jun 2012 7:25AM
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Thanks guys,

looks like there are some good tools out there but my 1990's Nokia (3120) doesn't support apps but its bombproof.

Also was just curious, does steady state heart rate get up to around 150-160 bpm when paddling for moderate distance?

Coming from a cycling and MTB (xc and endurance racing) background I'm familiar with getting heart rate up for distance but not sure about paddling SUP because i've only been supping for less than 2 weeks now and I find that my core muscles fatigue after a little while of really putting in the effort but I'm guessing that when my core strength improves I will be able to sustain effort for longer. Next time I go for a paddle I will take note of my breathing rate.

Potty

akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
22 Jun 2012 8:01AM
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Goochi said...

It's an iPhone App - Cyclemeter.

I used to use Strava, but this one is great as I needed a programable timer with alarms.

You can set up your training sessions on a calendar - interval sessions, timed sessions, distance sessions. You press go and put it in your camelbak with head phones on (I'm currently looking for a good set of waterproof headphones - blue tooth would be optimal!)

You set it to get updates every 1minute or whatever and it will tell you your speed, time left on your interval and heart rate (Polar have just brought out a bluetooth tansmitter that pairs with this App). At the end you get a map of your run and statistics on average speed and heartrate, which is graphed along with your total time or distance. Really useful for seeing where your workload increases or falls alway during an interval.

No need to mount a GPS on your board and try to see it - especially during these cold dark mornings we have here at present!



Hi Greg, sounds good. I'll have to try it. What sort of waterproof case do you use for your iPhone?

Goochi
WA, 846 posts
22 Jun 2012 10:24AM
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Hi Adam

I use a great waterproof case called Life Proof.
www.lifeproof.com/

You actually test it before you put your phone in it by submerging it in the sink for 1 hour - completely dry inside!
It's handy because its very thin and looks like a normal case, but hard wearing. I just have my phone in it all the time now.


akhawk said...

Goochi said...

It's an iPhone App - Cyclemeter.

I used to use Strava, but this one is great as I needed a programable timer with alarms.

You can set up your training sessions on a calendar - interval sessions, timed sessions, distance sessions. You press go and put it in your camelbak with head phones on (I'm currently looking for a good set of waterproof headphones - blue tooth would be optimal!)

You set it to get updates every 1minute or whatever and it will tell you your speed, time left on your interval and heart rate (Polar have just brought out a bluetooth tansmitter that pairs with this App). At the end you get a map of your run and statistics on average speed and heartrate, which is graphed along with your total time or distance. Really useful for seeing where your workload increases or falls alway during an interval.

No need to mount a GPS on your board and try to see it - especially during these cold dark mornings we have here at present!



Hi Greg, sounds good. I'll have to try it. What sort of waterproof case do you use for your iPhone?


Goochi
WA, 846 posts
22 Jun 2012 12:06PM
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Hi Potty
Heart rate zones depend on your age and fittness. there are numerous equations to work out max heart rate : Max HR = 220 - your age, is the common one. We find this is very rough as it doesn't take into account individual variation. For example I'm 40, but my max HR is 190.

The gold standard is to do a VO2 max test to work out your max HR and oxygen, but we don't all have access to that. The more reliable equation (IMO) is the Karvonen Method :

Target Heart Rate = ((Maximum Heart Rate – Resting Heart Rate) × %Intensity) + Resting Heart Rate

Steady state zone is 70-80%, if you work out the above and apply it you'll have your target heart rate!


PottyMullet said...

Thanks guys,

looks like there are some good tools out there but my 1990's Nokia (3120) doesn't support apps but its bombproof.

Also was just curious, does steady state heart rate get up to around 150-160 bpm when paddling for moderate distance?

Coming from a cycling and MTB (xc and endurance racing) background I'm familiar with getting heart rate up for distance but not sure about paddling SUP because i've only been supping for less than 2 weeks now and I find that my core muscles fatigue after a little while of really putting in the effort but I'm guessing that when my core strength improves I will be able to sustain effort for longer. Next time I go for a paddle I will take note of my breathing rate.

Potty


130jackblack
1 posts
2 Aug 2012 2:59AM
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Goochi said...

Hi Adam

I use a great waterproof case called Life Proof.
www.lifeproof.com/

You actually test it before you put your phone in it by submerging it in the sink for 1 hour - completely dry inside!
It's handy because its very thin and looks like a normal case, but hard wearing. I just have my phone in it all the time now.


akhawk said...

Goochi said...

It's an iPhone App - Cyclemeter.

I used to use Strava, but this one is great as I needed a programable timer with alarms.

You can set up your training sessions on a calendar - interval sessions, timed sessions, distance sessions. You press go and put it in your camelbak with head phones on (I'm currently looking for a good set of waterproof headphones - blue tooth would be optimal!)

You set it to get updates every 1minute or whatever and it will tell you your speed, time left on your interval and heart rate (Polar have just brought out a bluetooth tansmitter that pairs with this App). At the end you get a map of your run and statistics on average speed and heartrate, which is graphed along with your total time or distance. Really useful for seeing where your workload increases or falls alway during an interval.

No need to mount a GPS on your board and try to see it - especially during these cold dark mornings we have here at present!



Hi Greg, sounds good. I'll have to try it. What sort of waterproof case do you use for your iPhone?





Lifeproof cases are awesome, and you can get the bike holder for them too, and i just noticed on smartphone store that there is a Lifejacket that goes with the lifeproof case so it floats! Check it out at the bottom of the page smartphonestore.com.au/iphone-4S/lifeproof-iphone-case




HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
2 Aug 2012 6:47AM
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PottyMullet said...

Thanks guys,


Also was just curious, does steady state heart rate get up to around 150-160 bpm when paddling for moderate distance?


Potty


Hi mate, how's that GSR working out?
I have a bit of a cycling background too, road and the occasional crit mainly. I find with SUP my HR runs slower than on my bike for similar perceived effort. Even in sprint repeats or chasing the cool kids I rarely get up into VO2 on SUP but see it regularly on the bike. I suspect it's to do with (my) conditioning and the different muscle groups involved...much faster cadences involving big muscle groups on the bike etc etc and I'm used to pushing it. If I did more sprints & intervals on SUP I expect that would change. Over say 10k on the SUP I'll warm up to about 80% of max (which for me is in the high 140's) and hang there. FWIW distance SUP feels a bit like moderate tempo climbing to me, if that makes sense.

BrisKites
QLD, 1290 posts
2 Aug 2012 10:28AM
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surf4fun said...

Not sure of the name of it but Greg has a really good one that actually gives you updates as to how fast your are going, how far you have gone and what your heart rate is. Apparently you can set it up so that it updates you every 2,3,5, 10 minutes whatever. You can also preset intervals and rest times etc.

The benefit of it is you dont have to look down at a watch or anything it does all the work for you.


Sounds like it might be Motion-X GPS - gps.motionx.com/iphone/overview

FlyingKiwi
QLD, 218 posts
2 Aug 2012 10:02PM
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130jackblack said...

Goochi said...

Hi Adam

I use a great waterproof case called Life Proof.
www.lifeproof.com/

You actually test it before you put your phone in it by submerging it in the sink for 1 hour - completely dry inside!
It's handy because its very thin and looks like a normal case, but hard wearing. I just have my phone in it all the time now.


akhawk said...

Goochi said...

It's an iPhone App - Cyclemeter.

I used to use Strava, but this one is great as I needed a programable timer with alarms.

You can set up your training sessions on a calendar - interval sessions, timed sessions, distance sessions. You press go and put it in your camelbak with head phones on (I'm currently looking for a good set of waterproof headphones - blue tooth would be optimal!)

You set it to get updates every 1minute or whatever and it will tell you your speed, time left on your interval and heart rate (Polar have just brought out a bluetooth tansmitter that pairs with this App). At the end you get a map of your run and statistics on average speed and heartrate, which is graphed along with your total time or distance. Really useful for seeing where your workload increases or falls alway during an interval.

No need to mount a GPS on your board and try to see it - especially during these cold dark mornings we have here at present!



Hi Greg, sounds good. I'll have to try it. What sort of waterproof case do you use for your iPhone?





Lifeproof cases are awesome, and you can get the bike holder for them too, and i just noticed on smartphone store that there is a Lifejacket that goes with the lifeproof case so it floats! Check it out at the bottom of the page smartphonestore.com.au/iphone-4S/lifeproof-iphone-case







Has anyone been able to get the water proof headphone jack for the lifeproof, can't seem to find one that retails it in Aus, may have to bite the bullet and order from the States

Ian Grose
TAS, 423 posts
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4 Aug 2012 12:58AM
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Stu,

You must be a lot fitter than I am. I went for a 7 k paddle on Tuesday morning at 5.30 in the rain and wind and my average heart rate was 164 bpm 96% of max.

connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/204969463

It great the information that the Garmin 910 gives you.

Definitely hoping for for quicker times on Sunday

Ian

2KiteBurra
NSW, 56 posts
6 Aug 2012 11:18PM
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A good program that is available on android, I-phone and windows based phones is Sports tracker - www.sports-tracker.com/

GPS tracks you, does all the good stuff like speed, distance, average, HRM (with the Polar Bluetooth HRM) cal, Keeps a diary of workouts etc etc, visit site to check out, but best of all its free!!

As for water proof cases, go the H2O Audio Amphibx armband, its right there on your arm and you can listen to tunes whilst paddling your little heart out. or if the need arises talk on the phone whilst trying to get away from work

Great days for the long paddle.

Bleachy
SA, 80 posts
7 Aug 2012 12:19PM
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+ 1 for the H20 Audio (all tho I use mapmyrun app on Iphone also free), I think they have a couple of models to choose from. I rate mine highly its the slimer amphibx fit model. I also bought some cheap waterproof headphones from ebay for about 10bucks and havent had a problem yet.

Cheers,

Bleachy.

supthecreek
2616 posts
7 Aug 2012 2:03PM
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Here's a great way to plan or recreate a previous paddle trip.

It's called Daft Logic or Google Distance Map... here's the link:
www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm

Just go to this site and click your route on the google map.

Then I use Snapz Pro X to capture the image off my desktop to keep for my journal.

Here's an image of a route I use - the mileage is tallied at the bottom left as you add waypoints







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