nice work rod
ive seen your last board the red one from a distance once watching you out at the point (but didnt have a board with me)
i live about 30km up the coast from you
i'll have to call in sometime for a paddle/training...lol...
dogman
Select to expand quote2600 x 750 x 132ltrs or approx 8'6 x 30 inches wide.
The red one is a 9'0 x 29.5 inches wide at 137 ltrs.
the weather looks like a cracking NNE for Sunday that will be the 5th this season here since July break out the kites.
Yellow is faster than red.
I have been doing some work on volume concept for riders and the basic theory is, Entry level volume _ twice the riders weight in kilos_eg 60kg rider = 120 liters
Advanced riders volume_ 1.5 times their weight in kilos_eg 90kg rider = 135ltr.
The SUP design has come along very quickly in the past year, especially as more rider-shapers have achieved an advanced level of paddling skills. Rail volumes for stability/surfability have pretty much been worked out, and the width of boards has been found not to be a disadvantage in larger surf.
The entry level size of boards will change over the next year and I think will turn into performance boards, out go the aircraft carriers, just look back at wind surfing and kite surfing, no one produces tankers for entry level.
Rod
quote]Ben dover said...
How small is it?
Have not seen one yet, the yellow board is 4 weeks old. I like the isolation here at Coffs, you don't get to see too many production boards from Thailand, so the influence is non existant, a bit like Gerro in the late 70's early 80's when wind surfing first started.
One of the crew has a Naish 11' not enough tail lift for my liking. I don't use a paddle for turning because of an old back injury from surfing Burleigh in my teens, I can't twist and push the paddle, it hurts too much, so my boards are set up for turning in the classic style (no paddle) but surf progressively or tradionally depending on the rocker.
Rod
Mustard yellow, I heard it's the new black!
Looks pretty sweet, if your passing through sydney, I'd love to give it a try. Or next time I'm coming through coffs, should hook up!
Interesting theory on the litreage. I will find out what volume the Naish 9'6" is, as I think that is pretty much as small as I want to go.
JB
Hey Dgman, tried Steves board yet? You'll have to come down to try the shorties, I bounce between 88 to 92 kg, what weight are you ?
Rod
hey rod
im the same weight as you
tried his old board
it is flat in the nose rocker so i nose dived it a few times ...lol...
but after a few waves got the hang of it
ran up the nose the first time and it took off like a rocket
it loves to nose ride
but i mostly ride a naish 10'6
i said to steve that i'll come down for a day some time soon
where do you kite in a north easter down that way
looks good for sunday
dogman
Hearns for crossoff shore
I have a couple of secret spots for toeside onshore righthanders at home as well as in town, lets hope for a better season of wind than last year.
You would love my 9'5 blue or the 9'0 red, the blue has classic low nose rocker and tip rides easily, but with the late tail lift it gives you a performance ride for cutties and lip smashes, the red is progressive rocker, short boarding moves.
That thunderstorm passing over you, the radar shows it mostly to the north.
rod
hi rod
no storm yet just been working on my house "my never ending story"
last season was crap but scored a few nice sessions at minnie
when the swell was maxing out i kited main beach with the SE wind just cross off in the south corner near the bay entery
10 foot plus and you can start in the bay in knee size waves head out 50m and turn around into a few monster rights so easy
then do the walk of shame and do it again
dogman
I have the volumes of the 9'3" and the 9'6".
9'3" Naish SUP = 125ltrs.
9'6" Naish SUP = 135ltrs.
So using rods formla the ideal weight for an advanced rider would be,
9'3" = 83.3 kgs
9'6" = 90 kgs
It's kind of close, but I am 95 kg and the 9'6" is fine for me. There is that dude on the goldie that is 104kg on the 9'6" also, and he rips. But I guess as a guide it's a good starting point.
JB
JB
I prefer 135ltr as well, the yellow board is an old sail blank or two stuck together, then glassed with vinylester resin which is brownish but is more flexible than polyester resin.
The vol is fine on the 8'6 a little low but I made the rails finer than usual so it is a bit harder to balance especially in the side chop I get at the point, it bounces off the rocks. Any time your passing thru, anyone that is give me a call or PM me, I like to spend more time on the water than at the shaping room. Being semi retired makes it a little easier.
I have another 8'6 coming thru production with some subtle improvements.
Sounds like the vol concept is very close, when you get to expert level you can get away with less float. Age, fitness and agility are factors as well, I'm 54 and have been surfing and sailing all my life.
Rod
Hey Dogman
give me a call when the swells right like the last southerly, Ive always thought that that bit of reef looked good for a southerly. Who cares about the walk especially if you have survived a 10' down the line wall, I'm there.
What sort of board are you using, I'm going to use a twintip again this season, I'm tired of directional toeside.
Rod
hi rod
i got a north rocket fish 07
not real good when powered up or larger surf
great for small light wind
but over xmas snapped a fin
and used one of my favourite short boards strappless its 6'2 and has a narrow pin tail used to surf it years ago before i put on 30kg or so ..lol..
dogman
Has no one else got any pics?
Heres a couple more.
This board is a 9'0 x 29.5 x 137 ltr, 2750 x 745 x 137 ltr, a bit slower than the yellow one as it is red and only has 3 fins.
It too is made from old sailboard blanks cut and shunted, glassed with vinylester resin.
Both of these boards have been ridden in solid 2mtr surf and handle sucky takeoffs really well. It continually surprises me how well the SUPA boards go in hollow surf. My favourite short board is 6'3 x 25 wide, I have been ridding it or it s cousins for the past 5 yrs, so I should not be surprised with the SUPA boards.
Here's a picture of my latest SUP
Its 8'9 x 33 1/2 x 5 1/2
and it's 187.5 litres
Which is approximately 523.98 beers in my board
Here's another one , but I am leaving the fantasy world of sub9' and showing you this one .
It is 9'5 x 29.5 x 142ltr or 2850 x 750 and is blue, this one is the fastest of the lot so as it has carbon fibre strands running along the warp of the glass.
The surfboard design program that shall not be mentioned reckons it is 399.53 beers. This board is also a copy a Naish and has flat nose rocker for nose riding, the board is 4 months old and shows a few battle scars from demos and rocks. I have ridden this one in solid 2.5 to 3m surf.
I'm going to run out of pics soon, has no one else got any?
Mr Bend Over, you be the judge?
This one is the original one I made for my self in late 95. It has had three different
makovers. The side fins were added about 14 months ago 2nd make over.
At the time this was made most (all) SUP were square tails, I don't think Naish were in the country or even being made?
I have included the 6'3 board I scaled the SUP up from, this 6'3 model is around 6 years old, a proven design that all my SUP tail widths are derived from, 18 inches wide at the 1 ft mark with an area pin/round tail. Epoxy construction.
Rod
I don't think any of those boards look like Naish's
So how come u said this "This board is also a copy a Naish"?
Yer i was gunna say ur boards look like small longboards more than big shortboards in IMO
Select to expand quoteboardbumps said...
2600 x 750 x 132ltrs or approx 8'6 x 30 inches wide.
The red one is a 9'0 x 29.5 inches wide at 137 ltrs.
the weather looks like a cracking NNE for Sunday that will be the 5th this season here since July break out the kites.
Yellow is faster than red.
I have been doing some work on volume concept for riders and the basic theory is, Entry level volume _ twice the riders weight in kilos_eg 60kg rider = 120 liters
Advanced riders volume_ 1.5 times their weight in kilos_eg 90kg rider = 135ltr.
The SUP design has come along very quickly in the past year, especially as more rider-shapers have achieved an advanced level of paddling skills. Rail volumes for stability/surfability have pretty much been worked out, and the width of boards has been found not to be a disadvantage in larger surf.
The entry level size of boards will change over the next year and I think will turn into performance boards, out go the aircraft carriers, just look back at wind surfing and kite surfing, no one produces tankers for entry level.
Rod
quote]Ben dover said...
How small is it?
Wow you guys with your liters talk... Drives me crazy, this is sup not windsurfing, couldnt care less how many liters of beers you consume, keep it simple, just like surfing!!
