Hey Brooko,
literage puts thickness and width and length on an even playing field.
Reasonably informed judgements may be inferred by volume without seeing and handling or paddling the board. The volume concept is a very good way of fine tuning your boards.
10' x 28" x 4" and a pic tells you not much at all.
10' x 28" x 4" and a pic might look identical to the above board, but this ones rail is finer and the nose is thinner and the tail is slightly narrower.
Will they float the same? The pics show them to be very similar, volume sorts out this problem. The first one is 140 liters the second one is 130 liters.
Rod
Hey Ben,
I am pleased you noticed the style of and direction that I am heading with SUPA boards. They can be ridden traditionally or progressively, the narrow nose one are really tuned for progressive surfing.
I'm trying to get the swing weight out of the nose and to get the tails to carve around more without the use of a paddle.
What I most like about standup paddle surfing is the takeoff, you are already in a standing position, ready to go.
I am adding a couple of before and after screen shots of the 10'4" showing plan profile and rails.
The first one is the original design concept.
The other one shows how I increased tail lift by stepping the bottom rocker, it added another 15mm of late tail lift. This really loosened up the beast without loosing its big wave performance. I have used this board in solid 3mtr surf, late takeoffs scary as hell, board flat on the surface of the wave hoping not to nosedive at the bottom of the trough, the rocker is not too bad on this one.
Any board can be loosened up, especially the tankers, by adding a step bottom.
Most professional repairers should be able to do this sort of adjustment and make it look like part of the original design. I have just taken a quick pic of the step, left it full size so you can get a good look.
Rod
Here is some more images of my latest board showing the work I've had to do to get width and thickness, also one in the glassing section showing profile. It is another 260 but in white.
The deck after the extra foam has been vac bagged onto the deck
Showing the full length 260 blanks (2) joined
260 shaped and glassed in profile
Rod
Here are a few more images of the white 260 at the shape stage.
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The foam that was vac bagged onto the deck has been smoothed down
The skin of the blank has been removed from the deck
cutting out the planshape with a jigsaw
The planshape fully cut out
Rod
hi rod
thanks for letting me ride your boards and try out your paddle
had a great fathers day hanging out at arrawarra point
the locals where surprisingly cool and friendly
the family had a ball
and i loved the red 9'0 sup
turned so eazy and generated speed quick
great board that you can crack it off the top and handle the tight transition of the wave on the way down and do it again way before you would be half way through a turn on my 10'6
the tail lift is a winner
i'll try to make it back soon
dogman
Here some more images, foam fins being made and the white 260 glassed,
the image was taken from the mezzanine.
I'm pleased you liked the red 9'0 Tha Dogman, thanks for the report.
Rod
It's funny how people say 9'0 not 9 ft.
I do it aswell.
People say how big is ur dad's board and i say 9'0 not 9 ft but i can't help it.
I think its cause of when u save it on AKU Shaper u save it as 9'0.
I have to translate back to imperial all the time Ben, I've been using metric for 20yrs. It started when I first used the first pc program for board design, that was called DAT deadly accurate templates. 9'0 is easier to say than 9foot.
Good fun building your own boards?
Rod
A few images of PVC foam fins and showing the position of quad fins on the new 8'6
These are the fins glassed and trimmed to shape, the tab is for holding while foiling
The quad setup on the new board, positioned and tacked on
Front view of quad fins tacked on
These images are of setting the fins and leash bridge on my new 8'6 SUP
This image is of the materials (rovings and glass) used for setting the fins with resin
The fins have been set but not yet trimmed
The fins have been trimmed in this image
This image is of the rovings used to make a leash bridge for legrope attachment
The leash bridge has been made on the board
The next stage is filler coating for sanding
Rod
A few mor images of the 8'6
This shows the deckpad template on the deck of the board ready to be traced out so that masking tape can be placed around the drawn template so that resin does not go here.
Closeup of deck pad template
The board with the filler or sanding coat applied. you can see the masking tape in place under the board. The fins have been pre sanded before filler coating, this saves a lot of time with set fin quads and gives you a smoother plane between the fins.
Rod
All of them, except the latest molded blanks from USA which are available in higher densities than you can get in Aus.
Rod
Yeah, I remember you Stuey,
back then no-one new anything much about epoxy resin and styrofoam or vacuum foam sandwhich construction. Only the self taught mad scientists. Make sure you drop in and have a beer or 2.
For volumes, plan and rocker templates any of the new surfboard design programs will give you this info and let you print out the designs. AKU/APS3000 or Boardcad or Shape3D lite are the ones, they are free down loads. I have been thinking of doing an online workshop of 'how to' for these programs thru Seabreeze forums.
The old DAT 98 and it earlier versions about in 85 still print out the best profiles and planshapes for hot wiring templates but it is a pig to use, the above programs are much easier to use.
With these programs you can spend time fine tuning your design before you actually make it, that is after you have a pretty clear picture of what you want in your head. I personally find that the PC is a great aid to getting them out of my head, plus you have all those NEW clean lines that are not made from bits and pieces of different templates and bending sticks.
Rod
Great stuff Rod thanks for all the pics and info , love your fins.
I'll post some pics of my double bend timber paddle next week.
Rob
These images are of how I apply the non skid to the nose of my SUPA boards
This image shows the nose masked out ready for the peel ply non skid to be applied. Using this method no wax is needed on the board.
This image is a closeup of the peel ply taped into place before the resin is applied.
The resin has been added to the fabric
Closeup of the resin applied to the fabric
I am starting to remove the peel ply after the resin has gelled. The trick here is to leave the resin as long as possible before removing the fabric, too short a time and the resin settles and or comes away with the fabric and is too smooth, too long a period and the fabric does not want o be removed from the resin.
Closeup of the texture of the peel ply deck
Another angle closeup of the textured deck
The board has been sanded in this image, it also shows the quad setup. The 8'6 is in the spray bay waiting for the clear spray coat
The clear spray coat has been applied in this image
The next sequence will be of how I put the hand hold into the deck of the board and how I make my own EVA deck pad and glue it down. That will be later in the week, today I'm at home with one of the kids off sick and the wind is cranking from the NNE.
I'll be away next week it is our annual Oct hol week away at Soth west rocks. If your in the area drop in for a demo paddle, we stay over at the jail, right out at the end under the jail, look for the big silver tarp
Rod
Hey Rod, I take the family to Arakoon every January - site 43P (around the back a bit). Awesome place. I only got my SUP after I was there last time and am totally stinging to SUP surf those long rights off the point. Hope a nice NE swell is running for you. Take some photos if it's good.
Casso, great spot for the kids. The nne gets in for wind with an easy kite launch if the tide is low when the wind is crankin. A big south swell is supposed to wrap into the bay best of all. Its always windy where we camp, extra pegs on the guy ropes to hold the tarp. The wind has started with a vengence in Coffs, this is about the 7th black NNE already.
Rod
Gota love those foam fins, I had one of your thrusters with foam rail fins in the early 80's, one of the best boards I ever had I might add. Still got one of your boards although its got glass fins.
hi rod
wind is crankin
my band is playing at the pub at south west rocks on saturday night
the Airbourne Blues Virus
dont think we'll be able to surf as a few of the local crew are keen to party on
occupational hazard
Gee Cranky, I never thought I'd see one of those Gerro boards again, brings back memories. Old Neil is around my bit of the coast sometimes, mostly at Crescent.
Rod
Just been looking at your pics, trying to figure them out, Jakes is looking good.
Rod
