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Naish Flatwater Board???

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Created by Zimbo Reagan > 9 months ago, 5 Apr 2010
Zimbo Reagan
WA, 469 posts
5 Apr 2010 10:55AM
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Was just perusing though the photos of the recent Naish race in France and saw this board looks like a prototype, any thoughts on whether this is the new Naish flat water board?

Only reason I thought this was Naish's new board was because you had to be on a Naish board to compete (although thought I saw some other boards there as well).

Additionally it has that square flat rear end that Naish seem to love on their 14 and 17 boards (as opposed to a pin tail)



Lobes
885 posts
5 Apr 2010 11:23AM
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Looks like a bathtub. Hope its got some sort of drainage system

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
5 Apr 2010 2:04PM
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The Naish 17 goes to a Pin. The 14 is actually a 15 foot pin tail, with 1 foot cut off (IMO)

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
5 Apr 2010 2:22PM
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Definitely looks like Naish has reluctantly followed Starboard into the sunken deck terrain.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17517 posts
5 Apr 2010 4:29PM
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It's hard to tell by that pic but it's nothing like what I thought the new Naish flat water 14 would look like.

I don't think it is it but we should know soon.

DJ

paul.j
QLD, 3358 posts
5 Apr 2010 6:19PM
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very SOON

tha dogman
NSW, 2912 posts
5 Apr 2010 7:10PM
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cmon jacko

pass the gravy and spill the beans all over the breeze for us all

looks wild from those pics

i recon the flatwater racing will be huge as any joey sixpack can have a crack at it

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
5 Apr 2010 8:00PM
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tha dogman said...

cmon jacko

pass the gravy and spill the beans all over the breeze for us all

looks wild from those pics

i recon the flatwater racing will be huge as any joey sixpack can have a crack at it




if he knows, he sure isn't telling any of us. he'll just turn up one training morning with it under his arm i reckon
cheers

DavidJohn
VIC, 17517 posts
5 Apr 2010 9:34PM
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I thought Robby was very anti sunken decks and making his Naish boards look like Naish boats.

DJ

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
5 Apr 2010 9:41PM
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DavidJohn said...

I thought Robby was very anti sunken decks and making his Naish boards look like Naish boats.

DJ



If these pics are for real, Robbie Naish appears to have taken a gulp of pride and buckled under the weight of pressure from his team riders. Funny thing is, I know that guys like Lummers totally agree with Robbie's principle, yet still needs a quick board to compete.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
5 Apr 2010 9:47PM
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PTWoody said...

DavidJohn said...

I thought Robby was very anti sunken decks and making his Naish boards look like Naish boats.

DJ



If these pics are for real, Robbie Naish appears to have taken a gulp of pride and buckled under the weight of pressure from his team riders. Funny thing is, I know that guys like Lummers totally agree with Robbie's principle, yet still needs a quick board to compete.


i personally think you can make a fast board without being inside it. it's the stability that's the issue
cheers

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
5 Apr 2010 9:47PM
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tha dogman said...

any joey sixpack can have a crack at it


Too funny Dogman !

I'm NOT saying where I saw the new Naish flatwater thing, but it was far more canoe orientated than this one..... perhaps I saw an early 'proto', but what I saw seemed like 'fair dinkum' marketing for the real thing......

PS - I was sworn to secrecy, and I was told that "I never saw this/that"......

In round-a-bout terms, the new Naish Flatwater, was a cross-over from a Naish 14 with a flat rocker, and a few tweaks..... which gives away nothing here !!

DavidJohn
VIC, 17517 posts
5 Apr 2010 9:54PM
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Look at this pic.. They might be two different prototypes? (or maybe board A is the Starboard Pin?)

I'm guessing board B is the real deal.

DJ

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
5 Apr 2010 10:07PM
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DJ - I think your Board B, is the one in Zimbo Reagan's pic. But the one I saw was a little different again.... A little more like a old school Canadian Canoe Nose.... you know how the current 14 has a little bit of an old school nose...... but new one with a flatter rocker........

As we discussed the current 14 rocker is good for surf, down-wind, chop, etc, but the new 14 will no doubt be river orientated.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
5 Apr 2010 10:11PM
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Hey, I like the gondola nose on the current 14 !! It works, all-round !

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
5 Apr 2010 11:26PM
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DavidJohn said...

Look at this pic.. They might be two different prototypes? (or maybe board A is the Starboard Pin?)

I'm guessing board B is the real deal.

DJ




It seems that the guy in the foreground is on an aircraft carrier. Is that fair?

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
5 Apr 2010 11:32PM
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The foregound is a Naish 14 I believe. A White one. There are other yellow railed naish 14's in picture too. (Top, Left & Middle, although middle might be a 12.... - but Top & Left seem to be yellow railed 14's).

PS - yes they are commonly confused for Aircraft Carriers and Venetian Gondolas.

eric344
138 posts
5 Apr 2010 9:55PM
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DavidJohn said...

Look at this pic.. They might be two different prototypes? (or maybe board A is the Starboard Pin?)

I'm guessing board B is the real deal.

DJ




Hi,

None of the boards are Naish protoptypes,

Board A is a Starboard Pin
Board B is a custom board made out of an old kayak :

It was the first race for the owner of this board (built by his brother, finished few hours only before the start of the race) and he takes 3rd, well done !


Zimbo Reagan
WA, 469 posts
5 Apr 2010 10:01PM
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eric344 said...
Hi,

None of the boards are Naish protoptypes,

Board A is a Starboard Pin
Board B is a custom board made out of an old kayak :

It was the first race for the owner of this board (built by his brother, finished few hours only before the start of the race) and he takes 3rd, well done !

there's a full thread about this race here (yeah, sorry, it's in french ...) :
www.forumdesup.com/t1039-sup-naish-tour-2010-gruissan-3-4-avril



hah mystery solved ........

Or is Eric a Naish Spy trying to diffuse my recent discovery of their secret prototype

DavidJohn
VIC, 17517 posts
6 Apr 2010 3:38AM
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Thanks for that Eric..

It looked odd from what you could see in the picture.. I'm glad I was right about the Pin and I don't expect the new Naish to have such a square tail.

DJ

AZBuilt
12 posts
9 Apr 2010 11:59AM
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Here's Naish's info. looks good. 14' x 26"

Scotty Mac
SA, 2055 posts
9 Apr 2010 1:38PM
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At 6 and a half inches, we will all need longer paddles?

tha dogman
NSW, 2912 posts
9 Apr 2010 2:17PM
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well well the javelin

finally a piccie to go with the name

and the deck isnt scooped out

jacko when is it D day for it or should it be J day

paul.j
QLD, 3358 posts
9 Apr 2010 2:19PM
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Next week i should see mine

tha dogman
NSW, 2912 posts
9 Apr 2010 2:26PM
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nice jacko

what about that 10'8 ice pick

paul.j
QLD, 3358 posts
9 Apr 2010 2:32PM
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I think its coming at the same time or i hope so anyway!!

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
9 Apr 2010 2:37PM
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So we may see one at the final SHQ race next weekend. Any Naish team riders got that one in the diary?

tha dogman
NSW, 2912 posts
9 Apr 2010 2:50PM
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what happened to the 18ft flatwater board that was in one of the lists around the time that the 17ft glide came out

paul.j
QLD, 3358 posts
9 Apr 2010 3:09PM
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Have not heard anything on that for age's and i have a feeling that we might not as there's not much intrest in that type of class board. where as the 14ft class is going to be huge.

This 14 looks like a good shape and i'm keen to get one on the water and do some tests between different boards.

Jacko

tha dogman
NSW, 2912 posts
9 Apr 2010 3:13PM
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thanks jacko

Zimbo Reagan
WA, 469 posts
9 Apr 2010 2:51PM
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DavidJohn said...

Thanks for that Eric..

It looked odd from what you could see in the picture.. I'm glad I was right about the Pin and I don't expect the new Naish to have such a square tail.

DJ


shock DJ I thought you had your ear to the ground with everything Naish.

I am still undecided about square or pin tail.

I know the whole argument about "release" (well not whole argument but a little) with the pin tail but with the pin tail comes a little less stablity which means you have to go wider in the middle like the Pin to compensate. Which increases drag in any event.

blah blah blah enough crap cannot wait to demo and hear what DJ/ Jacko have to say.



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