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New BOP format ?

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Created by paul.j > 9 months ago, 13 Dec 2011
Secret Agent
QLD, 289 posts
14 Dec 2011 2:07PM
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If you don't want to run, just enter in the Open Race!

paul.j
QLD, 3341 posts
14 Dec 2011 2:23PM
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Secret Agent said...

If you don't want to run, just enter in the Open Race!


Pretty sure you won one of those once? remember when you were to much of a pussy to mix it with the Men!!!

paul.j
QLD, 3341 posts
14 Dec 2011 2:25PM
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PTWoody said...

I was thinking that if the course is too complicated as someone suggested, the very first leg at the start could just follow the same direction of the subsequent laps. Something like this...





Jacko, is there a reason you went straight up the middle at the start?


Yeah having a longer first straight sorts things out a bit before the first turn.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
14 Dec 2011 3:31PM
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paul.j said...

Yeah having a longer first straight sorts things out a bit before the first turn.


The first beach break sorts me out long before the first turn.

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
14 Dec 2011 7:27PM
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not that I race, but...... I think keep the run. It mixes it up and is another skill and can change the feild again, as with going in and out of the surf. I think that clubbie events have a good format and have evolved over the years to be good for competitors and spectators.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
14 Dec 2011 9:46PM
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i like simondos course.


there is a lot more surfing- left and rights.

carnage happens at every turn and change over any way. have a look in the latest sup world. boards and people getting trashed every where all over the course. brings a tear to the eye to see all those boards getting smashed- just for the crowd

avoiding an in coming or out going paddler is no different to any surf session at the goldie.

i reckon its the go


ps these bop races -can you get your board insured against damage.

HerbertVoigt
QLD, 155 posts
14 Dec 2011 9:46PM
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I have yet to participate in a BOP event but after watching a few on youtube I think it might take something away from the apeal to spectators. If the course is set up to come in along a jetty/pier then the beach spectators can still get a great view of the action. Or on the right highish tide and with the appropriate crowd contol then it would work well at a rivermouth (ie the Alley) where the inshore turn could perhaps be within the rivermouth.

Someone mentioned the clubbie races and have a handful of common formats works well to mix things up and keep things interesting.

Cheers
Herb

28days
WA, 5 posts
14 Dec 2011 8:59PM
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If you want this watersport to pick up momentum look at the old uncle tobys



formats on youtube. Thats a sport that started out just like SUP BOP, But it was only really an OZZY sport. In that sport there were run legs. WHY?
Well, Although the run legs are not fun for watermen and women it provides competitors an opportunity for competitors to mix with the crowd and the media and sponsors love this action. I understand that SUP should remain about the competitors but you must compromise on these issues to encourage sponsors to see value for their $ otherwise SUP BOP wont grow. If you hide the race from the spectators, sponsor banners and media it will end up a no-namesport and never reach the potential that it is showing at the moment. NO money no growth. just ask all the UNCLE TOBYS ironmen about what happens if the sponsors no longer get value for their dollar. It all ends

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
15 Dec 2011 12:51PM
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This is what I don't understand - how is it more visible for sponsors and spectators to have the racers turn at the water's edge or in 30cm of water, or even run on the sand about 5 metres from the water, as opposed to running 20 metres up the sand, turning around and running back? BOP running is nothing like Uncle Tobys (and thank God for that). At most, a BOP course includes a 50 metre run.

And as for that Iron Man footage, is the run not the most boring part of the event? Have a look at it. It's like watching grass grow. They're running slower than a marathon.

hoagie
VIC, 284 posts
15 Dec 2011 1:24PM
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I think you all have valid points and I really like simondos course, but still keep the run it. It gives the paddler a break and a chance to gain or lose ground on your opponent. Maybe add some of the crossfit games exercises that are on ESPN at the moment for the ultimate workout. It could be called survival of the fittest.



ChrisMcC
NSW, 667 posts
16 Dec 2011 1:06PM
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Elite Races such as the Rainbow Sandals / Gerry events I think are seperate to what Jacko is talking about, they are different league. I think he is talking more about the local events in Australia and is taking into consideration an event with less of a run leg may see participation rates increase. Am sure you will let me know if I am wrong Jacko.
Personally, whilst I think that the inclusion of a run leg is good as it gets those participating closer to spectators so they get the expected "move ya fat ass" comments from family and friends, perhaps reduce the length of the run and remove any requirement for soft sand running. Just my opinion.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
16 Dec 2011 4:25PM
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hoagie said...

I think you all have valid points and I really like simondos course, but still keep the run it. It gives the paddler a break and a chance to gain or lose ground on your opponent. Maybe add some of the crossfit games exercises that are on ESPN at the moment for the ultimate workout. It could be called survival of the fittest.






one thing to keep in mind- the run leg is no break. paddling a board standing up is using your legs.

rahams
NSW, 544 posts
16 Dec 2011 7:11PM
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PTWoody said...

This is what I don't understand - how is it more visible for sponsors and spectators to have the racers turn at the water's edge or in 30cm of water, or even run on the sand about 5 metres from the water, as opposed to running 20 metres up the sand, turning around and running back? BOP running is nothing like Uncle Tobys (and thank God for that). At most, a BOP course includes a 50 metre run.

And as for that Iron Man footage, is the run not the most boring part of the event? Have a look at it. It's like watching grass grow. They're running slower than a marathon.


noosa and coloum were 250m or more with noosa soft sad all the way.50m my arse

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
16 Dec 2011 7:46PM
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rahams said...

PTWoody said...

This is what I don't understand - how is it more visible for sponsors and spectators to have the racers turn at the water's edge or in 30cm of water, or even run on the sand about 5 metres from the water, as opposed to running 20 metres up the sand, turning around and running back? BOP running is nothing like Uncle Tobys (and thank God for that). At most, a BOP course includes a 50 metre run.

And as for that Iron Man footage, is the run not the most boring part of the event? Have a look at it. It's like watching grass grow. They're running slower than a marathon.


noosa and coloum were 250m or more with noosa soft sad all the way.50m my arse




Well that's just ridiculous. No wonder the OP is proposing getting rid of the run. 250 metres on soft sand? Insane. Who wants to watch that?



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