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Created by Al Hunter > 9 months ago, 4 Aug 2011
husq2100

husq2100

QLD, 2031 posts
7 Aug 2011 9:30PM
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Piros said...

Tig v Mig we are talking penetration it very easy to lay your weld on top with a Mig torch , Tig much higher temp and greater penetration my boys all day weld up balustrades for 30+ story buildings on 3 phase $5,000 Miller machines so trust me the welds are good on these racks.

Just go into Greenline and seen how many of these racks have failed over the last 3 years..? None... just imagine how many boards have been pulled on and off these racks in that time ?

My rack design is cost effective and structurally fit for purpose , yes you can build them stronger but no reason to unless you want to sleep on them.




TIG V MIG...either can be done properly or not. Penetration is not an issue for MIG and at 6000c neither is heat. I have seen the welds on your companies work and they are good. TIG always looks nicer to....(with the exception of those few that can manipulate the weld puddle of MIG to look EXACTLY like TIG)

Like I said, proper proceedure for each process and it wont be a problem

Like I said, your racks are good.

Like I said I have seen failures in Racks...You might want to change that none to one

Rob, dont take this the wrong way, just giving some thought and ideas to something that interests me

ShireSUP

ShireSUP

NSW, 982 posts
7 Aug 2011 9:50PM
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laceys lane said...

ShireSUP said...

laceys lane said...

husq2100 said...

talking and making anything better is a good thing im my mind. Isnt that why we have read so many board and fin reviews from you


why does everybody think i do fin reviews? i did on recently as joke because everbody thought it might have been about those reef sharks fin thingies.

speaking of, i had to give back those jm fins, so i was left with my am2's and tried a reuben shapers fin as centre fin that i had. it does look strange compared to the current trend of small sets of fins. had it way too forward to start with- too loose and i could hardly stand on the board. slipped it back to my normal spot on my last sup walk back circuit and well- the board was super fast drivey. it turned back fast and positive on cutback rebounds instead of that swing feel and gave my a lot confidence in and around the steep sections in low tide alley/laceys this morning.

cmc has been telling everyone their supping with too smaller fins- i think he is right.

thanks, i was dying for that excuse





Lacey, seeing as you changed the topic and given you are the unofficial expert on all things fins, I read your comments on moving the fins, well I am new and find sometimes the board is "loose" (Naish Nalu 11'6) particularly in wind and small cop. Anyway I have the fin (11" standard from the factory) in the fin box where it was when I bought it. Which is pretty much to the front of the fin box

If I moved it to the back of the fin would it make the board more stable.........and why? The fin box is only 250mm which I guess is standard so i cant understand why this would be.

Any help appreciated.

Greg


hi, a few of us reckon a good starting positioning point for centre fins is 8" for the back of the fin to the back of the tail. i was chucking in the fins on my ripper 8'6, scotty said try the fin up a bit more seeing as it is big- just to see how it would go.

now as big as the fin is, it was really difficult to stand in the two direction chop we had.

when i eventually got the fin back to my normal 8" position it was a lot easier to deal with stability wise.why, i'm not super sure.

what i have found is you can go back a bit further with the centre fin, but to far back and the board drags its arse paddling and well its just plain weird to surf unless it big and pumping

so i would say something like this, if you have to push the fin right back to get stability, i would say you need a different or bigger fin. you can go two ways- more of a base ier fin or a bigger narrowish base fin with some rake.
i was impressed with the holding/drive feel of the rueben with out giving up any looseness then i was used too. again i'm not overtly fond of really loose surfbboards- i reckon they just end up screwing up your surfing

cheers


Thanks Lacey, I measured, magically 8" from the back of the board............i will try moving it back a little to see before expending on another fin (need to think of an excuse to explain that to the wife........)

laceys lane

laceys lane

QLD, 19803 posts
7 Aug 2011 10:09PM
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hey mate, i might add that the sups i surf are under nine foot. those theories might not hold true on the size or board you are riding. would be interested to see what you reckon if you move your fin back a bit. i don't reckon your going to need a bigger fin then you've got. try the fin back a bit, you would be surprised how much even 5 mm's makes. if you don't get a result there play with the side fins
cheers

ShireSUP

ShireSUP

NSW, 982 posts
7 Aug 2011 10:16PM
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laceys lane said...

hey mate, i might add that the sups i surf are under nine foot. those theories might not hold true on the size or board you are riding. would be interested to see what you reckon if you move your fin back a bit. i don't reckon your going to need a bigger fin then you've got. try the fin back a bit, you would be surprised how much even 5 mm's makes. if you don't get a result there play with the side fins
cheers


Cheers, I will, as for the side fins.....maybe i might need to get them fitted first........

Nalu 11'6”

The Nalu 11'6” is the standard by which all other full sized SUPs are judged. This board is thick and stable, and surfs rail-to-rail like a much shorter board. Suitable for riders even above 200 lbs., the Nalu 11'6” features classic lines, unbeatable construction, and awesome all-around appeal.

11'6” x 29 ¾”x 5 ½” , 231L
Construction: Sandwich Wood
Fin Set-up: Single

I'm a full sized kinda guy lol

laceys lane

laceys lane

QLD, 19803 posts
7 Aug 2011 10:57PM
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ShireSUP said...

laceys lane said...

hey mate, i might add that the sups i surf are under nine foot. those theories might not hold true on the size or board you are riding. would be interested to see what you reckon if you move your fin back a bit. i don't reckon your going to need a bigger fin then you've got. try the fin back a bit, you would be surprised how much even 5 mm's makes. if you don't get a result there play with the side fins
cheers


Cheers, I will, as for the side fins.....maybe i might need to get them fitted first........

Nalu 11'6”

The Nalu 11'6” is the standard by which all other full sized SUPs are judged. This board is thick and stable, and surfs rail-to-rail like a much shorter board. Suitable for riders even above 200 lbs., the Nalu 11'6” features classic lines, unbeatable construction, and awesome all-around appeal.

11'6” x 29 ¾”x 5 ½” , 231L
Construction: Sandwich Wood
Fin Set-up: Single

I'm a full sized kinda guy lol


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doggie

doggie

WA, 15849 posts
8 Aug 2011 11:21AM
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Fins and racks, no surf in QLD at the moment fellas?




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