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SHQ Cruise to the Cerberus (This Sunday)

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Created by SHQ > 9 months ago, 13 Jan 2009
SHQ
VIC, 322 posts
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13 Jan 2009 9:36AM
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Where: Start Sandringham Breakwater 10 am

When: Sunday Feb 15th

Sign up from 9.00am - Start 10 am

What to expect:
A 6 km Stand Up Paddle Race from The Sandringham Breakwater past the beautiful Red Bluff cliffs near Half Moon Bay to the Cerberus and back
We welcome all levels of Paddlers from first timers to the long distance specialists
Bring your family and friends to enjoy the Free SUP Clinics and demo boards available
Don't have your own board, don't worry, over 12 demo boards available to use for the race
Come and try the latest boards and paddles from Naish, PSH, South Point, Oxbow, 7S, Kialoa and Werner
Generous luky draw prizes from Global Surf Industries, Kialoa, Oxbow, PSH, Naish, Werner, Creatures and SurfAid.
Make sure you stay around for the Free BBQ and drinks !

Update:
Free Intro to SUP Clinic by Seabreeze gooru David DJ Peterson and SUP Surf Clinic by Matt Lumley (PSH teamrider) straight after the race. So bring your family and friends and introduce them to Stand Up Paddling!


Competition format:
Two classes depending on turnout

12'6" ft and under
Over 12'6" ft (open class)


Lucky draw prizes:

Kialoa Methane paddle $499
Werner Spanker paddle $549
2 x GSI Carbon Paddle $399
Oxbow Paddle $299
Werner paddle bag $79
PSH deckpad $169
Creatures deckpad $149
Surfaids bag $179
Naish Watershirts $169

C you there !



DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
13 Jan 2009 10:48AM
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I can't wait.. It's gunna be huge..

The last one (last year) was soooooo good and I'm sure this one will be even better... It's worth it just for the BBQ at the end..

DJ

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
13 Jan 2009 10:02PM
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Here's my post about last years event.. (I can't believe I used a 10'6" wave board in the race. )..but I still won a cool prize..

Click here... www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35128&SearchTerms=melbourne,first,sup,race

My money's on this guy to win.. ..and he now has a new Kialoa paddle..I might have to drill holes in it.. ..I wonder if he'll notice..

Hey.. are you Torquay guys coming up again?... Matt.. Rich? ..(Matt won last year)

DJ

allrounder
VIC, 157 posts
13 Jan 2009 11:50PM
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hey dave, i will be there. how are we going to beet you guys on the naish glides?

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
14 Jan 2009 12:12AM
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allrounder said...

hey dave, i will be there. how are we going to beet you guys on the naish glides?


Arrr yes.. But they says it's the engine that counts the most.. Sorry Stuey ..Hey Stuey.. If Matt calls and wants to borrow the Pene pretend you're not home..

Matt... I'm gunna do what you did last year..

Paddle hard from the get go.. and then when you get tired..paddle harder.. ..I don't know how you did it.. It must be that young ticker.

DJ



Bnaccas
VIC, 1722 posts
14 Jan 2009 12:31AM
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I'm going to do the half marathon. Get dropped at halfmoon bay (Cerebus) and paddle back. My shoulders can't handle that stuff anymore.

Or maybe I paddle out and do some freestyle....NOT?

Either way I'll be there for the sausages. Im' good at that!

oliver
3952 posts
13 Jan 2009 11:22PM
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I like the poster - count me in - looks like a fun cruisy way to spend a morning.

Session
VIC, 445 posts
14 Jan 2009 9:54AM
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DJ ,

Im there for sure .....not sure what board yet?

Rich

allrounder
VIC, 157 posts
14 Jan 2009 10:00AM
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Dave, you should lend me your naish?

BWDave
VIC, 239 posts
14 Jan 2009 2:12PM
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I,m there for sure. Last year was a terrific event. Prizes for everyone that competed. Looking forward to it
Dave

SUPB
VIC, 90 posts
15 Jan 2009 11:52AM
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Sounds great

We will be there, going to be great to see all our friends from SHQ

It is great that they supporting the SUP community



Denning
the Stand-up paddle boarding St Kilda bus

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
23 Jan 2009 11:24AM
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I was just looking through my pics form last year and found some that I've not posted.

I also wanted to explain a few things about how the day will go.

Remember it's Sunday the 15th this year... I hope we get off racing on time this year before the wind picks up and choppies up the water.



Here I am checking out the course and thinking..'Jeeez.. I can't even see the Cerberus from here'.. .



This is what the Cerberus looks like..It's an old shipwreck.



It's very important that you don't get too close to it.



It's very important to not go on board.



It's also very important that you don't pee on it..no matter how much you're busting.



There's big fines for naughty people who do these bad things.



It's really not that far.. It might be over in about half an hour this year.. ..Maybe.. I've put in for calm conditions but you never know. (after all it is Melbourne)

Matt was the winner last year on the very high tech stock 11'6" Southpoint Kalama..



I think we might see a new shape trophy this year.. I wonder who's name will be on it.



For those who don't know or who weren't there last year the top ten place finishers names went into a box and names got drawn out to win great prizes.

I'll check with the guys at SHQ and see if there are any changes for this year.



This year will be the same so you could finish tenth and still win a new $500 paddle.. I know Kialoa are one of the sponsors along with many other great sponsors.

Last year I was rapt to win a carbon paddle after making my own alloy paddles.. Jeeez.. What a difference a good paddle makes.. I was a happy-chappy.



Here's fireman Dave.. Just keeping an eye on the BBQ just in case there's a fire...btw.. Dave came second last year..Will he win it this year?.. The pressure's on..

DJ



Lobes
885 posts
23 Jan 2009 12:02PM
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I am very interested in participating in this but would need to borrow a board and paddle. Was the wind a factor in last years race?

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
23 Jan 2009 3:18PM
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Lobes said...

I am very interested in participating in this but would need to borrow a board and paddle. Was the wind a factor in last years race?


I'm sure there will be plenty of boards and paddles for people to use.. Last year half the boards were old wally windsurfers.

Last year it was glassy till about 10am and I was thinking come on guys but because the boys from Torquay were running late I think it was more like 11am when we started and the sea breeze had started to kick in at about 12 knots.

Just enough to make the side chop a little tricky.

DJ

camo hosk
VIC, 613 posts
23 Jan 2009 8:01PM
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Is there any handicaps for the length of board you paddle?
Like say 20 minutes per inch time penalty working down from a 12foot board.

Bnaccas
VIC, 1722 posts
23 Jan 2009 11:42PM
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Thats actually a really good idea. I rekon about 7 minute per foot would be about right for the length of race. Last year most boards were around 11'6" and I think 46 or 47 minutes was the winning time.

If my shoulders hold out, I rekon on my 9'6" i'd do it in just over an hour. Something for the SHQ boys to think about.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
24 Jan 2009 1:15PM
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camo hosk said...

Is there any handicaps for the length of board you paddle?
Like say 20 minutes per inch time penalty working down from a 12foot board.


I'll look into but I don't think we'll see many, if any long race boards.

The serious guys in the US using their fancy GPS thingies have found that the difference between board speed of a stock 12' board and a long race board is often only about 1 mph.. (4mph vs 5mph) .. so it takes a long distance to really make a difference..and this is why a faster paddler on a slower board can beat a slower paddler on a faster board..In fact it's much more about the paddler IMO..(down-winders and catching runners may be a different story).

It's more of a fun event to get new people into SUP and is not taken too serious.

Everyone who enters on the day will be a winner even if just to share in the BBQ at the end and make new friends that enjoy doing what you do... SUP.

I'm going to give a talk about SUP at the end for new people getting into it and I will even have my new SUP simulator there to stand on while I talk..

I will look forward to meeting up with you Cameron on the day.. (If not before) .. Where do you mostly paddle?

DJ

camo hosk
VIC, 613 posts
24 Jan 2009 6:40PM
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G'day DJ,
been spending some time around the westernport area,as its a good area
to do openwater paddles and some surfing.
Cheers,
Camo.

Bnaccas
VIC, 1722 posts
26 Jan 2009 1:16AM
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I'll look into but I don't think we'll see many, if any long race boards.

The serious guys in the US using their fancy GPS thingies have found that the difference between board speed of a stock 12' board and a long race board is often only about 1 mph.. (4mph vs 5mph) .. so it takes a long distance to really make a difference..and this is why a faster paddler on a slower board can beat a slower paddler on a faster board..In fact it's much more about the paddler IMO..(down-winders and catching runners may be a different story).

DJ


4mph to 5mph. Thats 20% different. Thats heaps!
So last year it took the fleet between 45min and 55min. Therefore the paddler on a standard 12' would finish roughly 9 to 11 minutes behind a paddler of the same standard on a 12' race board, or 1.4km behind.

So I'm guessing here if I paddle my 9'6" it would be safe to assume it's 20% slower than the standard 12'. So I could start 20 minutes in front of a race board and 10 minutes in front of a standard 12ft'er. I'll still get may arse kicked!!

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
26 Jan 2009 1:28AM
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I think you need to borrow a bigger board for the race..and there should be heaps of demo boards to choose from..

DJ

Bnaccas
VIC, 1722 posts
26 Jan 2009 1:30AM
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Then I have no excuses! Why would I do that?
Honestly though, I think I have decided I'm a SUP surfer, not a SUPlete.
I wish I was both but I love the good life tooo much.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
10 Feb 2009 9:49AM
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It's only a few days away now and I had planed to paddle the course many times as a sort of training but haven't done it once.. Oh well.

I can't decide what paddle to use.. Big.. or ..small.

As much as I love these new small paddles a big paddle does have more power..if you can power it..and keep it going.

40 minutes sounds like a short race compared to some races but it's still a long time to be digging with a big paddle.

What do you guys think?...does size matter?

DJ

allrounder
VIC, 157 posts
10 Feb 2009 10:02AM
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DJ, just go the Shakapu. you cant go past it. GO for power and just sprint the whole way.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
10 Feb 2009 10:12AM
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allrounder said...

DJ, just go the Shakapu. you cant go past it. GO for power and just sprint the whole way.


That's ok for you young guys to say.. But us old farts need to pace ourselves.

I think we need to cut down a Methane for you.. To slow you down and make it fair on everyone else..

btw.. there will be a champion Canadian canoe paddler there.. how are we going to slow him down?

See you guys on the week end.

DJ

Lobes
885 posts
10 Feb 2009 8:28AM
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Yeah interesting dilemma. A big paddle gives you more power but only if you can deliver it. A smaller paddle is less power but easier to change your cadence thus giving you more options for a race strategy.

It depends on how you want to approach the race. Go out hard and keep a steady pace for the whole course or put on bursts at certain times like the start and the finish. In the end I would go with the paddle you have been training the most with.

Piros
QLD, 6996 posts
10 Feb 2009 10:50AM
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DJ it all comes down to your rating , with the smaller paddles just keep the power and intensity at the front of stroke and keep it short don't pull past your foot.If there is big smoking runners a bigger blade would be better.

It takes a bit of practice but the tap tap style rating on the little paddles can really get the board moving but you have to stand up very straight and engage your core on every stroke otherwise you will blow your arms really fast.

By the sounds of things you are too close to race to try something new so for this one stick with ole faithfull.

rodriguez
VIC, 883 posts
10 Feb 2009 12:27PM
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I think you should change the date !!! i'm going to be away on hol's. All jokes aside I hope you guys get good conditions & have a ball, ill be taking my computer so hope you can advise the results and all the buzz. Any chance of a mystery prize lets say a methane would be good.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
10 Feb 2009 3:58PM
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Piros said...

DJ it all comes down to your rating , with the smaller paddles just keep the power and intensity at the front of stroke and keep it short don't pull past your foot.If there is big smoking runners a bigger blade would be better.

It takes a bit of practice but the tap tap style rating on the little paddles can really get the board moving but you have to stand up very straight and engage your core on every stroke otherwise you will blow your arms really fast.

By the sounds of things you are too close to race to try something new so for this one stick with ole faithfull.


Thanks Piros.. It's looking like the Shaka Pu'u is going to be the one to use.. It's a nice middle of the road paddle.

BTW... I've just noticed the prizes have been updated... Wow! ..that's a heap of good carbon paddles up for grabs.

Kialoa Methane paddle $499
Werner Spanker paddle $549
2 x GSI Carbon Paddle $399
Oxbow Paddle $299
Werner paddle bag $79
PSH deckpad $169
Creatures deckpad $149
Surfaids bag $179
Naish Watershirts $169

Being a lucky draw is a great idea for the weaker/new guys to be in the running to win something good.

The weather forecast is looking good.. and I'm glad it's an early start so it should be glassy.

DJ

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
10 Feb 2009 5:48PM
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This is Chuck Patterson on his way to winning BOP (battle of the paddle) last year.. and the $20,000 prize money..

He used the Shaka Pu'u and told me that the thing that helped him the most was using his surf paddle that's a few inches shorter than what he normally uses.

Interesting... ...I wonder if Chuck will turn up for our race?

DJ

DavidJohn
VIC, 17462 posts
12 Feb 2009 3:32PM
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Just heard that the SHQ guys are going to donate the money raised from the event (entry fees etc) to the Bush Fire victims... Good one Mike/Luke/Paul..

I guess it would normally go to the barbie and cold drinks etc.

I will bring an esky full of cold coke and solo for every one to help themselves.

The forcast is looking good.. Let's make this a huge one and the more the merrier I reckon..

Last year we had about 20... I wonder how many we'll get this time?

I was talking with Matt (GSI) this morning and they have some interesting boards coming in the future.. Catch up with him there and get all the goss..

DJ

Bnaccas
VIC, 1722 posts
15 Feb 2009 1:31AM
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jst got home from an engagement party. I'm going to be one hung over boy in the morning. Imight end up being a spectator.



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