Scroll down a bit and there are some more vids form the Sunset SUP comp.
Also an interesting discussion re the design limitations of some of the boards (See the previous page).
Seems like it is taboo (for some) to question the design of SUP in larger waves.
www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=6203.105
What do you guys think?
Great vid..
Theres a shot of kai lenny on one of those movies and he looks to have the best control of his board it looks very smooth and seem to hold the speed better than some of the others. But then again it could have been a smoother wave with not as much wind.
I agree Jacko and I reckon it has to do with the curvier rocker he would have on that SUP of his.
Personally I can't understand why some of the guys are riding what look like blown up longboards on waves like Sunset and Chopes. I also don't get the flatter rockers on some of the designs either.
That has a flat rocker which gives you speed. Too much rocker and you cannot make the sections. They were taking off DEEP. I hate hitting terminal velocity on a big wave and you need more speed
Hey Hilly, the 8 8 would be crap in surf like that, have tried it at 2nd Bombie Long Reef, which is not dissimilar to Sunset in some ways.
I have surfed Sunset at a similar size (not on a SUP) and it is a damn tricky wave to surf, hard to bottom turn on out the back.
The theory behind guns though is that they should have slightly more rocker and it seems to me that with a lot of SUP design, the emphasis is on paddle speed and glide to the detriment of performance.
Anyways I am no expert in SUP design just throwing it out there for discussion.
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Judging from the footage ,Bongo was the only one doing critical snaps and rail turns.
Any one agree??
Great vid.
PT
Rocker and steep sections are fine. Have a look at the vid it is not always steep lots of pretty flat sections to negotiate. Fine balancing act the shaper is following.
Daneli, this is what I think. Flatter boards are faster. Rockered boards can negotiate the steeper drops and do manuevers in the steeper part of the wave better. Rockered boards need to be surfed more in the pocket of the wave because they slow down faster. You can think of the rounded shape of a breaking wave and see that a rounded, rockered board can fit better going up and down in the wave. Sunset is tricky because there are super steep drops and pocket but slopier, flatter shoulders. There seems to be a lot of flatter sections to negotiate to get into the juice depending on the wave. It is a good challenge for the shapers to make boards for sunset.
Sunset Boards - whilst it will be a slight challenge for some shapers, I think a place like Sunset should be left alone to the shortboard surfers.
Running an SUP comp at Sunset was a slightly dangerous move.... imagine an American or Australian kid rocking up to Sunset on an SUP.... even at 6-10 foot Hawaiian you can paddle straight out from the deep water bay on the beach, and get into the line-up with dry hair.... where you will be greeted by some local boys !!
One problem at Sunset is getting cleaned up by rouge sets, and big SUP boards would nearly rip you leg out of its socket !! It would be easy to endanger others also. Plus the big boards bounce around a lot on the wave face, and sometimes does not look pretty.
But..... Bells would be a good place for an SUP Comp. 16 Pre-selected riders, 4 man heats.... You could have it "run and won" in a 5-6 hour window.....
I am pretty sure nobody surfs SUP at sunset except for a few of the local boys like Kala and those guys. Those guys surf where they want and back it up with skills. As far as I know, only Ikaika, Kianoa Mcgee and Kala surf Pipe on SUP. These spots are heavily localized and sort themselves out pretty well from what I have seen.
Back to judging criteria,was Bongo scoring the highest wave scores??
Not detracting from the place getters in any way.Just a question.
It looked like Bonga was on a PSH ripper but I can't be sure. Someone from the shop said he came in before the contest but not sure.
for sure ,Bonga looked very composed and slotted
