Particularly like Dave's views on surf etiquette. (4:07 to 5:07). Worth a look. Thanks to Oliver for the original link to this. 
Hey RD,
I agree in principal with what you and Dave say on this point!
The problem is in more urban areas its difficult to always get completely away from the crowd especially to safe areas for the kids.
On Sat last weekend I had the 2 girls and myself out and we paid respect to all surfers and only picked off the odd wave here and there.
I am quite strict on the kids and always remind them of what is right and wrong and to ensure they pay the respect due in the line up.
I even sup well away from my mates that still prone surf and I find that a real bummer but its necessary most of the time, if I want to do the right thing.
We had one SUPer out who blatantly was doing the wrong thing. Taking off in the middle of the pack and charging straight down the line.
I wont go into the convo in the car park but it related to surf wax and windows lol.
Nough said
Phill
From Paddle Surf Hawaii website .
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How are you representing Stand Up Paddle Surfing?
Are you Dangerous to others? Are you a WAVE HOG?
When Beach Boy surfing, there are Kool things and things that make you a huge KOOK!
This section is dedicated to Kook & Kool!
1. You paddle out floundering to a lineup with surfers. You can barely stay standing but proceed right into or outside of the lineup. You paddle for waves while people scramble out of your way only to fall off before you can even get on the wave.... Your big board becomes an extremely dangerous projectile... Kook alert!! KOOK!! KOOK!! KOOK!! KOOK!!
2. You can barely stay standing so you practice in an area where no one is around that you could endanger or bum out. You care about the world wide effects of SUP surfing so you paddle and surf with Aloha. Very Kool!!
3. You start to get the hang of it and want to surf better waves so you decide to surf a more popular spot. You paddle out and stand outside everyone. The sets come and you paddle in like a locomotive right thru the pack. You get waves in every set... KOOK!!
4. You start to get the hang of it and want to surf better waves so you decide to surf a more popular spot. You paddle out and check out the situation. You see waves off to the side that a lot less people go for. You catch a few of those... Since you don't want to wear out your welcome, you decide to catch only a few set waves at most. You surf with Aloha.... Kool!
5. You paddle out on an in-consistent day to a crowded spot. You stand outside everyone the whole duration of the lulls. You never sit down so you tower over others the whole time... You make sure you catch a wave from every set. KOOK!
6. You paddle out on an in-consistent day to a crowded spot. You feel like you're on stage so you stand off to the side or sit down between sets because you don't like blocking everyone's view of the beautiful ocean. You catch a couple waves then move to the inside or on to another spot or just paddle around because you figured out how to surf with Aloha... KOOL!!
7. You're pretty good and can get in and around the surf well... You surf crowded spots and catch all the waves you can. Small ones, set waves etc. Because you can surf good you get plenty waves. You're always calling people off your waves. You just can't help yourself to sit sets out so you basically take over the spot for the duration of your surf. HUGE SELFISH KOOK!!!!!!!!
8. You're pretty good and can get in and around the surf well... You go to a crowded spot and check out what's going on. You see some of the lesser quality waves going un-ridden and surf those. You catch a ton of waves but ones that no one really wants. You paddle out and get a few set waves but you make sure others get waves by quietly cluing them in to incoming sets. You become a quiet spotter of sorts for others to score good waves.... You always sit out a few sets. You use your high vantage point to stoke others out. KOOL!! (When you arrive and it's already crowded NOT GOING OUT THERE is the KOOLEST!)
9. You see how cool SUP surfing is because you can paddle fast and want to get back at those greedy longboarders. You decide to get into it to take over and be the dominent surfer at any spot at any time. Do the entire surfing world a favor and don't get into it. You are the biggest KOOK!!!!!!
10. You see how cool SUP surfing is because you can do something that is a challenge, get great exercise, paddle far up the coast at will, have a blast riding waves you never thought would be fun, discover new spots, like to enjoy the comraderie of the SUP surfers around the world. KOOL!!
Note:
If there are more than one of you SUP surfing, everything becomes doubled, tripled, quadrupled, etc.
Avoid heavy rotations with other SUP surfers when surfing with others.
Be aware of your actions and the actions of others. BE KOOL!
Another one from Paddle Surf Hawaii website.
Has been posted before but worth another look.
SUP Surfing With Others
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By Blane Chambers
"This is only one persons perspective and not the right or wrong way but it has worked nicely for a couple winters on the busiest stretch of coast with the most aggressive surfers in the World.
First off, when I arrive at the beach and its crowded I'm not even thinking about being in that lineup. If I wasn't already out by the time people arrive I'm going somewhere else... This is how I've been surfing for the last 30 years so nothing new here. Just not into crowds.
My daily surf usually goes like this.... Dawn patrol and try to be the first one out. Hustle and catch every perfect set wave till someone else comes out. If no one comes out for 20 minutes, you will of gotten plenty by then... As people come out I'm toning it down and moving over to the inside or to another peak. Still getting plenty waves but not the ones people want. I let the crowd push me out. Crowd fills in more and I'm outta there to the next empty spot or by then I may already be done.
Other cool sessions will involve long paddles into no mans land type areas where we score crazy good waves. Waaay better than people even know about but only worth going on a ski or with a SUP board. Sometimes when the waves are solid and there are consequences the crowds are not even a factor especially at remote spots. Pick and choose different places to adventure off the beaten track.
Some cool comments I got over the winter were, "Man, you could get any wave you want but you always go for the junk ones. You always let us have the good ones." Little do they know I was out early and already got a bunch of set waves. They also don't know waves they consider junk are still super fun on a stand up...
The best comment I ever got was on a day there must of been 60+ people but no one was sitting way way deep. I was almost taking off at another spot. I must of caught over 30 waves and kept coming back through the regular crowded lineup on the way back out... On one of the passes another long time regular says, "Everytime I turn around you're paddling back out. Where are you coming from? Its like you're invisible!" Always nice to appear to be invisible...
Another thing that works nice is when you sit down between waves. Its a natural feeling when someone stands over you to feel threatened or think you are trying to be dominant. By towering over people it sends out a negative message like you are trying to be superior or you are perched and ready to get everything in sight. By sitting you are sending off the message that you are relaxing and in no hurry to get every wave. When around others forget the macho hype about standing the whole time you're out. Sit down, relax....
By surfing shorter boards we are surfing from the inside out instead of the outside in. Here's an example... If you're on a big board you are forced to stay on the outside because turning around takes awhile and getting in early is the only way to take off safely. On a big board you are forcing yourself to only get set waves right thru the pack. On shorter SUP boards you can stand inside and spin around right as the wave is in front of you. You can still get in super early but now you have another option of hanging inside. Because the board is shorter you can take off when its steep and late. This opens up way more waves to you. A lot of times I stand inside regular surfers and watch what they don't go for. All the ones they don't want I go after. Because they're facing out to sea, most times they don't even know you're there. On the way back out if no one is around you can spin on a dime and go... Some sessions I'll only surf inside of everyone. Its like being out alone.
The key is to have an awareness of your individual impact on the situation your in. Have basic common sense. Be honest with yourself... What are your true abilities? Are you a danger to others? Is this your local spot where you are more accepted? Do you know the area well? What are your options? When caught inside what are you going to do? Where is your escape route? Are there other SUP surfers that aren't aware? Talk to them. Let them know if they are being dangerous or stupid. Send them to this site to read things that could help them. I hope this can help and shed some light on what will always be a touchy subject. "
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By Blane Chambers
Totally agree with everything said, esp about being honest with your ability.... I think If you know what you are doing and charging the peak as deep as anyone on a shortboard, you deserve a bit of space and respect right there. Some people are just a**holes in the water, I could have went up and got my shortboard and came back out and these small minded "locals" still would have sooked Real small town mentality by some people, maybe they need to travel a bit 
Excellent post Rob dog,totally agree with both commentaries. Brings to light another point of view on standing/sitting between sets.
Rodriguez
I totally disagree with you Brooko.
Being honest with your ability doesnt give you the right to think you own the wave.
, etc, all the prone surfers are sitting there in silence with long melancholy looks on their faces. And then when the set comes & they're scrabbling, we're such good guys (
) that we'll often say "you go for it mate". Sainthood for suppers in the future
i visited brooko's in march during the last big swell,drove into the dirt carpark and got vibed out there,couldnt park anywhere so we just watched from the lookout,pretty heavy shortboard sanctuary,brooko,you would survive being a big bugger and a local but youre right,they are a...holes,the sooks that is.if you can surf you deserve a place in the lineup,this all may get worse before it gets better,thats why we need clubs to control and guide the rubbers that have never surfed,the ones causing the most issues are the beginner supsurfers,they just paddle out and paddle for anything without knowing the way it is.btw brooko how is that guy going that cut the dogs throat at the kids birthday party
Its Easy If you're learning to SUP stay wide, pick of what you can as you get better move in closer to the main peck.
When you buy a SUP you don't get a tattoo that says I'm a pussy and everyone can walk on me!!!! Just show some respect when needed, don't be a wave hog all the time (yes i know I'm a hog) if you do something wrong apologize for it and move on. If you run over some one **** HAPPENS people do it every day normal surfing just check to see if they are OK and tell them next time they should paddle out of the way
Remember the ocean is FREE
Most of the time its too much hassle sit in the pack of surfers and much more enjoyable sitting out wide talking to mates
Jacko
This is a very important post. For a beginner gumby like me, it has been a real eye opener. Thanks for the information.
In other forums, I have seen a 'stickies' classification make a topic - that is important enough - stay at the top of the list (like posting rules). Not sure whether its appropriate to make that call on this forum (one for Laurie), but keeping this particular etiquette topic in front of mind at all times would be a good thing.
Finally, I was at a popular surfing/body boarding/body surfing/family beach spot on the weekend down past Mandurah, and I was surprised to see two guys on SUPs right in the thick of it. They basically enforced a 25m clear zone either side of themselves, because, well, its clearly mad to get in the way of a SUP. Another 200m down the beach, and they would have had the break to themselves.
At a crowded multi-use beach break, with kids and everybody in the water, I thought it was pretty unkool, even if they were doing an impressive job of catching waves and getting back out through the white water. Based on this, I can see SUP surfers getting an increasingly unfriendly response as the sport grows, the numbers of SUPs increases, and the skill level of the riders in the surf becomes more variable. It all points to the need for a clear code that everybody knows - and people can be referred to.
I just about agree with everything that has been brought up including Brookos view. What I have found is that SUP has given me the freedom to get away from these packs and discover waves I have never been able to reach before. I would sacrifice quality for numbers.
I do find it strange why some SUPers will paddle out into crowded lineups when there is so much more open to our kind.
I'm trying to be mindful that this new sport gets a good name.
Div
Why is SUP'ing singled out from other surf crafts Why BECAUSE ITS NEW to our shores I've had enough ,all this talk about,HEY MOVE DOWN THE LINE crap! You tell me way Why should someone have to as Jacko said the ocean is FREE right or do some of you pay an entry fee (think not)!
Its all about RESPECT ALL and ENJOY and SHARE,not hard to do,otherwise take up another sport ,like BOXING and knock yourself out 
Sure if your a kook stay away from the main pack,but if you have the skills,GO FOR IT [}:)] mix it up with the other surf crafts! 
Geez, here I am sticking up for SUP'ers (my second love) Longboarding being number one! Remember RESPECT and the ocean is FREE
rant over mac 
Hmmm.... so maybe it was kool?
Even if, of the prime beach frontage in front of the carpark, say 12 or so shortboarders and assorted go for it body boarders took up 80m next to the rocks, then the two SUPers took up the next 50m plus (for wave after wave), then all the grommet bodyboarders and mum and dad body surfers straggled out for the next 100m?
Looked sort of inequitable to me. Just struck me that way. Seemed like the SUPers needed lots of room.
I believe that because we are standing up constantly we stick out like dog nuts.
Therefore if u do something you stick out from the crowd and everyone see it.
I love watching all the gumbys at Alley go over the falls and clean up each other on mals it quite entertaining, and no one really thinks much of it.
But if someone was to go and do that on a SUP everyone would be having a whinge.
thats what i have said to these clowns a few times
I have only lived here a bit over 12 months after moving here from margaret river ( crowd capitol) and margies is a lot better and mellower than here, so im still not "local". Its the average surfer kook with the tough guy attitude. I dont take ** no matter what Im doing, so it will come to a head at some stage, some people need to be taught respect[}:)]
Oh and by the way firstpoint I would personally like to invite that loser around to try and cut my dogs throat at a kids birthday party, see how long he has a hand
Oh and while Im having a rant about this same place, Div what about the time you had rocks throwing at you by the "tough locals" because you and your mate were surfing well... try throwing a rock at me, I dare you
well said jacko mac brooko ben dover
it doesn't matter what surf craft your riding
just try and respect everyone in the line up as equals and have some fun as thats what where all out there for
but if your getting yelled at by the dominant silver back male gorilla its a good idea to acknowledge them and keep your distance but dont go crawling into a dark hole as some of the best sessions I've had (lennox, noosa) have been tainted with the odd bit of crap but don't let that **** get to you
dogman
great discussion with varying attitudes,brooko,that idea of shortboarding for winter would put you right back in the frey,i bet they wont say a word when your 104kg is sitting next to them,that sort of tosser is mostly mouth,ive only had to get involved in annies confrontations a couple of times,i let her sort out the droppins and snakes but pull it up at verbal abuse.the toughies will hassle a 48 kg very capable surfer chick but wont say it or do it to me.we find the city folk bring bad hassly attitude to noosa,thinking they have to paddle up the inside and hook into the next set,they just get burnt,now sup is in the equasion its dynamics have changed,a good supsurfer can take off deeper and further out by a good way,it is going to piss off the hero's,but when the kooks try the same stuff on a sup,well thats a different story
great discussion with varying attitudes,brooko,that idea of shortboarding for winter would put you right back in the frey,i bet they wont say a word when your 104kg is sitting next to them,that sort of tosser is mostly mouth,ive only had to get involved in annies confrontations a couple of times,i let her sort out the droppins and snakes but pull it up at verbal abuse.the toughies will hassle a 48 kg very capable surfer chick but wont say it or do it to me.we find the city folk bring bad hassly attitude to noosa,thinking they have to paddle up the inside and hook into the next set,they just get burnt,now sup is in the equasion its dynamics have changed,a good supsurfer can take off deeper and further out by a good way,it is going to piss off the hero's,but when the kooks try the same stuff on a sup,well thats a different story She would not have been out in the waves we were in the other day, way to big for her but It would be a real different story if someone started ruining her day , the tolerance level from me would be zero[}:)]
i found in the early days of annie longboarding,the guys just didnt give her respect so i had to step up occasionally,now she goes real good she has earned her own respect and it will only be the odd out of towner that will take her on,surf etiquette can also go on body size as you know,sup is a little different cos we can compete with the crew and just taking it a little easy on them makes it a bit better but if you have a couple of mouths you might have to show one the machiavelli technique,RESPECT BY FEAR
edumacative - s'kool
a great benefit of SUP might just be the ability to get away from all that - to go over the falls in peace and solitude
perseverance furthers
The entitlement attitude of some short and long boarders is a real pain. Generally everyone can get on with each other IMHO. Just follow the basic rules.
On crowded days, I apply the 80/20 rule - 80% of the waves are usually being caught by 20% of the people out there. And those 20% are usually the ones who are out there all the time anyway and they know what they are doing. Of course some of that 20% can get pretty feral - but they'd be like that anyway if there were only 5 out in the line-up.
Given the choice I will go out and see what I can get - preferring to have a paddle down the beach rather than go home and not go out at all.
I didn't fork out the money to have my SUP sitting in the shed because the fun police said it shouldn't be allowed in the water.
It all comes down to respect for each other and following the basic rules that apply to all out in the line-up. Why be intimidated and not at least try?
I just want to add a tiny comment about how easy it is for us newby SUPers to find a quiet spot to ourselves. On the day this pic was taken there must have been at least 50 in the water and yet I was able to find a spot all to myself. There were two surf school groups + a whole bunch of ordinary blokes to the north and and another big bunch to the south, but with a SUP I could happily grab the little bank in between. I wish I had a photo of how crowded the beach was when I arrived: I nearly wasn't going to go in as this was my first time out without hubby! Daughter took a whole bunch of pics and this is the only one that has others in the background so it is not that hard to find fun waves to ourselves.
I would also like to add that the vibe is very different for girls than guys. When I go out and paddle past the mob there is often (not always though) a friendly smile, but I note that when hubby paddles by there is quite often a look of contempt (and he is a very considerate SUPer as he has been on a short board for the last 30 years).
He has drilled it into me that we must always try to find a spot away from the pack and if there isn't one, then we hop on the end of the line and take the leftovers! That way I can never crash into anyone LOL!!! We can catch so many waves on these things that what we loose in quality we make up for with quantity.
Molly.... It's a pity about "the Spot", but they can have it.
With fear of self contradiction, surfing that place is just not worth the hassle whatever you are riding - victory to the idiots. You'd have to be Danny Green (professional boxer and surfer) to be able to stare down the crew up there and they'd still try to wreck your car.
Those locals epitomise the entitlement attitude I mentioned before.
Worked down the Tweed today,and popped up to Snapper to see whats doing on the surf front. 3 foot sets out wide and around 50 shortboarders out and about 10 mal riders! I watched everyone dropping in on each other , the first thing that came to mind was this topic!It was dog eat dog,hey but thats Snapper etiquette,sorry none!
mac
