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The secret is out.

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Created by DavidJohn > 9 months ago, 27 Aug 2010
DavidJohn
VIC, 17510 posts
27 Aug 2010 4:31PM
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The secret is out about the new 'secret' 14' Starboard.. Introducing.. Mr Big Nose .. .. It looks good.. It looks fast.

More pics and vid to come.

DJ







planesailing
WA, 380 posts
27 Aug 2010 2:40PM
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I will most likely cop some sh1t for this but...........
"why don't you just get a canoe".
sorry this doesn't appeal to me at all.

Lobes
885 posts
27 Aug 2010 2:46PM
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Dimensions, weight, construction?

Oh yeah and price $$$ ?

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
27 Aug 2010 4:47PM
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planesailing said...

I will most likely cop some sh1t for this but...........
"why don't you just get a canoe".
sorry this doesn't appeal to me at all.


Why don't you just leave your paddle behind and go surfing? Why do you need such a long board? etc.

On the flip side, never bring a knife to a gun fight.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
27 Aug 2010 5:15PM
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planesailing said...

I will most likely cop some sh1t for this but...........
"why don't you just get a canoe".
sorry this doesn't appeal to me at all.


i actually think its pretty tame in regards to looking like a canoe, which brings me to a point that i have changed my mind about this year. dw boards aren't surfboards,so imo people should stop comparing them to surfboards
cheers

JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
27 Aug 2010 5:37PM
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Dimensions - 14' x 28"
Construction - Full Carbon
Weight - don't know yet but light
Cost - Carbon about $3500 and I think the epoxy about a grand less

Sorry planesailing, it's not nearly as canoe like as a lot of this style of board, in the flesh the thing is a weapon - a slightly strange weapon but definitely a weapon. These boards aren't designed to "look good" , they are designed to perform as well as possible in the conditions they are designed for. They aren't made to "appeal" they are made to perform. You need to have a go at down winding one day, it's incredibly good fun.

Complex bottom shape of narrow double concaves with a flat section in the middle where you stand going back to a V in the tail also with concaves.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
27 Aug 2010 5:39PM
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laceys lane said...

planesailing said...

I will most likely cop some sh1t for this but...........
"why don't you just get a canoe".
sorry this doesn't appeal to me at all.


dw boards aren't surfboards,so imo people should stop comparing them to surfboards
cheers




THIS.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
27 Aug 2010 5:41PM
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Nice !! Too balmy and sunny in Melbourne for the beanie Jonathan !!??

Without seeing it in person, it looks like it might be a good all rounder, between DW, Flat, and Point to Point.

Looking at it, it could be quicker than the 14 Naish in the flats. And down wind is all about runners, and I'm sure it is good at that also.... (???)

Where's the fin positioned ? It might even be quite surfable in tiny waves...

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
27 Aug 2010 3:47PM
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planesailing said...

I will most likely cop some sh1t for this but...........
"why don't you just get a canoe".
sorry this doesn't appeal to me at all.


Just put an electric out board on the back and you are done, they look more and more like boats with each new model

JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
27 Aug 2010 5:49PM
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Yeah balmy here Simondo, and you know someone said my nose looks big when I wear a beany, now DJ has told the world....

Introducing.. Mr Big Nose ..

Me and the new board are getting a bit of a complex

I think it will be a great all rounder, much flatter rocker than the 14 Glide and the volume in the nose will mean that it will never pearl. Fin is not crazy far forward, I think it would surf little waves no problem.

taranakiter
35 posts
27 Aug 2010 3:59PM
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Paddling is a sport and is as old as standing UP on a log or on your dugout when your arse got to sore. we have come a long way to these beautifully functionall logs. I have a 14glide slightly used because of winter, lots of surf and the trouble and strife but that board does look easy on the eye to a paddler. Interesting for sure.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
27 Aug 2010 6:11PM
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JonathanC said...

Yeah balmy here Simondo, and you know someone said my nose looks big when I wear a beany, now DJ has told the world....

Introducing.. Mr Big Nose ..

Me and the new board are getting a bit of a complex

I think it will be a great all rounder, much flatter rocker than the 14 Glide and the volume in the nose will mean that it will never pearl. Fin is not crazy far forward, I think it would surf little waves no problem.



hi jonathan, would you like to put a little wager on that- it will never pearl
cheers

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
27 Aug 2010 6:37PM
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doggie said...

Just put an electric out board on the back and you are done, they look more and more like boats with each new model



You could try one of your short boards on a downwinder but I don't imagine it would work so well.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
27 Aug 2010 6:40PM
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JonathanC said...

Introducing.. Mr Big Nose ..

Me and the new board are getting a bit of a complex




Re that board, the name calling could be much worse as you yourself have observed.

JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
27 Aug 2010 6:50PM
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laceys lane said...
hi jonathan, would you like to put a little wager on that- it will never pearl
cheers


Actually it did cross my mind that saying that was asking for trouble Lets change it to "unlikely to pearl"

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
27 Aug 2010 5:18PM
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Complex bottom shape of narrow double concaves with a flat section in the middle where you stand going back to a V in the tail also with concaves.

Why?

JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
27 Aug 2010 7:29PM
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Legion said...

Complex bottom shape of narrow double concaves with a flat section in the middle where you stand going back to a V in the tail also with concaves.

Why?




Maybe that wasn't clear - flat section of about 150mm running longitudinally down the middle of the board, on each side of the flat is a concave. So about the middle 6 feet of the board is double concave with a flat in the middle of the concaves.

Just in front of the fin it goes into a V with slight double concaves running all the way to the tail.



lagoongarage
58 posts
27 Aug 2010 5:38PM
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Nice board,
Jonathan is a lucky guy.
The design looks like a mix of a Surfrace and a Freerace.
Is it the 0001 serial number ?

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
27 Aug 2010 5:40PM
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Whats with the colour of that thing, what 2 or 3 grand or whatever that thing is so uglyLooks like something in a panel shop pre paint

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
27 Aug 2010 8:12PM
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62Mac,
It's all about performance and saving weight, by saving paint.... I don't mind it.... I take your point though!
Simon

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
27 Aug 2010 8:24PM
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i would like to know how stiff that board is in the ocean. i imagine those rail/ beams would make the board really strong, ie- less shutter

camo hosk
VIC, 613 posts
27 Aug 2010 8:43PM
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Can't wait to see how this board goes Jonathan , especially after how well the K15 went for you on the Stkilda to Sandy run, looks like your expected to stay mostly in the same area of the board with the short length of the deck pad in the pictures,guess I'll still hope for a cross wind though,
cheers.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
27 Aug 2010 6:48PM
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JonathanC said...

Legion said...

Complex bottom shape of narrow double concaves with a flat section in the middle where you stand going back to a V in the tail also with concaves.

Why?




Maybe that wasn't clear - flat section of about 150mm running longitudinally down the middle of the board, on each side of the flat is a concave. So about the middle 6 feet of the board is double concave with a flat in the middle of the concaves.

Just in front of the fin it goes into a V with slight double concaves running all the way to the tail.

No, I got what you wrote. I'm curious why those design elements?

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
27 Aug 2010 9:09PM
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62mac said...

Whats with the colour of that thing, what 2 or 3 grand or whatever that thing is so uglyLooks like something in a panel shop pre paint


That's the idea - it's meant to look like it's straight out of the workshop, like a blueprint, custom job, hotrod. They have painted over the carbon fibre and then rubbed it back to reduce weight and expose the big selling point - the carbon fibre. This board is light as air. Or at least the 12'6" version is, I imagine the 14' will be much the same. You can get the heavier AST version in blue stripe, which looks much better in a classical sense, with a thorough paint covering, but that's missing the point.



nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
27 Aug 2010 7:58PM
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62mac said...

Whats with the colour of that thing, what 2 or 3 grand or whatever that thing is so uglyLooks like something in a panel shop pre paint


That's the current fashion in windsurfing (where starboard is massive).

Prototypes look like this, so everyone wants something that looks like they're friends with the worlds best shaper. Personally I don't buy it, I like my boards to look like they've gotten past the 0.2 release

Fashions come and go.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
27 Aug 2010 8:18PM
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What's the purpose of painting then rubbing back? If you want it to look like cf, why not not paint it and leave it full cf? That'd look great (but hot). Or use a layer of Innegra, for the "ghost carbon" look.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
27 Aug 2010 8:40PM
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Simondo said...

62Mac,
It's all about performance and saving weight, by saving paint.... I don't mind it.... I take your point though!
Simon


Hi there Simondo, if that's the only reason as in keeping the weight down Starboard have some serious issues in there design department.
It may be a fast board but first impressions are important and the new person would choose something else.

Would you buy a brand new car tomorrow with undercoat or pick the shiny one,it will take a good sales person to sell in volume.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
27 Aug 2010 8:44PM
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nebbian said...

62mac said...

Whats with the colour of that thing, what 2 or 3 grand or whatever that thing is so uglyLooks like something in a panel shop pre paint


That's the current fashion in windsurfing (where starboard is massive).

Prototypes look like this, so everyone wants something that looks like they're friends with the worlds best shaper. Personally I don't buy it, I like my boards to look like they've gotten past the 0.2 release

Fashions come and go.


Yes it does,just like the burnt orange Holden and how quick did that colour stay in voguea year at most

planesailing
WA, 380 posts
27 Aug 2010 9:23PM
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Yes, Orange Purple and Grannysmith Green. are colours that just keep
coming back to haunt us....over and over and over. Just ask the designers
at HOLDEN and FORD.
NO SERIOUS, my question was why not paddle a canoe, you would have somewhere
to put the power bars, gatorade and spare clothing and safety gear.
Question... is this new design hollow ? does it have a pressure relief screw? I can see
some problems if you leave it in the sun with soo much volume of air in an airtight
space.

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
28 Aug 2010 7:55AM
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Why are race boards starting to look like canoes?

The answers obvious. While people believed we had to re-invent the wheel with this 'new' sport common sense eventually prevailed and people realised that the DNA strands of SUP distance paddling in particular are about one degree (the bit where you stand up) different to Paddling canoes with single blades ie Outrigger Canoes.

Up here Jacko has been paddling an OC1, Lacey just bought one, all of the Roar crew are trying and even racing them. Roar is starting to sell them even. Just as in Hawaii people move freely between these sports and benefit from each in the other. It is only logical therefore that the designs of the new SUP boards dip into canoe design with an extra helping of Prone paddle board design for good measure. They are faster afterall.

I have been saying it for a while but I think the OC1 craze that has swept Cali and Hawaii is yet to hit Australia in its entirety and I think those that like distance SUP paddling are likely initial cross overs (and back and over and back).

Newmo
VIC, 471 posts
28 Aug 2010 9:47AM
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Nice looking board
It looks slick and should go like a rocket.
Cheers Scott



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