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The way of the future

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Created by JOYRIDER > 9 months ago, 10 Aug 2010
JOYRIDER
705 posts
10 Aug 2010 7:01PM
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could this be the way of the future

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
10 Aug 2010 9:08PM
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geez i hope not.

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
10 Aug 2010 7:15PM
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JOYRIDER said...
could this be the way of the future


very gay

Saw a guy trying this at my local very embarrassing. He tended to just go over the falls.

MickV
VIC, 188 posts
10 Aug 2010 9:21PM
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Not my future.....

boarder paul
1952 posts
10 Aug 2010 7:22PM
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Im imbarased just watching such a stupid thing, what the heck was that

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
10 Aug 2010 7:26PM
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Kind of what knee boarding is to surfing, an insult

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
10 Aug 2010 9:33PM
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you saying that's not how it's done, i mean um, how stupid is that_________ pew

PT SUP
117 posts
10 Aug 2010 7:40PM
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Bringing a different sought of craft into our crowded surf breaks,probably catch more waves,maybe upset the status quo of the long time regulars at said surf spots.

The guys got to be crazy

JOYRIDER
705 posts
11 Aug 2010 6:59AM
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The pilot in questions indentity would suprise many of you.

I think its a result of many dislocated shoulders from a long and joyful windsurf carreer. (i beleave he can't paddle with a normal paddle).

it works tho.

billboard
QLD, 2816 posts
11 Aug 2010 9:47AM
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62mac said...

Kind of what knee boarding is to surfing, an insult



FYI - just forwarded your number on to George Greenough - said he might call into the shop for a chat

billboard
QLD, 2816 posts
11 Aug 2010 9:49AM
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JOYRIDER said...

The pilot in questions indentity would suprise many of you.

I think its a result of many dislocated shoulders from a long and joyful windsurf carreer. (i beleave he can't paddle with a normal paddle).

it works tho.




I can almost guarantee that someone on the goldy will be trying this next week to see how small a board they can ride

angie pangi
QLD, 1779 posts
11 Aug 2010 10:12AM
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Why?

Xx angie

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
11 Aug 2010 10:18AM
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We get called 'Stand Up Goatboaters' anyway. This just confirms our ties.

Many people I know believe SUP in the surf will go a similar way to Goat Boats, popular at first and then die a slow death to return to regular surfing. I wonder how many Eggbeaters I mean Goatboaters went on to Ocean Ski's looking for downwind runs? It is also no surprise to me that so many wind assisted guys have gained assistance from a paddle as well and that SUP is so popular with these guys.

An interesting anecdote to this is tow-in surfing. Due to the obvious madness that prevailed many of the true big wave guys are pulling back out their 10'6 and 11'0 guns to take on the huge outer reefs. I was talking to a guy in NZ this morning who is even trying to source blanks for his team rider (one of NZ's nutties big wave guys) as he and his tow partner are putting away the ski to take it au natarale.

I love my SUP in the surf but the more the crowds grow the less I want to do it and ride my normal boards.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17461 posts
11 Aug 2010 10:19AM
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Looks more like 'The way of the past'..

DJ

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
11 Aug 2010 10:30AM
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Or is the Future?

Blane Chambers, very early pre PSH experimentation. In this post on swaylocks he said he prefers a shorter paddle. http://www2.swaylocks.com/node/1019025#254804

With a short paddle we can kneel down and ride a very short board with the faster cadence of stroke catch waves easier and require less stability. Is that the future???



doggie
WA, 15849 posts
11 Aug 2010 9:38AM
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CMC said...

Or is the Future?

Blane Chambers, very early pre PSH experimentation. In this post on swaylocks he said he prefers a shorter paddle. http://www2.swaylocks.com/node/1019025#254804

With a short paddle we can kneel down and ride a very short board with the faster cadence of stroke catch waves easier and require less stability. Is that the future???






IMO that looks better than SUP, I take it you stand up when u get the on the wave?

OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
11 Aug 2010 12:10PM
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If the guy in question can only get onto a wave like that due to previous injury then in my opinion do what you have to / need to do, dont give a hoot what people say! Just getting back in the water anyway you can must be a huge relief to you

If its an attempt at a new form of suping then sorry doesnt get my vote

Phill

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
11 Aug 2010 2:48PM
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doggie said...

CMC said...

Or is the Future?

Blane Chambers, very early pre PSH experimentation. In this post on swaylocks he said he prefers a shorter paddle. http://www2.swaylocks.com/node/1019025#254804

With a short paddle we can kneel down and ride a very short board with the faster cadence of stroke catch waves easier and require less stability. Is that the future???






IMO that looks better than SUP, I take it you stand up when u get the on the wave?




i will paddle out on my knees if i'm getting smashed, i would rather go quicker getting back out using a paddle than prone paddling. some guys refuse point blank to knee paddle. even though it feels dicky paddling on your knees- i know it's the fastest way out of the impact zone. a prone paddle is good for rest ie give those legs and paddling muscles a break, when the wind is very strong or messy water
cheers
cheers

JOYRIDER
705 posts
11 Aug 2010 3:41PM
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CMC said...

We get called 'Stand Up Goatboaters' anyway. This just confirms our ties.

Many people I know believe SUP in the surf will go a similar way to Goat Boats, popular at first and then die a slow death to return to regular surfing. I wonder how many Eggbeaters I mean Goatboaters went on to Ocean Ski's looking for downwind runs? It is also no surprise to me that so many wind assisted guys have gained assistance from a paddle as well and that SUP is so popular with these guys.

An interesting anecdote to this is tow-in surfing. Due to the obvious madness that prevailed many of the true big wave guys are pulling back out their 10'6 and 11'0 guns to take on the huge outer reefs. I was talking to a guy in NZ this morning who is even trying to source blanks for his team rider (one of NZ's nutties big wave guys) as he and his tow partner are putting away the ski to take it au natarale.

I love my SUP in the surf but the more the crowds grow the less I want to do it and ride my normal boards.


I think the real point of a SUP "according to robbie naish C/- naish website" is that you can explore new waves that paddle in surfers cant'
if the respect and ideals stay the same then there shouldnt be any problem with SUP's in the line up. Just dont be snake and share the waves and we are all good.

FYI the sitter in question is prob one of australias best watermen, windsurf-kite-SUP-paddleboard and shortboard. do what you want

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
11 Aug 2010 3:44PM
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62mac said...

Kind of what knee boarding is to surfing, an insult


Gee red thumb for that, hmm must have ticked off a closet knee'r

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
11 Aug 2010 5:53PM
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Mac,

I'm a bit of a Greenough fan, his nice riding on long point breaks, and input into design, especially nice single fins....

But I didn't add any red thumbs !

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
11 Aug 2010 6:06PM
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Simondo said...

Mac,

I'm a bit of a Greenough fan, his nice riding on long point breaks, and input into design, especially nice single fins....

But I didn't add any red thumbs !


I have an article in a Surfers Journal here that describes a session by Greenough in early Califirnia which he was riding the barrell, projecting from the bottom and doing roundhouse cutbacks. This was on a kneeboard and may not sound remarkable but this was before surfboards were below 9' long with wooden keel fins and trimmed straight. It says it was like watching colour TV when everything else was black and white.

His design innvations with the Dolphin shaped fin changed surfing from that point onwards. Hull designs, planing hulls vs displacement etc etc. Greenoughs knowledge forms a major piece of the puzzle.

shunter
WA, 441 posts
11 Aug 2010 4:33PM
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I can just see it now in the lineup.

The SUPer glaring at the sitdown paddler
The longboarders glaring at the SUper and SITer
The Boggers glaring at the LONGer, SUPer and SITer
The Crawlers Glaring at the BOGGer, LONGer, SUPer and SITer

Bingo cheers, the knee boarder and the clown suit wearing rubber mat rider are sharing a joint on the beach and laughing at everyone and wondering how they can get enough money together to buy a packet of tim tams.

No one owns the waves and everyone has the right to choose what they ride as long as they abide by the rules whats the big deal ? Enjoy the surf while you can in anyway that you can.

Peace luv and mungbeans .....

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
11 Aug 2010 7:16PM
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Oh no, I have to come clean here. I know I'm in for a motherload of a kicking here but anyway, here goes. This is a great way to surf, it makes the not so good bits easier and the good bits even better. Knee paddling with a kayak paddle allows this 51 yo kook to paddle out easier and faster, turn to catch the wave easier and earlier and allows me to use a board that my ****ty balance and old bones really should have no right to . The boards I'm using at the moment are a PSH 9/6 as a do all surfer, a 7/11 homemade and a 6/10 homemade. I'm an unfit 95 kg that gets to surf maybe once per fortnight so making life easier and catching waves are the priority here and knee paddling is a perfect way to get that maximum enjoyment/ minimum effort formula just right. Anyhow where's the love guys?

boarder paul
1952 posts
11 Aug 2010 5:34PM
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If in heavy chop i often paddle on knees on the way out, Saves getting bucked off
But i have also paddled into waves this way in the same conditions, Its great but i find i loose a lot of the wave by the time i get up and put the paddle out of the way.

And its a killer in the ankles

I would not discount the short board and short paddle as it looks fun and is near what knee surfing is for a start anyway.

I would do it if it went that way but i would hope to have two or three boards and just the one for this knee paddle. The log paddle of now days is a pain if trying to or you have to kneel due to chop or crap conditions.
I was out last week in such conditions and was bucked off a lot and i was on my knees, But it was the big bannana so on a short board i dont think it would of been a issue

JOYRIDER
705 posts
11 Aug 2010 6:11PM
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62mac said...

62mac said...

Kind of what knee boarding is to surfing, an insult


Gee red thumb for that, hmm must have ticked off a closet knee'r


Hey mate, if you look back into history greenough was a kneeboarder and many of is kneeboard inovations became standard stand up surfboard design features.
Why do people have to me nazi's. I could say your a wanka cos you ride a longboard but i wont,
if your on the water, laying down-standing up-wind or paddle power, chances are your there for the same reason as everyone else.
Get over it and lets all enjoy it.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
12 Aug 2010 4:26PM
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JOYRIDER said...

62mac said...

62mac said...

Kind of what knee boarding is to surfing, an insult


Gee red thumb for that, hmm must have ticked off a closet knee'r


Hey mate, if you look back into history greenough was a kneeboarder and many of is kneeboard inovations became standard stand up surfboard design features.
Why do people have to me nazi's. I could say your a wanka cos you ride a longboard but i wont,
if your on the water, laying down-standing up-wind or paddle power, chances are your there for the same reason as everyone else.
Get over it and lets all enjoy it.




Hi there JOYRIDER, my comment was a joke so maybe you need to lighten the f-ck up
Oh I dont need a history lesson and I am well aware who GG is and his outstanding contribution to surfing Oh ,call me a wanka for riding a longboard,shortboard and yes a sup,if that makes you feel better PS I only here to enjoy,hope you get some cracking waves, sounds like you need some

JOYRIDER
705 posts
12 Aug 2010 4:32PM
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my point, mate, is that whatever you ride, if it gets you on the water im happy.

kite/windsurf/goatboat/sup or boogie.
enjoy share and love it!

GizzieNZ
4102 posts
12 Aug 2010 4:59PM
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billboard said...

62mac said...

Kind of what knee boarding is to surfing, an insult



FYI - just forwarded your number on to George Greenough - said he might call into the shop for a chat


I remember when I was a kneeboarder (& used to tell people it was like a different concept of surfing where you're lowdown & closer to the essential ying yang of the wave)
Of course when on kneeboard you gotta try for the biggest baddest waves or else

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
12 Aug 2010 9:40PM
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shunter said...
.... Enjoy the surf while you can in anyway that you can.

Peace luv and mungbeans .....


Right on brother.



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