Forums > Stand Up Paddle General

Timber SUP

Reply
Created by Clarky > 9 months ago, 11 Jul 2011
Clarky
QLD, 290 posts
11 Jul 2011 7:12PM
Thumbs Up

I have had a go at making a hollow wooden SUP. I have finished the construction of it, now it is ready for glassing. I was thinking of doing 1 layer of 6 oz top and bottom, does anyone have an opinion weather that is enough.

Here is a few pics, the construction of the skeleton is on a different camera that I will post later







doggie
WA, 15849 posts
11 Jul 2011 5:15PM
Thumbs Up

I would put a patch of 6oz where you stand and maybe around the rails where you might hit it with the paddle.

Nice job mate, more picks after the glass would be very nice

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
11 Jul 2011 7:19PM
Thumbs Up

nice, i got shown a couple of photos this morning

is it true you made your own ribs/templates? ie no patterns

and whats it weigh at the moment

cheers

gregc
VIC, 1298 posts
11 Jul 2011 7:45PM
Thumbs Up

I dont know about what glass job is appropriate but bloody hell it looks beautiful

Clarky
QLD, 290 posts
11 Jul 2011 7:46PM
Thumbs Up

Yeh makes slot of sense to reinforce where I stand, I might run an extra layer from handle to tail. Yeh Lacey, I designed to templates myself, it wasn't that hard I designed the board in aku shaper then spliced it every 6 inches, printed out splices than subtracted rails and top and bottom thickness. Not sure of weight yet, I'll weigh it after glassing.

MIKO
QLD, 408 posts
11 Jul 2011 7:51PM
Thumbs Up

hey rocket, to much time on your hands on school hollies eh
never seen 30 odd clamps on a job in one go
Board is gonna look great cant wait to see the finished product.
as for your q id think that 6 and 6 should be enough

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
11 Jul 2011 8:21PM
Thumbs Up

Clarky said...

Yeh makes slot of sense to reinforce where I stand, I might run an extra layer from handle to tail. Yeh Lacey, I designed to templates myself, it wasn't that hard I designed the board in aku shaper then spliced it every 6 inches, printed out splices than subtracted rails and top and bottom thickness. Not sure of weight yet, I'll weigh it after glassing.


ahh, that's pretty clever

cheers

Adapt
QLD, 723 posts
11 Jul 2011 11:31PM
Thumbs Up

Nice looking board Clarky! Looking forward to seeing the finished product and finding out how much it weighs.

thommo 000
1670 posts
11 Jul 2011 9:59PM
Thumbs Up

Top job mate well done, are you going to seal it before glassing to stop the resin from soaking in....?

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
12 Jul 2011 6:59AM
Thumbs Up

i love wood,looking forward to the end result.

sharpie
NSW, 347 posts
12 Jul 2011 7:47AM
Thumbs Up

sweet looking lump of wood, thommo,s got a good point on the tak coat before glassing, but looking at what you,ve done so far you really know what you,r doing.

Towny
NSW, 903 posts
12 Jul 2011 1:24PM
Thumbs Up

C'mon boys,Timber it is, As an apprentice carpenter i got it drilled into me that you work with timber and burn wood..

Clarky
QLD, 290 posts
12 Jul 2011 6:42PM
Thumbs Up

thommo 000 said...

Top job mate well done, are you going to seal it before glassing to stop the resin from soaking in....?


Did the laminating layers today, I didn't seal as I was told paulownia does not absorb resin. I mixed up the same amount of resin as I have done when glassing polystyrene and I had just under half left over. That foam must really suck it in.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
12 Jul 2011 7:48PM
Thumbs Up

Towny said...

C'mon boys,Timber it is, As an apprentice carpenter i got it drilled into me that you work with timber and burn wood..


haha, yeah i remember hearing that one a lot myself as an a/c

latman
QLD, 177 posts
13 Jul 2011 11:19PM
Thumbs Up

doggie said...

I would put a patch of 6oz where you stand and maybe around the rails where you might hit it with the paddle.

Nice job mate, more picks after the glass would be very nice


the bottom glass will wrap around the rail and double the thickness there , or do you suggest 3 layers ?

latman
QLD, 177 posts
13 Jul 2011 11:20PM
Thumbs Up

Clarky said...
Did the laminating layers today, I didn't seal as I was told paulownia does not absorb resin. I mixed up the same amount of resin as I have done when glassing polystyrene and I had just under half left over. That foam must really suck it in.


Did you use regular polyester resin ?

latman
QLD, 177 posts
13 Jul 2011 11:33PM
Thumbs Up

Clarky said...
Did the laminating layers today, I didn't seal as I was told paulownia does not absorb resin. I mixed up the same amount of resin as I have done when glassing polystyrene and I had just under half left over. That foam must really suck it in.


I guess when glassing foam all the open cells must be filled too ,I have heard Paulownia is an oily timber and epoxy sticks best ?


DavidJohn
VIC, 17460 posts
13 Jul 2011 11:48PM
Thumbs Up

Check this out in case you want to get fancy.

http://www.waubrey-art.com/WoodBoats.htm

DJ

Clarky
QLD, 290 posts
14 Jul 2011 6:19AM
Thumbs Up

Hey Lats I used kinetix epoxy resin for the lay up and will be using polyester resin for the filler and gloss coats. I used 1 layer of 6 oz on bottom and 1 and I/2 layers on top so yes on most of my rails I have 3 layers after the wrap.

Hey DJ unbelievable looking kayaks makesy board pale in comparison, I wouldn't have they patience to even attempt something like that.

latman
QLD, 177 posts
14 Jul 2011 10:31AM
Thumbs Up

Clarky said...

Hey Lats I used kinetix epoxy resin for the lay up and will be using polyester resin for the filler and gloss coats. I used 1 layer of 6 oz on bottom and 1 and I/2 layers on top so yes on most of my rails I have 3 layers after the wrap.

Hey DJ unbelievable looking kayaks makesy board pale in comparison, I wouldn't have they patience to even attempt something like that.


There are big issues making the poly resin adhere to the epoxy (despite what ATL says), you may be better off using more kinetix for the filler (make sure there is no amine blush trapped in the laminate layer), then sand that and spray clear two pack urethane to get the gloss. Certainly some timber boards are fuly glassed in polyester for clarity and ease of glossing up (i would do that for a wall board) but it can/will delaminate off in use and be a disaster to try and fix.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Jul 2011 10:39AM
Thumbs Up

latman said...

doggie said...

I would put a patch of 6oz where you stand and maybe around the rails where you might hit it with the paddle.

Nice job mate, more picks after the glass would be very nice


the bottom glass will wrap around the rail and double the thickness there , or do you suggest 3 layers ?




Yea that would do I recon, some clear tape on the rails would protect it when finished, but do you want to put tape over your art work?
If you arnt going to use it for surfing it wont matter I wouldnt think just for cruising.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
14 Jul 2011 4:08PM
Thumbs Up

Hey Clarky, As a joiner, I always wanted to build a timber boat - you've motivated me to start small...timber sup it is (as soon as I've finished all my other projects!)

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Jul 2011 2:31PM
Thumbs Up

I wonder if you could keep the weight down for a hollow shortboard?

How much does it weigh as it is now?

shunter
WA, 441 posts
14 Jul 2011 3:55PM
Thumbs Up



Very nice hollow timber SUP there clarky

doggie,

my 6'6" hollow timber fish weighs in at ~5kgs. This has 6mm timber decks and 6oz glass and patches its heavy but the weight disapears in the water. The other board is a 6'2" fish with 2.5mm timber skins over polystrene this is lighter than a poly board and supper strong



doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Jul 2011 3:58PM
Thumbs Up

shunter said...



Very nice hollow timber SUP there clarky

doggie,

my 6'6" hollow timber fish weighs in at ~5kgs. This has 6mm timber decks and 6oz glass and patches its heavy but the weight disapears in the water. The other board is a 6'2" fish with 2.5mm timber skins over polystrene this is lighter than a poly board and supper strong






Very nice, I wonder how much my PU shorties weigh?

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
14 Jul 2011 6:09PM
Thumbs Up

Your shorty is probably 2.5 to 2.8 kg. A team 6'1 one layer of 4 each side with ultra lite foam in PU is 2.25. Easy to do lighter in EPS but do not surf well.

I would love to make a wooden board, the laminated boards are easily made and probably more performance based.


doggie said...

shunter said...



Very nice hollow timber SUP there clarky

doggie,

my 6'6" hollow timber fish weighs in at ~5kgs. This has 6mm timber decks and 6oz glass and patches its heavy but the weight disapears in the water. The other board is a 6'2" fish with 2.5mm timber skins over polystrene this is lighter than a poly board and supper strong






Very nice, I wonder how much my PU shorties weigh?


doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Jul 2011 4:34PM
Thumbs Up

CMC said...

Your shorty is probably 2.5 to 2.8 kg. A team 6'1 one layer of 4 each side with ultra lite foam in PU is 2.25. Easy to do lighter in EPS but do not surf well.

I would love to make a wooden board, the laminated boards are easily made and probably more performance based.


doggie said...

shunter said...



Very nice hollow timber SUP there clarky

doggie,

my 6'6" hollow timber fish weighs in at ~5kgs. This has 6mm timber decks and 6oz glass and patches its heavy but the weight disapears in the water. The other board is a 6'2" fish with 2.5mm timber skins over polystrene this is lighter than a poly board and supper strong






Very nice, I wonder how much my PU shorties weigh?





I really need a set of scales, Ive got a nice straight 6,6 blank at home. I can feel a project comming on

Clarky
QLD, 290 posts
14 Jul 2011 7:38PM
Thumbs Up

latman said...

Clarky said...

Hey Lats I used kinetix epoxy resin for the lay up and will be using polyester resin for the filler and gloss coats. I used 1 layer of 6 oz on bottom and 1 and I/2 layers on top so yes on most of my rails I have 3 layers after the wrap.

Hey DJ unbelievable looking kayaks makesy board pale in comparison, I wouldn't have they patience to even attempt something like that.


There are big issues making the poly resin adhere to the epoxy (despite what ATL says), you may be better off using more kinetix for the filler (make sure there is no amine blush trapped in the laminate layer), then sand that and spray clear two pack urethane to get the gloss. Certainly some timber boards are fuly glassed in polyester for clarity and ease of
glossing up (i would do that for a wall board) but it can/will delaminate off in use and be a
disaster to try and fix.


Bugger I wish I read your comment earlier Lats, I did the filler coat today in polyester and have sanded it ready for the finish coat tomorrow. As I haven't got the proper polishing gear it would of been easier to spray it with clear.


Clarky
QLD, 290 posts
14 Jul 2011 7:44PM
Thumbs Up

Hey Shunter nice looking boards. I am a industrial arts teacher on the gold coast and every year the yr 12s make surfboards. I have been making my board at school and the students are super keen to make timber boards, most of them want to make fishes or old school single fins. I will definetly show them yours.



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Stand Up Paddle General


"Timber SUP" started by Clarky