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Created by JonathanC > 9 months ago, 19 Mar 2012
JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
19 Mar 2012 11:44AM
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Great day paddling yesterday at the Mad Paddle and I was lucky enough to be on what was the perfect style of board for an event like this, the 14' x 30 Starboard Pierce Touring.



Seems like this end of the market can easily get left behind with the constant push towards "skinnier = faster = better".

For bigger people or for touring and carrying some gear, or even just as a family board this style of board ticks a lot of boxes imo.

I found yesterday as Team Leader I was back and forward a bit, paddling over to the boat, talking to the coast guard, this thing was rock solid but still fast and easy to paddle. Most of the bigger volume boards have been downwind focussed but this one had a flat enough rocker to have good glide and it seemed to catch the tiny runners out there very easily. It actually reminded me a little of my original 12'6 Cruiser but it was way faster and even more stable.

And Rachel and I could hardly be called big people, even paddling in at the end of the race we wouldn't have cracked 120kg between us but it was still the perfect board for the day.

So what else is out there that fill that bill? The Naish Glide 12'6 is a great higher volume board but there isn't too much in the 14 class I can think of right now. I know Dale does some great 14 DC boards and the 30 wide one is probably similar but maybe a little tippier with the rounded rails, of course easily fixed with a custom.

Feels like a lot of the manufacturers are going the way of windsurfing, getting more and more specialised, although I think the BOP boards can be great all rounders as well.

Teeps
VIC, 228 posts
19 Mar 2012 12:19PM
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I'd like to add the Starboard K-15 into the mix. (seen to the right of the Pierce 'Brosnan') Whilst this board has been around for a few years, it is still a current model, and has been tweaked a little for the 2012 range.

After testing many boards for my frame (I am around 100kg) I have found the K-15 to be a great mix of super-fast on the flat (I have posted some of my best race times on it) and quite stable in the rough. I used this on the MAD PADDLE, and didn't fall in, felt very comfortable all the way, and cruised along.

I have also paddled the Pierce Touring in the 14' Board Test, and loved the feel of it, and would be keen to try it further.

Deano72
NSW, 540 posts
19 Mar 2012 12:36PM
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Teeps said...
I used this on the MAD PADDLE, and didn't fall in, felt very comfortable all the way, and cruised along.


Except perhaps some steering issues in the last couple of hundred metres

ShireSUP
NSW, 982 posts
19 Mar 2012 12:48PM
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Jonathan, it looks good, I wonder what it would surf like?

In the mix you could add;

Angulo Shaka 14 x 30 and definatly a big boy board
Surftech Bark 14 x 20.25 (near enough to 30)

Personally I have been surfing the Angulo on the long runners in the bay and loving it (albeit it took a while to get to love it) and am yet to test in a real DW but on a long paddle it keeps its own and is not too shabby into the wind.

But wouldn't mind paddle the new starboard sometime

Greg

Teeps
VIC, 228 posts
19 Mar 2012 12:52PM
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Deano72 said...

Teeps said...
I used this on the MAD PADDLE, and didn't fall in, felt very comfortable all the way, and cruised along.


Except perhaps some steering issues in the last couple of hundred metres


No Deano, that was quite a deliberate attempt to unseat you guys!

You guys were quite the competitive ones in the last dash. At least I didn't mount you from behind, like Simondo did!

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
19 Mar 2012 1:13PM
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Isn't there a Laird board around 14' that is marketed to the touring end?

ShireSUP
NSW, 982 posts
19 Mar 2012 2:08PM
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HumanCartoon said...

PTWoody said...

Isn't there a Laird board around 14' that is marketed to the touring end?


Yep. 14x30 Laird Coast Runner. Rounded surf-style nose, sharp pintail.

Not to be confused with the SB coast runner

http://www.surftechaustralia.com.au/laird




Yes having paddled one of those a few times in my quest for a 14'er I found it was in the barge class and the others were like an old timber hulled ski boat if you get my drift......no doubt Scotty88 will make mention of a certain crushing victory on his Laird Coastrunner, but it was hollow I was on the Naish Nalu! (and have not been game to take him on on the shaka for fear of embarrassing myeslf (more) )

lookToSea
NSW, 183 posts
19 Mar 2012 2:26PM
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The Jimmy Lewis 12'6 Albatross, 29 1/4 wide, 235L

Jimmy Lewis Searcher 12'6, 33 1/2 wide, 363L (havent seen one, but is designed for touring, deck rigging etc)

NSP also has built in deck rigging on their 12', 12'6 and 14' boards

almost the whole Tahoe sup range is designed for touring, they look the goods but havent seen one in aus but have heard there is a guy that has got hold of some stock.

JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
19 Mar 2012 2:43PM
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The nice thing about the Pierce aka 'Brosnan' or now just 007 is that it really isn't meant to be for surfing in breaking waves, much more for touring in flat or mildly choppy water. So with that in mind they have kept the rocker low and gone with the piercing nose to get through little chop. But also kept it at 30" which seems like the magic number for the compromise between speed and stability.

007 really motors! And I think thats the difference, not trying to be all things to all people so its actually fun and fast to paddle on flat water. Of course with the conditions we have here its bound to get hauled out for a down-winder before it goes back to WA...

The Tahoe boards do seem to have a very similar target market. Is there a 30" wide 14' NSP - hard to keep up with all the stuff coming out.

SHQ
VIC, 322 posts
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19 Mar 2012 4:13PM
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For anyone in Melbourne who'd like to try a touring SUP, Mike at Sandy Beach HQ has a NSP 12ft Touring board for hire, or if you want a free demo, just say ''Luke from SHQ sent me down'' The NSP's are great value for money at around $1500, as shown in the recent SUP Vic 14ft board test.

Luke

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
19 Mar 2012 7:53PM
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^ Teeps, funny!

This board in surf... Haven't tried it, but that nose would catch out most people... I think. But, I would still like to give it a run in small runners, both down wind, and small point waves.

Nose might catch in the surf, but in a straight line doing Down Winders, I think it would go very well, catch runners, and the nose shape would allow the water to shed away really easily.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
19 Mar 2012 8:12PM
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Simondo said...

^ Teeps, funny!

This board in surf... Haven't tried it, but that nose would catch out most people... I think. But, I would still like to give it a run in small runners, both down wind, and small point waves.

Nose might catch in the surf, but in a straight line doing Down Winders, I think it would go very well, catch runners, and the nose shape would allow the water to shed away really easily.


So you should check out the Race BOP. It has a similar nose but the tail is squared off and more suited for the surf.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
19 Mar 2012 7:56PM
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i feel like i'm touring along when i take my bullet 17'4 for a run.

Scotty88
4214 posts
19 Mar 2012 6:04PM
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HumanCartoon said...

PTWoody said...

Isn't there a Laird board around 14' that is marketed to the touring end?


Yep. 14x30 Laird Coast Runner. Rounded surf-style nose, sharp pintail.

Not to be confused with the SB coast runner

http://www.surftechaustralia.com.au/laird




I've had this for a year now. Super stable and the best touring board if speed is not a concern. I am saving up for a DC 14 for racing BUT my Coastrunner is a keeper as I reckon it's the best for touring/exploring.








JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
19 Mar 2012 9:43PM
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Hmm nice Scotty, always liked the look of those. Looks like it would surf beautifully too with that big nose rider nose....as long as you can cross step over your bags

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
19 Mar 2012 8:47PM
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actually, i've always wondered how a board like that would go in big, windy dw conditions

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
19 Mar 2012 10:19PM
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Have you done a review on the 17 Bullet yet Lacey!?

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
19 Mar 2012 11:00PM
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Simondo said...

Have you done a review on the 17 Bullet yet Lacey!?

no yet. i did a run late today with shieldsy. he has one too. very good- heaps of runs and links. it doesn't seem to matter whether it good or not, fast or slow- you still get heaps of glides.

anyway i was going a long, then the wind really picked ahead a rain down pour just were it usually hots up

man, i was so far back just being taken for a ride. overtaking bumps, almost carving turns using the paddle. i'm standing back most of the time- don't use the rudder except paddling out or turning in.

i was surfing it pretty much when i saw the shark nets as i hooked on to a long sloping bump. i timed it so as just the nose when over the line, i jump forward and down on my knees the pressed the nose down with my hands. i cleared the line without touching the rudder. as i began to get up i realised i was still on the runner and kept going like nothing happened.

that section today was mad, one for the memory banks.


there is a bullet in the for sale section that is now down to $3000. i can't believe its not sold.

anyway, back to the touring boards

cheers


JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
20 Mar 2012 7:12AM
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laceys lane said...

actually, i've always wondered how a board like that would go in big, windy dw conditions


The shape is not all that different to the old 12'6 Starbie Cruiser and I did heaps of downwinders on that. It was actually really fun because it was so surfy, but if that big nose went under...it would get a foot under water then do this funny sideways shimmy thing trying to resurface. Always a lottery about whether it would come up straight or slew off in some new direction and chuck you off!

Bloody good fun though, so easy to trim across the face, guess it would feel very slow now though...felt fast against the 11'6 Naish of the day

DavidJohn
VIC, 17434 posts
20 Mar 2012 9:01AM
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Here's a couple of pictures from the Mad Paddle that show the new Starboard 14' Pierce Touring board.

DJ



DavidJohn
VIC, 17434 posts
20 Mar 2012 9:05AM
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"The shape is not all that different to the old 12'6 Starbie Cruiser and I did heaps of downwinders on that."

What have you been drinking Jonathan?.. .. maybe you mean 'colour' not 'shape'.

DJ

JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
20 Mar 2012 9:45AM
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DavidJohn said...

"The shape is not all that different to the old 12'6 Starbie Cruiser and I did heaps of downwinders on that."

What have you been drinking Jonathan?.. .. maybe you mean 'colour' not 'shape'.

DJ


Meant compared to the big Laird CoastRunner....

Serendip
NSW, 44 posts
20 Mar 2012 11:07AM
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Hi Jonathan,
good to meet all you guys at the paddle, it was great fun, well run and organised.
A BIG THANKYOU TO ALL INVOLVED.....
I hope we got the $25 K required for the hospital.
I paddled the WOW GSR 14'0 expecting a bit more swell/ wind , your board looked like it was well suited to the conditions.
In hind sight we could have paddled the WOW 12'6 Tour, which , similar to the Starbie, was well suited to the style and conditions of the day. Nice n easy , fast paddling and very comfortable.





Here are a few shot of one
12'6 x 30 x 7 7/8 270 Litre.

look forward to paddling with you guys and girls again.
Brian

Scotty88
4214 posts
20 Mar 2012 8:08AM
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JonathanC said...

laceys lane said...

actually, i've always wondered how a board like that would go in big, windy dw conditions


The shape is not all that different to the old 12'6 Starbie Cruiser and I did heaps of downwinders on that. It was actually really fun because it was so surfy, but if that big nose went under...it would get a foot under water then do this funny sideways shimmy thing trying to resurface. Always a lottery about whether it would come up straight or slew off in some new direction and chuck you off!

Bloody good fun though, so easy to trim across the face, guess it would feel very slow now though...felt fast against the 11'6 Naish of the day




Ok, now that we've clarified that you were referring to the Laird (thanks DJ) there isn't much rocker in the Coastrunner for DW's. I have yet to experience a DW but reckon the nose would dive a fair bit. I reckon you would be busy with the footwork up and down to avoid the nose dipping more then say the Glide with so much rocker. Waiting for my DC for my 1st DW. I got a few waves in fiji on the Laird - but at double over ankle in the river mouth I wouldn't count it.

WINDSURFnSNOW
NSW, 1612 posts
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20 Mar 2012 1:04PM
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If you're going to tour you might as well do it on something pretty.
A couple of pics of our new demo beast.





Sam.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
20 Mar 2012 1:14PM
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Yeah I agree with Sam, you'd definitely go the timber finish to cruise in style.

ockanui
VIC, 1299 posts
20 Mar 2012 5:02PM
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I would love to have a quiver room like , the envy of all suppers seredip and windy, well done, talk about an addiction to collecting Sups

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
20 Mar 2012 5:10PM
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ockanui said...

I would love to have a quiver room like , the envy of all suppers seredip and windy, well done, talk about an addiction to collecting Sups


I think they both call their quiver room a "shop"

ShireSUP
NSW, 982 posts
20 Mar 2012 10:17PM
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HumanCartoon said...

ockanui said...

I would love to have a quiver room like , the envy of all suppers seredip and windy, well done, talk about an addiction to collecting Sups


I think they both call their quiver room a "shop"


No I think Okanui's right, its a quiver room, the only tell the ATO its a shop..........

ShireSUP
NSW, 982 posts
20 Mar 2012 10:18PM
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WINDSURFnSNOW said...

If you're going to tour you might as well do it on something pretty.
A couple of pics of our new demo beast.



Sam.


You can put my name on the demo list for one of those puppies Sam!

Waterloo
QLD, 1496 posts
21 Mar 2012 10:34AM
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Does the Pierce 14 come with a mast insert plug?



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