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Warm water or cold whats heavier???

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Created by hilly > 9 months ago, 21 Feb 2010
hilly
WA, 7323 posts
21 Feb 2010 6:42PM
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Which is heavier??



or



Large testicles

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
21 Feb 2010 9:14PM
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second one looks insane.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17460 posts
21 Feb 2010 11:38PM
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Both are heavy in my book but those large testicles may be smaller in the cold water..

DJ

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
21 Feb 2010 11:46PM
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If you're going to be hit by roughly 20 tons of pressure, I don't think your temperature receptors really care too much.

Benz
WA, 110 posts
21 Feb 2010 9:24PM
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any vid of hawaaii comp

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
21 Feb 2010 9:51PM
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Benz said...

any vid of hawaaii comp



Check this out



or



Laurie FFS when can we embed vimeo come on!!!

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
22 Feb 2010 9:32AM
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Big wave surfing is always heavier in cold water, in my opinion.

Dr Funk
NSW, 348 posts
22 Feb 2010 10:39AM
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Cold water. This is because in cold water, the molecules are close together, thus making the water more dense, though not much. In hot water, the molecules get so hot that they move faster, making them further apart and less dense.

JonathanC
VIC, 1021 posts
22 Feb 2010 10:48AM
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Don't know if it's my imagination but windsurfing in big waves in winter even smacking your body into a large lump of chop will actually wind you, just never seems to happen that way in summer. Don't know if the "waves" are heavier but it does feel like it. Some one needs to get Doctor Karl onto that one

Piros
QLD, 6995 posts
22 Feb 2010 10:13AM
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The cold seems to suck the air out of your lungs when you get smashed , so I reckon a cold water hiding hurts more.

Rob

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
22 Feb 2010 11:22AM
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Cold is a lot heavier I reckon. Some of the wipeouts I had in Capetown in 8 degrees water were horrible.

Bnaccas
VIC, 1722 posts
22 Feb 2010 11:57AM
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Yeah I rekon cold water but at least the wetty adds a bit of float so you can relax more while you're getting smashed!

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
22 Feb 2010 11:14AM
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Bnaccas said...

Yeah I rekon cold water but at least the wetty adds a bit of float so you can relax more while you're getting smashed!


Yes, but having to SUP with booties, a hood and a thick wettie adds to the "heavyness". You can also relax more underwater when the water is warm. It is pretty hard to relax underwater when the water is less than 10 degrees.

dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
22 Feb 2010 12:49PM
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i think the first looks bloody thick

SammyJ
WA, 570 posts
22 Feb 2010 10:54AM
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I've often wondered about this...

From my experiences with hold down's at Marg's compared to Gnaraloo in similar size waves I would much prefer a warm water flogging. To top it off I'd go one step further and say an Indo beating would be my first option.

Personally I think it's got more to do with were the swell has traveled from. The whole south coast round to Vic seams to pack a punch. Some wild sea's in that southern Ocean.

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
22 Feb 2010 2:35PM
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SammyJ said...
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Personally I think it's got more to do with were the swell has traveled from. The whole south coast round to Vic seams to pack a punch. Some wild sea's in that southern Ocean.


I agree. A hit from a 4' wave at Byron or Noosa is a love tap but a hit from 4' in Vic is like being run over by a small truck.

Similarly, a Woolamai, Gunnamatta or Portsea beating is a lot heavier than many Surf Coast waves.

Newmo
VIC, 471 posts
22 Feb 2010 2:49PM
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I have to agree that a beating at Woolamai takes your breath away. I kind of don't mind falling off in warm water.
Cheers Scott

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
22 Feb 2010 2:59PM
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Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf of the like?

I reckon size for size some of our Sydney reefs are as heavy as anywhere, check out Kelly at one of our 'local' spots, aptly named 'deadmans'. It is breaking about 20 meters from the base of a cliff.

Newmo
VIC, 471 posts
22 Feb 2010 3:13PM
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I lived on the northern beaches a few years ago and took many a beating and a fine thrashing or two at DY Point
Cheers Scott

daletor
VIC, 301 posts
22 Feb 2010 3:18PM
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goatman said...

Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf of the like?




Woolomai is a direct hit for the swell. Swell comes from the South West fetch and does not have to turn.
For Bells the swell turns 90 degrees eliminating some size and power. It still packs a punch! Bells hold downs are notorious when the swell gets bigger. Bells tends to pick up and hold more swell than other Surf Coast waves as it comes out of deeper water.
I am well past my days of experiencing a Bells hold down - leave that to the younger ones.

Impressive video of Kelly at Dead mans. Love the way he pulls into a barrell. Is Dead mans Cape solander? ....or Sandon Point?

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
22 Feb 2010 3:35PM
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Cliffs next to Manly!

But Sandon Point is great....I have a map....

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
22 Feb 2010 4:51PM
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Yeah Goaty this was an epic day to watch!
We were on a Bower mission when we saw a huge crowd gathered in the car park.

It is always a worthy sight when Deadmans is ON, as half the guys get cleaned up trying to take the drop. It is one GNARLY wave! Never dropped it myself even in my younger days. Winki dredging was enough for me

Slater was one of only a handful of guys paddling in that day. Everyone else was towing.

Slater was just insane, the control he had dropping in that deep was just mind blowing for a guy who just rocked up and didn't have the full set-up. I guess that what makes him a World Champ!

As for cold verses hot 'wackings', I am guessing the Winter swells are generally a longer swell period with way more punch and then cold water then just takes your breathe away!

dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
22 Feb 2010 5:01PM
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i was there that day at deadmans and KS was riding a twin fin as in his excitment he forgot to screw in his back fin in his board !!!! What a freak who gets excited over surf that big and breaking onto a cliff?

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
22 Feb 2010 5:36PM
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goatman said...

Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf of the like?


Lack of a continental shelf boosts the power of a surf break.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
22 Feb 2010 10:31PM
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goatman said...

Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf of the like?

I reckon size for size some of our Sydney reefs are as heavy as anywhere, check out Kelly at one of our 'local' spots, aptly named 'deadmans'. It is breaking about 20 meters from the base of a cliff.

i've seen the photos, but never the footage. absolutely mind blowing surfing

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
23 Feb 2010 12:42PM
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Woolomai is a direct hit for the swell. Swell comes from the South West fetch and does not have to turn.
For Bells the swell turns 90 degrees eliminating some size and power. It still packs a punch! Bells hold downs are notorious when the swell gets bigger. Bells tends to pick up and hold more swell than other Surf Coast waves as it comes out of deeper water.
I am well past my days of experiencing a Bells hold down - leave that to the younger ones.




woolies is like a quick jab to the face by Iron Mike...very painful but you know your coming up pretty quick...Bells is like getting caught on the ropes it seems to hold you down and roll you for ages........

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
23 Feb 2010 12:58PM
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hilly said...

goatman said...

Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf or the like?


Lack of a continental shelf boosts the power of a surf break.



I guess that was my point check out the continental shelf on the NSW coast compared to the rest of the country:




The swell direction makes sense in reference to Woolamai. Apart from the shorey I never found Bells that heavy a hold down.

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
23 Feb 2010 1:38PM
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Get back to work boys!!



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