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Created by antonfourie > 9 months ago, 19 Dec 2012
antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
19 Dec 2012 3:53PM
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I have made myself a few wood SUP paddles, I thought that some of you might like these photos of my paddles.











gumballs
NSW, 408 posts
19 Dec 2012 5:08PM
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Nice....But they look far to good to take down the beach.

gregc
VIC, 1298 posts
19 Dec 2012 5:17PM
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Thats so cool, see when I see wood in a store I just think that I will have stuff for the fireplace tonight :)

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
19 Dec 2012 5:26PM
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gumballs said...
Nice....But they look far to good to take down the beach.


Yeah...straight to the pool room

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
19 Dec 2012 5:38PM
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Very nice job

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
19 Dec 2012 6:03PM
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antonfourie said...

I have made myself a few wood TIMBER SUP paddles, I thought that some of you might like these photos of my paddles.



"Wood is for burning...Timber is for crafting" my old trade school teacher's favorite quote.

Beautiful work Anton, exceptional crafsmanship!

NNSUP
NSW, 1263 posts
19 Dec 2012 6:50PM
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Anton had this paddle at WINDSURFnSNOW yesterday and Sam and I suggested he put it up on the Breeze. The paddle was a real piece of art but as a paddle it was surprisingly light and beautifully balanced.

The craftsmanship was superb. I had to look for the joins.

Great on a wall or in the water.

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
19 Dec 2012 6:57PM
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NNSUP said...
Anton had this paddle at WINDSURFnSNOW yesterday and Sam and I suggested he put it up on the Breeze. The paddle was a real piece of art but as a paddle it was surprisingly light and beautifully balanced.

The craftsmanship was superb. I had to look for the joins.

Great on a wall or in the water.


Hey NNSUP, I had a go on the Fanatic ProWave this morning, it was as good as you said it would be, I can't wait to get it out in bigger surf though

OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
19 Dec 2012 8:20PM
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Beautiful craftsmanship.

Phill

BoofHead65
QLD, 52 posts
20 Dec 2012 8:59AM
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Beautifil paddle. What timbers do you use? Bare timber or glassed? Finished weight?
Timber paddle is on the to do list when I finish my timber SUP.
Thanks for pics

petedorries
QLD, 700 posts
20 Dec 2012 9:11AM
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Really really nice.
Like one to put up on the wall with those other shorter ones.
It was only up till the mid eighties they were still using wooden paddles at the olympics.

pete

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
20 Dec 2012 10:50AM
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Very nice work! Is that 2 thin carbon strips, either side of center in the shaft?

DavidJohn
VIC, 17461 posts
20 Dec 2012 1:19PM
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Great job.. Beautiful paddle.. It's a shame that most wood paddle shafts have to be so thick for them to be strong enough to trust.

I have a beautiful wood Kialoa Methan that has a carbon shaft.. It's not as nice as complete wood paddle but at least I know it won't go snap and the shaft is nice and thin..

Here.. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/The-sexiest-Kialoa-yet/?whichpage=-1

Are you planing to make any more?

DJ

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
20 Dec 2012 1:31PM
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DavidJohn said...
Great job.. Beautiful paddle.. It's a shame that most wood paddle shafts have to be so thick for them to be strong enough to trust.

I have a beautiful wood Kialoa Methan that has a carbon shaft.. It's not as nice as complete wood paddle but at least I know it won't go snap and the shaft is nice and thin..

Here.. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/The-sexiest-Kialoa-yet/?whichpage=-1

Are you planing to make any more?

DJ


Actually they are quite thin, around the same as a carbon. The shaft is oval, and is around 35mm X 30mm, the carbon the shaft is there to make it strong, so I am currently experimenting with how thin I can make them without them being too fragile. At the moment I can prop up the ends of the paddle and stand in the middle of the shaft and bounce and it does not break.

Yes I am going to be making them and selling them, I have some available now too, but so as not to turn this into a advertorial, if you are interested please message me for more details.

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
20 Dec 2012 1:36PM
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husq2100 said...
Very nice work! Is that 2 thin carbon strips, either side of center in the shaft?



Yes it is, they enable me to make the shaft smaller and keep the strength

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
20 Dec 2012 1:40PM
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BoofHead65 said...
Beautifil paddle. What timbers do you use? Bare timber or glassed? Finished weight?
Timber paddle is on the to do list when I finish my timber SUP.
Thanks for pics


I am using meranti and pine for the shaft, and meranti and white ash / pine for the blade which is also glassed.

I am getting them down to around 800 - 900 grams, but I think that I can get them down to 700 and still have the strength

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
20 Dec 2012 1:09PM
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What pine? Have you looked at the weight of long fibre timbers such as nth American ash, hickory or spruce?

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
20 Dec 2012 3:20PM
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husq2100 said...
What pine? Have you looked at the weight of long fibre timbers such as nth American ash, hickory or spruce?


Yes, now that I have got to what I want as far as dimensions and shape etc, I am going to change to use a combo of meranti and spruce, they have very similar young's modulus properties, and white ash on the blade, as it is more resistant to dings from fins etc

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
20 Dec 2012 3:23PM
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Interesting, I have never heard of "Young's Modulus" being used/refered to timber....generally steels and alloys. Not saying it doesnt apply, but I just hadnt heard it before. Do you have any links or info for this regarding different timber species?

I would be suprised if Meranti had the same characteristics as spruce. I have only used it in domestic construction, and really dont enjoy it. Its consistantly inconsistant and prone to splitting when nailed. When snapped, fibres are very short (like Aussie hwds)

obviously look is a big part of what you are doing, but I wonder if thinner/more laminations with some more carbon would help to reduce weight/increase strength???

What ash do you mean (unfortunately common names can be used to describe different species depending on geographic location)

have you looked into balsa? has been used very successfully in structural applications.

here are some average weights, obviously growing location/condition and grade selection will change these somewhat.

Meranti (dark red) 700kg/m3
Hickory approx 833kg/m3
American ash 673kg/m3
Spruce 450kg/m3
Western Red Ceder 380kg/m3

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
20 Dec 2012 5:01PM
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husq2100 said...
Interesting, I have never heard of "Young's Modulus" being used/refered to timber....generally steels and alloys. Not saying it doesnt apply, but I just hadnt heard it before. Do you have any links or info for this regarding different timber species?

I would be suprised if Meranti had the same characteristics as spruce. I have only used it in domestic construction, and really dont enjoy it. Its consistantly inconsistant and prone to splitting when nailed. When snapped, fibres are very short (like Aussie hwds)

obviously look is a big part of what you are doing, but I wonder if thinner/more laminations with some more carbon would help to reduce weight/increase strength???

What ash do you mean (unfortunately common names can be used to describe different species depending on geographic location)

have you looked into balsa? has been used very successfully in structural applications.

here are some average weights, obviously growing location/condition and grade selection will change these somewhat.

Meranti (dark red) 700kg/m3
Hickory approx 833kg/m3
American ash 673kg/m3
Spruce 450kg/m3
Western Red Ceder 380kg/m3


So this is the data that I managed to find about timber, very handy for reference

The important bits being the bottom end of the scale of each, to get worst case scenario





husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
20 Dec 2012 4:06PM
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thats pretty cool. I do wonder, given that it looks like that is a USA compiled chart, that is their Meranti sourced from the same places as ours? and is it the same grading?

If you have ever used Douglas Fir that was grown in NZ and grown in the USA/Canada, you will notice a HUGE difference.

regardless, paddle is very nice work

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
20 Dec 2012 5:27PM
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husq2100 said...
thats pretty cool. I do wonder, given that it looks like that is a USA compiled chart, that is their Meranti sourced from the same places as ours? and is it the same grading?

If you have ever used Douglas Fir that was grown in NZ and grown in the USA/Canada, you will notice a HUGE difference.

regardless, paddle is very nice work


Actually it from the materials database used at the Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands.

http://www.matbase.com

Lots of useful information there

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
20 Dec 2012 5:30PM
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husq2100 said...
thats pretty cool. I do wonder, given that it looks like that is a USA compiled chart, that is their Meranti sourced from the same places as ours? and is it the same grading?

If you have ever used Douglas Fir that was grown in NZ and grown in the USA/Canada, you will notice a HUGE difference.

regardless, paddle is very nice work


Yes I am going to start trying out other timber too, spruce and fir are both on my to do list, along with other "dark" woods for the blades, but the usual too many things to do and not enough time to do them all problem. However I will keep posting any new designs and changes that I make.

pohaku
NSW, 850 posts
20 Dec 2012 5:42PM
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how much?

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
20 Dec 2012 5:54PM
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pohaku said...
how much?


$250

rodriguez
VIC, 883 posts
20 Dec 2012 6:14PM
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Their beautiful,and thats a very reasonable price.

fester
WA, 349 posts
21 Dec 2012 11:23AM
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What about Paulownia ?
260 to 350kg/m3 & you dont need to glass, only oil.

antonfourie
NSW, 140 posts
21 Dec 2012 2:29PM
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fester said...
What about Paulownia ?
260 to 350kg/m3 & you dont need to glass, only oil.


breaks to easily unfortunately

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
21 Dec 2012 3:31PM
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fester said...
What about Paulownia ?
260 to 350kg/m3 & you dont need to glass, only oil.


what makes you say you dont nead to glass or atleast seal it?

Yampa
5 posts
21 Dec 2012 1:53PM
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That is a beaut!

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
21 Dec 2012 4:40PM
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Very nice



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