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Yesterdays DW'er on the Coreban Cadillac.

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Created by DavidJohn > 9 months ago, 25 Oct 2012
DavidJohn
VIC, 17517 posts
25 Oct 2012 7:46AM
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Yesterday I finally got to demo the new 14' Coreban Dart.. Maybe they should have called it The Cadillac..

It was the easiest downwind board that I've used.. It was big, wide, and comfee to paddle.. It was like the Cadillac of DW boards..

In some ways it was better than my new Naish Glide.. and in some ways it was worse.. It would be perfect for someone wanting to get into downwinders but doesn't want to do a lot of falling off..

Here's my vid from paddling it yesterday in about 20 knots of wind.

DJ


HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
25 Oct 2012 9:40AM
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Might have to confess a little Dart envy, that board goes very nicely .

Hehehe the "THWACK" when you paddled that young bloke's butt startled me and I was 30 feet away...the noise was so big I thought you'd whacked his sail! He wasn't happy....

rodriguez
VIC, 883 posts
25 Oct 2012 10:37AM
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Hey DJ,what did you think of the fin for the Dart? Compared with the more traditional fin.

Area10
1508 posts
25 Oct 2012 7:52AM
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Another great vid, DJ.

I find the Dart a lot of fun and surprisingly fast in all DW conditions - it is easy to maintain a high average speed. But get the Dart in 30 knots+ and in open seas rather than a bay and that stability and easy handling starts to make even more sense. It'll put a smile on your face when other boards are making you want to start a EPS bonfire. The full carbon one in particular is extremely light for its size and that gives it good acceleration onto the bump.

It's really nice to have a DW/open ocean board that you know will cope with anything or anyone. Particularly important if you paddle in cold conditions for at least some of the year. Coreban have done an excellent job in creating something unique for the downwind market: It is IMO hands-down the easiest and most forgiving downwind board on the market today.

surfanimal
NSW, 1650 posts
25 Oct 2012 11:32AM
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rodriguez said...
Hey DJ,what did you think of the fin for the Dart? Compared with the more traditional fin.


I'm using the Karen Wrenn Futures fin in my carbon Dart and love it.

surfanimal
NSW, 1650 posts
25 Oct 2012 11:33AM
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Area10 said...
Another great vid, DJ.

I find the Dart a lot of fun and surprisingly fast in all DW conditions - it is easy to maintain a high average speed. But get the Dart in 30 knots+ and in open seas rather than a bay and that stability and easy handling starts to make even more sense. It'll put a smile on your face when other boards are making you want to start a EPS bonfire. The full carbon one in particular is extremely light for its size and that gives it good acceleration onto the bump.

It's really nice to have a DW/open ocean board that you know will cope with anything or anyone. Particularly important if you paddle in cold conditions for at least some of the year. Coreban have done an excellent job in creating something unique for the downwind market: It is IMO hands-down the easiest and most forgiving downwind board on the market today.


Absolutely agree - hence why DJ's sarcasm may have been taken negatively by some hence the red thumbs.....cadillac maybe - unreal board YES.

rodriguez
VIC, 883 posts
25 Oct 2012 12:14PM
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supanimal said...
rodriguez said...
Hey DJ,what did you think of the fin for the Dart? Compared with the more traditional fin.


I'm using the Karen Wrenn Futures fin in my carbon Dart and love it.


Mate i'm not familiar with that fin! any photos?also did you try the Coreban fin b4 changing? reagrds, Rod.

Kaihoe
VIC, 229 posts
25 Oct 2012 12:22PM
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The "Big Easy" looks like a whole heap of fun, though we are very fortunate here in Victoria that we don't have to worry about water temp as it is warm and inviting all year round.
For a while there I thought DJ was paddling up to his own personal mooring at the marina, just going to tie the Dart up and head into the clubrooms for refreshments.

surfanimal
NSW, 1650 posts
25 Oct 2012 2:41PM
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rodriguez said...
supanimal said...
rodriguez said...
Hey DJ,what did you think of the fin for the Dart? Compared with the more traditional fin.


I'm using the Karen Wrenn Futures fin in my carbon Dart and love it.


Mate i'm not familiar with that fin! any photos?also did you try the Coreban fin b4 changing? reagrds, Rod.



I found the standard too stiff and did not allow for any directional movement at all....maybe good in a tail wind however the Karen Wrenn fin allows stability with manouverability.



The Future Fins Stand Up and Paddle Karen Wrenn Fin is an all around high performance fin. The SUP Karen Wrenn Fin is a unique SUP template that helps the SUP'er to get through those kelpy days without getting hung up, while remaining very stable. Future Fins has got you covered!


“When I designed this fin with Futures, the idea was to have an all-around fin for the open ocean and all kinds of flat water racing. It's lightweight and sheds weeds easily while remaining very stable. Light & Fast!” – Karen Wrenn



DavidJohn
VIC, 17517 posts
25 Oct 2012 4:05PM
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rodriguez said...
Hey DJ,what did you think of the fin for the Dart? Compared with the more traditional fin.


It seemed to work ok.. Actually didn't notice it doing anything odd while paddling or surfing runners.. That's usually a sign of a good fin.

No issue with yawing and stability.. The only thing I hate about those fin shapes is they tend to catch and grab when they drag on the bottom.. Even sand.. I didn't drag it.

I tend to like the more dolphin shaped fins.

DJ

DavidJohn
VIC, 17517 posts
25 Oct 2012 4:08PM
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supanimal said...


Absolutely agree - hence why DJ's sarcasm may have been taken negatively by some hence the red thumbs.....cadillac maybe - unreal board YES.




What sarcasm?.. Just wondering.

DJ

surfanimal
NSW, 1650 posts
25 Oct 2012 4:10PM
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DavidJohn said...
supanimal said...


Absolutely agree - hence why DJ's sarcasm may have been taken negatively by some hence the red thumbs.....cadillac maybe - unreal board YES.




What sarcasm?.. Just wondering.

DJ




DavidJohn said...

Maybe they should have called it The Cadillac..

It was like the Cadillac of DW boards..

It would be perfect for someone wanting to get into downwinders but doesn't want to do a lot of falling off..



rodriguez
VIC, 883 posts
25 Oct 2012 4:22PM
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DavidJohn said...
rodriguez said...
Hey DJ,what did you think of the fin for the Dart? Compared with the more traditional fin.


It seemed to work ok.. Actually didn't notice it doing anything odd while paddling or surfing runners.. That's usually a sign of a good fin.

No issue with yawing and stability.. The only thing I hate about those fin shapes is they tend to catch and grab when they drag on the bottom.. Even sand.. I didn't drag it.

I tend to like the more dolphin shaped fins.

DJ



Thanks DJ,being a downwind noob, I wondered.I dont know whether I'm kidding myself but I thought when i first paddled it I was able to paddle one side forever,so i sort of thought it might of been the more verticle fin.I have heaps of fins for sups and surfboards.so I think it will be the same deal with the DW sup. The money trail never ends,thanks for your thoughts.

Hey supanimal,thanks for the photo of the Wrenn fin,what sort of dollars are we looking at?

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
25 Oct 2012 4:59PM
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I know DJ only a little but I don't think he does sarcasm. You can take what you read at face value.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17517 posts
26 Oct 2012 3:10AM
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Here's some pictures of the boards and my latest version of my camera mount.

DJ



















BulldogPup
6657 posts
26 Oct 2012 1:00AM
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Ah , where would we be without the good old Gaffer Tape DJ - good one & it must be close to production stage now mate

PaulVee
VIC, 126 posts
26 Oct 2012 5:08PM
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Hey Luke,
when's my board arrive? Can't wait.
Paul

E T
QLD, 2286 posts
26 Oct 2012 4:27PM
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Hey DJ, From the first two photos it looks like if you got that little Suzuki going fast enough it might fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ET.



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