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Created by laceys lane > 9 months ago, 9 Feb 2010
laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
9 Feb 2010 8:32PM
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what to get for a big board for the season?my 8'8 isn,t going to cut it with the handling and the paddle power needed to get over wash overs, sweeps etc. spent so much time getting the shorties wired i've got no idea for a bigger board. jamies surftech model looks good. is 9'6 enough?still would like a good performer. i think a bit of weight will not hurt any idea's
cheers

Piros
QLD, 6996 posts
9 Feb 2010 10:03PM
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As far as punching out through a big swell smaller the better , a big board will give you more speed when you're up and running but if you are getting munched in the break it's quicker to recover and get paddling again on a shorter board even if you are just laying down.

It's a big trade off to go to bigger just to paddle out , keep it short and narrow as you can for the best surfing performance in meaty surf.

For your size and weight 9-6 would be a boat for you unless it was and absolute pin pin thin gun.

Rob

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
9 Feb 2010 10:14PM
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Piros said...

As far as punching out through a big swell smaller the better , a big board will give you more speed when you're up and running but if you are getting munched in the break it's quicker to recover and get paddling again on a shorter board even if you are just laying down.

It's a big trade off to go to bigger just to paddle out , keep it short and narrow as you can for the best surfing performance in meaty surf.

For your size and weight 9-6 would be a boat for you unless it was and absolute pin pin thin gun.

Rob


yeah, fair enough.might need to go just a bit bigger, but go for a more speeder outline thats really going to hold and lay up. my 8'8 is the equal of a sub 6' beachbreak shortboard in some ways
thx's

Piros
QLD, 6996 posts
9 Feb 2010 10:25PM
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Mark I reckon a junior burger version of this would work well for you .

Rob

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
9 Feb 2010 10:32PM
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Piros said...

Mark I reckon a junior burger version of this would work well for you .

Rob




mate, i've already pm hilly seeing as he is the resident psh expert
uncanny sir
a likely contender that board

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
10 Feb 2010 11:21AM
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Tux said...

You might look at something like thsi bro...might be a tad long though

http://www.supsurfmag.com/equipment-stand-up-paddle/reviews/stand-up-paddle-board-review-of-pau-hana-sg1-semi%11gun-20100201895/


That board looks quite nice, might be a bit over buoyant for Lacey though. Why don't you get Dale to make you a gun Lacey? Something about 9'2" x 27 1/2 with a pulled in tail and a bit more rocker.

I don't reckon you have to go too short unless you are riding big bombie type waves. My little 8'9" has been fine in double overhead stuff down here, admittedly we don't get the currents you get on the goldy.

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
10 Feb 2010 1:48PM
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I would not worry about weight too much as light boards bounce around too much on the bigger days.

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
10 Feb 2010 2:19PM
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mikeman said...

I would not worry about weight too much as light boards bounce around too much on the bigger days.


I would seriously think about PU for a real gun.

EPS has always skittered in wind and bump, if your gonna take it on go PU. You will never see a prone gun made from EPS for this exact reason. A few guys took Surftech guns (same const as most SUP) to Indo a few years back and the results were scary. Wouldnt want to be held up in the lip of a 10' wave. Surftechs sell fishes etc pretty much for small waves 99%.

On the C4 website there are a lot of PU's also, I guess for heavier waves in Hawaii.

I reckon Dale could make a fantastic PU gun, Burfords sell the foam. Glass in Epoxy or PE.

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
10 Feb 2010 2:02PM
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The 10 in the photo is great in bigger waves and yes it is heavy about 11kg. My 12er was one of the earlier ones that is really heavy about 14kg with all the fruit on. The newer ones are lighter.

In bigger waves weight is not an issue. Custom PU would be nice. At your weight one of these good too. Out soon. Comp or wood construction.



The 9 8 or 9 10 rippers would be good in juice as well

Piros
QLD, 6996 posts
10 Feb 2010 4:33PM
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CMC said...

mikeman said...

I would not worry about weight too much as light boards bounce around too much on the bigger days.


I would seriously think about PU for a real gun.

EPS has always skittered in wind and bump, if your gonna take it on go PU. You will never see a prone gun made from EPS for this exact reason. A few guys took Surftech guns (same const as most SUP) to Indo a few years back and the results were scary. Wouldnt want to be held up in the lip of a 10' wave. Surftechs sell fishes etc pretty much for small waves 99%.

On the C4 website there are a lot of PU's also, I guess for heavier waves in Hawaii.

I reckon Dale could make a fantastic PU gun, Burfords sell the foam. Glass in Epoxy or PE.


Dale and I working on the design for my 9-1 gun , PU might me the go , I'll talk to him about it.
Good call Chris.

Rob

supoz
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10 Feb 2010 3:17PM
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Okay Lacey - you want a mix of speed/punch through waves/hold on big waves and instant acceleration and knowing you, something just that little bit different - look no further because I have found the solution for you !!!!!



yeah yeah I know it's too fat in the tail.

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
10 Feb 2010 7:34PM
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Piros said...

CMC said...

mikeman said...

I would not worry about weight too much as light boards bounce around too much on the bigger days.


I would seriously think about PU for a real gun.

EPS has always skittered in wind and bump, if your gonna take it on go PU. You will never see a prone gun made from EPS for this exact reason. A few guys took Surftech guns (same const as most SUP) to Indo a few years back and the results were scary. Wouldnt want to be held up in the lip of a 10' wave. Surftechs sell fishes etc pretty much for small waves 99%.

On the C4 website there are a lot of PU's also, I guess for heavier waves in Hawaii.

I reckon Dale could make a fantastic PU gun, Burfords sell the foam. Glass in Epoxy or PE.


Dale and I working on the design for my 9-1 gun , PU might me the go , I'll talk to him about it.
Good call Chris.

Rob



Yes, I will also have a chat with Dale about this as I think you have to take the right board out in solid waves. He made me a really nice 9'2" quad paddle in board(actually he made it for himself and I claimed it) but I left it Hawaii. It went really well in last years solid swells (also at sunset) so he knows what he is doing. I think he could put together something really good.

The boys charging Dungeons are using lead weights in their boards so weight is something that you would be looking for in really solid waves.

Makaha
1145 posts
10 Feb 2010 6:39PM
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laceys lane said...

what to get for a big board for the season?my 8'8 isn,t going to cut it with the handling and the paddle power needed to get over wash overs, sweeps etc. spent so much time getting the shorties wired i've got no idea for a bigger board. jamies surftech model looks good. is 9'6 enough?still would like a good performer. i think a bit of weight will not hurt any idea's
cheers


What SEASON are you referring to Lacey, didn't the Gold Coast just cop a swell?
or are you heading overseas?if so how big do you intend to go out in?

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
10 Feb 2010 9:39PM
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Makaha said...

laceys lane said...

what to get for a big board for the season?my 8'8 isn,t going to cut it with the handling and the paddle power needed to get over wash overs, sweeps etc. spent so much time getting the shorties wired i've got no idea for a bigger board. jamies surftech model looks good. is 9'6 enough?still would like a good performer. i think a bit of weight will not hurt any idea's
cheers


What SEASON are you referring to Lacey, didn't the Gold Coast just cop a swell?
or are you heading overseas?if so how big do you intend to go out in?


just the wave season in east coast.i had a surf this morning at the alley, 3 to 4 ft, saw cmc out there. had some issues holding lines i like to surf, but still got some good ones. this afternoon tried the shapers s9. made the board a dog to handle, kept bogging. while it had a better hold, the board lacked finesse. my feelings are it is the outline and the width at 29'. don't get me wrong- i love my board to bits, just been so long without waves this the first time in a bit bigger stuff.goatie, i'll check out the new rippers and have a chat to dale too. last year i had the gerry 8'11 and had a ball in bigger waves with that. i did convert it from a quad to 3 finner. seems to be the hot topic at the moment- a bigger board that still rips
cheers

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
10 Feb 2010 9:43PM
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mikeman said...

Piros said...

CMC said...

mikeman said...

I would not worry about weight too much as light boards bounce around too much on the bigger days.


I would seriously think about PU for a real gun.

EPS has always skittered in wind and bump, if your gonna take it on go PU. You will never see a prone gun made from EPS for this exact reason. A few guys took Surftech guns (same const as most SUP) to Indo a few years back and the results were scary. Wouldnt want to be held up in the lip of a 10' wave. Surftechs sell fishes etc pretty much for small waves 99%.

On the C4 website there are a lot of PU's also, I guess for heavier waves in Hawaii.

I reckon Dale could make a fantastic PU gun, Burfords sell the foam. Glass in Epoxy or PE.


Dale and I working on the design for my 9-1 gun , PU might me the go , I'll talk to him about it.
Good call Chris.

Rob



Yes, I will also have a chat with Dale about this as I think you have to take the right board out in solid waves. He made me a really nice 9'2" quad paddle in board(actually he made it for himself and I claimed it) but I left it Hawaii. It went really well in last years solid swells (also at sunset) so he knows what he is doing. I think he could put together something really good.

The boys charging Dungeons are using lead weights in their boards so weight is something that you would be looking for in really solid waves.


sounds like a few of us a going to hit up dale. i remember dale saying getting a board to go good in s### waves the hard part, the good wave board is a lot easier
cheers

Scotty Mac
SA, 2055 posts
10 Feb 2010 10:44PM
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Hilly has secrets...

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
10 Feb 2010 10:14PM
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laceys lane said...

Makaha said...

laceys lane said...

what to get for a big board for the season?my 8'8 isn,t going to cut it with the handling and the paddle power needed to get over wash overs, sweeps etc. spent so much time getting the shorties wired i've got no idea for a bigger board. jamies surftech model looks good. is 9'6 enough?still would like a good performer. i think a bit of weight will not hurt any idea's
cheers


What SEASON are you referring to Lacey, didn't the Gold Coast just cop a swell?
or are you heading overseas?if so how big do you intend to go out in?


just the wave season in east coast.i had a surf this morning at the alley, 3 to 4 ft, saw cmc out there. had some issues holding lines i like to surf, but still got some good ones. this afternoon tried the shapers s9. made the board a dog to handle, kept bogging. while it had a better hold, the board lacked finesse. my feelings are it is the outline and the width at 29'. don't get me wrong- i love my board to bits, just been so long without waves this the first time in a bit bigger stuff.goatie, i'll check out the new rippers and have a chat to dale too. last year i had the gerry 8'11 and had a ball in bigger waves with that. i did convert it from a quad to 3 finner. seems to be the hot topic at the moment- a bigger board that still rips
cheers


i might add the gerry was like the ron house type of construction, epoxy, but with a stringer and very traditional surfboard feel. there might be something true about the pu feel for good waves. maybe the epoxy is for small/medium stuff like cmc has mentioned

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
10 Feb 2010 8:27PM
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Scotty Mac said...

Hilly has secrets...


and I hope the wife doesn't find out

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
11 Feb 2010 10:29AM
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hilly said...

and I hope the wife doesn't find out


Ha ha....first rule of Supping, don't let the misses on the forums....Dogman take note..LOL



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