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standamaran legal

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Created by scotty100 > 9 months ago, 22 May 2010
scotty100
QLD, 233 posts
22 May 2010 11:59AM
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just seen video of sic 16ft twin hull standamaran are they legal to race in oz

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
22 May 2010 12:00PM
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Probably legal until you start winning on one !!!

But seriously, I've got nuthin' ! Don't know !

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
22 May 2010 12:08PM
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I am sure there will be thise that will object but I personally would like to see these allowed into the unlimited category. With a little more tweaking we should start to see great multi-hull designs in Oz soon.

Peasey (Secret Agent) made a realy nice 17' tri and nobody over here had any problems with it. Good on him for having a go.

The more R&D and new ideas the better, as far as I am concerned.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
22 May 2010 12:32PM
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Yeah, absolutely no reason why it couldn't be an unlimited class board. Or even a sub-class.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17435 posts
22 May 2010 4:15PM
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The new one is much better than the one in that vid.

I'd like to see it on a good runner and pearl nice and deep.. and then broach and roll over sideways..

DJ

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
22 May 2010 6:09PM
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DavidJohn said...


I'd like to see it on a good runner and pearl nice and deep.. and then broach and roll over sideways..

DJ


??? I wonder if you would have said this if your favourite brand had made it. Come on give these guys a fair go. Look at what was achieved in the Americas cup this year. Only a few years ago nobody would have guessed that 2 multi-hull designs would be racing each other for that coveted trophy.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
22 May 2010 6:13PM
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Mikeman, nah I'm with DJ on this one for now.... Cat's are a proven design for pearl, broach, and roll over sideways !!! But they are still a great design.

They are also a proven design for some great nose dive catapult stacks !! I'll get you a link !! You just wait !!

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Pity you don't get to see the aftermath twisted mess on this one.... (assumptions made by me)


Downwinder
QLD, 2015 posts
22 May 2010 6:39PM
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I'll be having a go on a Standamaran when I'm on Maui in July only 6 weeks to go STOKED I'll give you me feed back. May even bring on home to the Goldie?

DavidJohn
VIC, 17435 posts
22 May 2010 6:56PM
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mikeman said...

DavidJohn said...


I'd like to see it on a good runner and pearl nice and deep.. and then broach and roll over sideways..

DJ


??? I wonder if you would have said this if your favourite brand had made it. Come on give these guys a fair go. Look at what was achieved in the Americas cup this year. Only a few years ago nobody would have guessed that 2 multi-hull designs would be racing each other for that coveted trophy.


Mike.. I don't have anything against them.. They've been posted here many times in the past and mostly by me.. and I've said before that I'd buy one.. I think last time I said "if I was Pono Bill I'd buy one".. .. I'm not sure that I'd like the only way to turn them is with the rudder.. but they sure would be fast.

As soon as Jonathan got back from Hawaii I asked him if he got to try the Standa-meringue.. .. btw Sandwich Island Composites are my favourite brand for DW boards for sure.

DJ



PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
22 May 2010 7:00PM
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Downwinder said...

I'll be having a go on a Standamaran when I'm on Maui in July only 6 weeks to go STOKED I'll give you me feed back. May even bring on home to the Goldie?


Any ideas what he's asking for these beauties?

Downwinder
QLD, 2015 posts
22 May 2010 7:20PM
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PTWoody said...

Downwinder said...

I'll be having a go on a Standamaran when I'm on Maui in July only 6 weeks to go STOKED I'll give you me feed back. May even bring on home to the Goldie?


Any ideas what he's asking for these beauties?

I'll be having a beer with Mark & I'll be asking him then.

byronmaui
448 posts
22 May 2010 6:38PM
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$4200 US... Somewhere in that range. Gonna get a try soon.

Aloha

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
22 May 2010 8:51PM
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byronmaui said...

$4200 US... Somewhere in that range. Gonna get a try soon.

Aloha




Holy cow, that's about the price of 2 SUPs. Then again, it kind of is 2 SUPs.

Cam Gillies
SA, 216 posts
22 May 2010 9:23PM
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mikeman said...

DavidJohn said...


I'd like to see it on a good runner and pearl nice and deep.. and then broach and roll over sideways..

DJ


??? I wonder if you would have said this if your favourite brand had made it. Come on give these guys a fair go. Look at what was achieved in the Americas cup this year. Only a few years ago nobody would have guessed that 2 multi-hull designs would be racing each other for that coveted trophy.


Lighten up mikeman, you're the first to go promoting your lover DC's boards and the first to have a cry if someone disagree's with your opinion

Bnaccas
VIC, 1722 posts
22 May 2010 11:13PM
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Yeah I rekon unlimited class is fine. Looks to me he is still standing up and paddling.

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
24 May 2010 2:59PM
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I used to own a Hobie 16 and have done a fair bit of multi-hull ocean sailing. There are certainly issues with multi-hulls but with a bit of model tweaking and adapting I am sure that they will be awesome for downwinding.

Even mono-hulled downwind boards can nose dive if they are not carefully designed and/or ridden. I would love to see these in Australia soon.

Downwinder
QLD, 2015 posts
24 May 2010 3:29PM
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byronmaui said...

$4200 US... Somewhere in that range. Gonna get a try soon.

Aloha


G'day Byronmaui
I'll be staying at the Maui Seaside Hotel from the 8th July till the Molokai race. Stick your head in come say G'day we go for a Maliko run STOKED
DW


mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
25 May 2010 2:34PM
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Downwinder said...

I'll be having a go on a Standamaran when I'm on Maui in July only 6 weeks to go STOKED I'll give you me feed back. May even bring on home to the Goldie?


Nice work, Phill. You were the first to bring a downwind board into Australia (as far as I know) and wouldn't it be ironic if you were also the first to bring back a cat? Good luck.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
25 May 2010 5:41PM
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mikeman said...

Downwinder said...

I'll be having a go on a Standamaran when I'm on Maui in July only 6 weeks to go STOKED I'll give you me feed back. May even bring on home to the Goldie?


Nice work, Phill. You were the first to bring a downwind board into Australia (as far as I know) and wouldn't it be ironic if you were also the first to bring back a cat? Good luck.



Yes but if the cat doesn't work as a downwind board, then Downwinder is going to have to change his name.

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
26 May 2010 12:30PM
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It will work, even if it needs further tweaking to get it right.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
26 May 2010 1:58PM
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mikeman said...

It will work, even if it needs further tweaking to get it right.


Nonetheless, we can still refer to Downwinder as Catman. Or Catwoman. Either way, black spandex, whiskers and long clawed gloves should be involved. Just don't wear boardies over the top.

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
26 May 2010 5:42PM
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PTWoody said...

mikeman said...

It will work, even if it needs further tweaking to get it right.


Nonetheless, we can still refer to Downwinder as Catman. Or Catwoman. Either way, black spandex, whiskers and long clawed gloves should be involved. Just don't wear boardies over the top.


I take it you haven't met Downwinder yet (or Iron Phil as he is also known as up here).

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
26 May 2010 5:51PM
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mikeman said...

PTWoody said...

mikeman said...

It will work, even if it needs further tweaking to get it right.


Nonetheless, we can still refer to Downwinder as Catman. Or Catwoman. Either way, black spandex, whiskers and long clawed gloves should be involved. Just don't wear boardies over the top.


I take it you haven't met Downwinder yet (or Iron Phil as he is also known as up here).


Right so definitely no boardies over the spandex.

Downwinder
QLD, 2015 posts
26 May 2010 6:25PM
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You're funny PTWoody
Nickname can be cruel or kind or just plane funny. Yes they use to call me Rooster before iRONPHIL when it came to picking up females. iRONPHIL came around because I would train hard.
see ya in da ocean PTWoody
DW

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
26 May 2010 6:44PM
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Downwinder said...

You're funny PTWoody
Nickname can be cruel or kind or just plane funny. Yes they use to call me Rooster before iRONPHIL when it came to picking up females. iRONPHIL came around because I would train hard.
see ya in da ocean PTWoody
DW




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byronmaui
448 posts
26 May 2010 5:01PM
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Downwinder give me a ring when your here. Winds are all time right now and smoking runs are happening.
I may get a test run and hopefully some vid action of a standamaran this weekend. Will post if I do.
Aloha

Downwinder
QLD, 2015 posts
26 May 2010 7:16PM
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byronmaui said...

Downwinder give me a ring when your here. Winds are all time right now and smoking runs are happening.
I may get a test run and hopefully some vid action of a standamaran this weekend. Will post if I do.
Aloha

G'day Byronmaui
Looking forward to meeting you Byron & doing a Maliko with you can't wait. I'm very envious wish I had Maliko in my back yard. Looking forward to your test drive standamaran vid.
Wind are looking epic hear tomorrow 20 -30 knots SSE winds 4ft South Swell so I'm going to do a paddle back from Brunswick Heads to Currumbin Alley 50km hope to break the 5 hour mark, its good training for the Molokai race
DW

WINDSURFnSNOW
NSW, 1612 posts
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29 May 2010 11:48AM
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I don't know if this was widely adhered to or if it has been updated but I found this link I saved last year that mentions the legality of catamarans in point 6.

International Surfing Assoc SUP rules 7-10-08

B. STAND UP PADDLE [SUP] RACING REGULATIONS:

1. Race schedule: Organizer’s Responsibility.
A race briefing for competitors is mandatory prior to each race. Within this briefing, course layout / description, event rules, safety issues and competitor questions will be covered.
2. Race Age / Group Categories:
These are flexible according to the event.
3. Race Craft & Specifications:
1. 12#8242;6#8243; Class Board
* Maximum length – 12#8242;6#8243;
* Maximum width – 33 inches
* Fixed Fin, no rudder
2. 14#8242; Class Board
* Maximum length – 14 feet
* Maximum width – 30 inches
* Minimum weight – 20 lbs [subject to review]
* Fixed Fin, no rudder
3. Open Class Board
* Minimum length – 14 feet, 1 inch, up to any length?
* Rudders allowed
4. General Race Rules [All classes]:
1. Single blade paddle to be used.
2. Rider must be standing at all times while paddling
3. Competitors must follow the designated set course, to be manned by water marshals and rescue staff.
4. The nose of the craft is the designated point for crossing the finish line when determining relative placing.
5. The finish and start lines must be designated by two buoys and legal competitors must have not crossed this line when the starter begins the race.
6. No extraneous aids are allowed. This includes, but is not limited to swim fins, engines, wind catching devices [i.e.: sails, baggy clothing, etc] and personal support teams. No twin hulls allowed (i.e.: catamarans)
7. Wetsuits and hats [sun protection] are permissible.
8. Competitors may be required to have an official mark / race vest and / or race number on their arm, which must remain on the individual throughout the event. No competitor shall be recorded as a finisher unless carrying the official mark / wearing the official vest and number on their arm.
9. Organizers reserve the right to accept, reject and cancel entries.
10. Protests must be made in writing and given to the Race Director within fifteen minutes of the announcement of the provisional results. All decisions of the Race Director will be final.
11. Race officials shall have the ultimate and final authority to remove a competitor from the race if the competitor is judged to be physically incapable of continuing the race without the risk of injury.
12. Each entrant must sign the indemnity declaration on the Entry Form before the event. If under 18, the parent or guardian must sign.
13. The organizers reserve the right to reject or cancel any entry.



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