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Serious fin question

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Created by Ted the Kiwi > 9 months ago, 2 Feb 2012
Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
2 Feb 2012 9:09AM
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I know we have a few resident experts on this site (one in-particular)!!!

Has anyone given the C-Drive fins a crack? They sound good and have lots of pretty colours.....I am thinking of getting a set for my short board.



Early in the development stage it became apparent that our design goal of producing a fin that generated more drive but gave up nothing in the way of manoeuvrability was not only possible, but a little short sighted. Over time, our R&D process made it increasingly clear that it was possible to create a fin that generated more drive and at the same time was more manoeuvrable. It was this revelation that was to fuel continued research and development over the ensuing years.

www.cdrivefins.com/




chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
2 Feb 2012 8:42AM
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i had a shark fin dumpling at yum cha the other day,oh and i dont like fins. im selling everything so i can buy a quiver of bodyboards

SP
10979 posts
2 Feb 2012 7:18AM
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Never tried them but coincidentally just read this on another forum

forum.realsurf.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17265&start=108

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
2 Feb 2012 9:29AM
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I have a set and have used them a bit. My set are actually too small for me to be used a straight tri-set in my wide tailed shortboards. I will try them next as rears in my Quad SUP. I usually use H2 sides or Inside Foiled MF Templates from FCS here with MRTFX in the front. It will be an interesting comparison.

They pretty much do as they describe. Offer drive from the base and a narrow tip to allow a bit of flex for the natural feeling. I know a couple of shapers who still use them religously.

Give them a go, they might be for you the best fins ever created.

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
2 Feb 2012 10:53AM
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SP said...

Never tried them but coincidentally just read this on another forum

forum.realsurf.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17265&start=108


Thanks SP - yeah that is what prompted me to ask. I had a quick read but was not convinced after it....partly because I did not know the characters responding! Although NC and Pridore are worthy !!!

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
2 Feb 2012 10:58AM
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CMC said...
Give them a go, they might be for you the best fins ever created


Thanks CMC - I might just do that! I like the idea of more drive and being loose at that same time.....something that seemed previously not possible....I am thinking of putting them on my Al Merrick POD - I need something to loosen it up a bit more but am reluctant to lose to much the other way.

Given your comment re too small for a wide tailed board - should I ear on the side of caution and go a size bigger?

riverider
TAS, 1100 posts
2 Feb 2012 12:00PM
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i used the thruster set on one board and the worked just as they say, i was very happy with them, when i put them in another board they just didn't seem to work as well.

SP
10979 posts
2 Feb 2012 10:45AM
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Ted the Kiwi said...

SP said...

Never tried them but coincidentally just read this on another forum

forum.realsurf.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17265&start=108


Thanks SP - yeah that is what prompted me to ask. I had a quick read but was not convinced after it....partly because I did not know the characters responding! Although NC and Pridore are worthy !!!



Hahaha Realsurf can be a bit like that funniest and possibliy one of the strangest forum on the net, the poo thread is gold.

I was actually looking for info on Future controllers, looking at a set for a wide tailed quad, anyone have any comments on them?

Locky24
QLD, 515 posts
2 Feb 2012 6:45PM
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Hey Guys,

Just off topic a little, but I am trying to find a set of timber fins for my new Quad.
They have to fit FCS plugs and trying to find them in size large.
Just trying to give my new sled a little old skool street cred
Have looked at the two big guys ( FCS and Shapers ) They do em for thrusters, but the don't do any timber fins for quads.
Have found some on the Reiley's site but they are over $ 200
Does anyone know of anyone other fin makers that may be doing these?

Cheers Locky.

BulldogPup
6657 posts
2 Feb 2012 6:01PM
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Riley Fins (aust) Balsa but still pricey

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
2 Feb 2012 6:17PM
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Looking at that video I can see how they may work.

I've done a Lacey for years playing with fins and setups.
Its all sorted on my HP boards a couple of years back.However on a log its another story.A 10 inch
single stranded worked well on my old redline which I sold and the
10 inch hatched on my current sunset board works well but the board
doesn't if that makes sense.I played with 8 and 9 inch fins on logs to
loosen them up but lost a sh-t load of drive which is not what logging's
about,there is a reason the board manufactures whack a 10 inch in a
log.

So if these fins do both its a win win,let us know how they go ,sounds
promising.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
3 Feb 2012 12:21PM
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There's a few things going on with these fins.

1) Long base - there's no doubt you get nice drive from long bases to fins.
2) The cut away - they talk of them releasing easily. On release, weight is transferred the front of the board, and onto the boards mid rails, allowing the rear of the board to start to pop out of the water, and the first thing to come out of the water is the long base, then all you're left with "in the water" is a little "GL" style fin, or little "thumb" style fin.

It would be great to give these guys the same fin template, with the "rear cut away", and get their feedback. It would probably be a dog of a fin, with poorer rail to rail release.

Large Merrick Fins also give nice drive.

My personal preference is definitely 1+2 set-ups and big Merricks (for rounded pins). (1+2 being Box single with side bites). But I haven't tried the C-Drives.

I definitely noticed less rail to rail release when trying out full sized side fins, with a box single fin. Just a case of "too much total fin area" I think.

McTavish's GXQ side fin set-up does work very nicely. Or just plain GX. I think GL is too small for me, and G3 on the sides is just a little bit too big, but probably a better option than the normal sized fins, which are roughly similar is area to G5's.

If you can get a free demo for the shorty, I'd go for it. As soon as you get OK conditions, you'll know within 2-3 waves if they are for you.

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
3 Feb 2012 8:10PM
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fins are sharp. you forgot that one hey simondo. far from comprehensive that post mate

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
3 Feb 2012 8:55PM
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boards are over rated, surfers are over rated.

fins rule

never tried those fins, don't look natural to me. nature rules

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
3 Feb 2012 7:02PM
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laceys lane said...

boards are over rated, surfers are over rated.

fins rule

never tried those fins, don't look natural to me. nature rules


Hey Hippy

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
3 Feb 2012 9:04PM
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62mac said...

laceys lane said...

boards are over rated, surfers are over rated.

fins rule

never tried those fins, don't look natural to me. nature rules


Hey Hippy


your the one on a longboard!!!!!!!!!! ya berry picker

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
3 Feb 2012 7:05PM
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Hippies eat McDonalds too

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
3 Feb 2012 9:15PM
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GizzieNZ
4102 posts
5 Feb 2012 7:25AM
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I can always ask pipefins? He has a variety of opinions

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
5 Feb 2012 10:16AM
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GizzieNZ said...

I can always ask pipefins? He has a variety of opinions


you kiwis are brilliant. oarsome idea bro

GizzieNZ
4102 posts
5 Feb 2012 9:57AM
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Towtally awesome

towball
4627 posts
5 Feb 2012 11:37AM
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Now pick on chrispy oarsome lol

GizzieNZ said...

Towtally awesome


chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
5 Feb 2012 3:53PM
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towball said...

Now pick on chrispy oarsome lol
GizzieNZ said...

Towtally awesome





that actually came from a NZ boxer by the name off david tua i think? he was on a wheel of fortune and asked for a "O" for awesome sorry bro

towball
4627 posts
5 Feb 2012 2:04PM
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Yep and the person that took the piss out of him was our local boy Shane Cameron BTW he's only a( NewZealand Boxer) when he wins other wise he's Samoan

chrispychru said...

towball said...

Now pick on chrispy oarsome lol
GizzieNZ said...

Towtally awesome





that actually came from a NZ boxer by the name off david tua i think? he was on a wheel of fortune and asked for a "O" for awesome sorry bro


Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
6 Feb 2012 1:30PM
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Thanks for all your thoughts re the fins fellas - I am thinking that I will dive in and give them a crack. I shall report back once I have had them out for a few sessions. Now I just need to work on what colour to get....................

SP
10979 posts
21 Feb 2012 10:47AM
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Ted the Kiwi said...

Thanks for all your thoughts re the fins fellas - I am thinking that I will dive in and give them a crack. I shall report back once I have had them out for a few sessions. Now I just need to work on what colour to get....................


Did you get a set Ted?

smh
NSW, 7269 posts
21 Feb 2012 1:53PM
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Ted the Kiwi said...

Thanks for all your thoughts re the fins fellas - I am thinking that I will dive in and give them a crack. I shall report back once I have had them out for a few sessions. Now I just need to work on what colour to get....................


The red one will make your board go quicker

tankchamp
90 posts
21 Feb 2012 11:24AM
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use the fins the shaper put in your board. after all he knows

SP
10979 posts
21 Feb 2012 2:22PM
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tankchamp said...

use the fins the shaper put in your board. after all he knows


Not really, most of the time they buy an installation kit. Boxes and fins. And they sure don't put the nice ones in the kit, for futures the quad is usually a vector 2 438s, standard construction.
So basically the cheapest ones.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
21 Feb 2012 2:45PM
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SP said...

tankchamp said...

use the fins the shaper put in your board. after all he knows


Not really, most of the time they buy an installation kit. Boxes and fins. And they sure don't put the nice ones in the kit, for futures the quad is usually a vector 2 438s, standard construction.
So basically the cheapest ones.



I think he ment size wise, and I have to agree. Ive tried many different fins and come back to the same size that a shaper recomended to me ages ago.
I generally concentrate on the fins construction ie flex more than anything these days. My faves are the DHD-2

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
21 Feb 2012 3:02PM
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I go with whatever Lacey recommends



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