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Created by Ted the Kiwi > 9 months ago, 29 Jan 2014
Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
29 Jan 2014 4:58PM
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of which seabreezer has had more boards? I always thought that SA had the most boards of anyone I have ever known but I am starting to think that SB might be a close rival for the title !

Thoughts?

surfanimal
NSW, 1643 posts
29 Jan 2014 6:14PM
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Ted the Kiwi said..

of which seabreezer has had more boards? I always thought that SA had the most boards of anyone I have ever known but I am starting to think that SB might be a close rival for the title !

Thoughts?


Jim and I go a ways back and we've bought and sold a few boards to and from each other along the way over the past 10 or so years - hook up's in Coffs, Port Mc and via Surf Cargo !

His photo's last week had some memories for me;

The yellow Tolhurst Mal with the cloth inly was a classic.
The yellow Noosa 66 which was one of Bob's original 10 built in 1999 was a beauty.
The Wegener Model A which was the original made for Anna.....

At a pinch, I'd say I'd have had more boards however Jim has had a greater variety of shapes and history as mine were only ever bought to ride and I stuck to some basic principles and didn't ever diversify into 70's and 80's shapes.

Nowadays, I'm down to a half dozen Eastcoast boards having exhausted my knowledge base of 'all the others' I've ridden, enjoying the product and not putting so much coin into my passion.





surfanimal
NSW, 1643 posts
29 Jan 2014 6:29PM
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I should add, I'm waiting for this baby to arrive !





Teacake
TAS, 1099 posts
29 Jan 2014 7:09PM
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supanimal said..

I should add, I'm waiting for this baby to arrive !







How big? Let me know how it goes!

Tom.

wavelength
1195 posts
29 Jan 2014 4:16PM
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Another quality post Surfanimal I know bamboo and technology help with the strength of a board but I still can't get my head around a full mal that's 2.5 inches thick. Even the feel of the rail seems odd to me if it's under 2.75'' and I prefer closer to 3 in a longboard. But then again, i ain't no expert. I come here to get the good mail.
Love many of the boards you and your friends have shown us.
Cheers.

Edit: I suppose I could start a "How thick" thread, but that might be asking for trouble.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
29 Jan 2014 8:00PM
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Wavelength, regarding thickness, Longboards have so much area that eventually the area gets them going, versus volume.
But 2"7/8 will naturally provide more volume than 2"1/2... (Assume same template and rocker, etc). A little extra volume will make it easier to paddle... Obviously.

Take the 9'0 comp board that SA is getting... 2"1/2 will suit 65kg to 85kg, and 3" thick would be better suited to 80kg to 100kg... In my opinion!

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
29 Jan 2014 8:03PM
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Do not forget the extra float of the EPS foam though Simondo. Some say its 20% - I personally think its closer to 10 - 15% from what I have ridden. I am picking up a new EPS tom so when I get a chance I will do a test between a couple of my other boards that are of similar volume and report back.

So at the moment SA owns less boards than SB but maybe just maybe overtime you have owned more I am thinking

Teacake
TAS, 1099 posts
29 Jan 2014 8:22PM
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I am picking up a new EPS tom so when I get a chance I will do a test between a couple of my other boards that are of similar volume and report back.



Got to stop abbreviating tomorrow with tom, so confusing while I read!

TOM.

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
29 Jan 2014 8:26PM
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Sorry TOM I shall do my best to stop this behaviour tom but the problem is that I have always used the abbreviation tom long before TOM came to the greenroom. What would TOM suggest I use instead of tom ?

Teacake
TAS, 1099 posts
29 Jan 2014 8:40PM
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Sorry TOM I shall do my best to stop this behaviour tom but the problem is that I have always used the abbreviation tom long before TOM came to the greenroom. What would TOM suggest I use instead of tom ?


Haha, Maybe I should just change my name? Easy fix Teddly, use tk or teacake from now on so I don't get confused!

Maybe I was on the greenroom for a long time I just never posted or made an account? Maybe I was here for longer?

Or have you been on it since the internet was first invented?

TK.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
29 Jan 2014 8:22PM
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Do not forget the extra float of the EPS foam though Simondo. Some say its 20% - I personally think its closer to 10 - 15% from what I have ridden. I am picking up a new EPS tom so when I get a chance I will do a test between a couple of my other boards that are of similar volume and report back.

So at the moment SA owns less boards than SB but maybe just maybe overtime you have owned more I am thinking




i totally agree with ted, not about MJ, but the bit about the eps thingie bobbie..

last shortie i had and liked was a dhd coffee bean shape and eps glassed by hayden with his pat. flex system- champ board for me coming of epoxy 666's

surfbroker
NSW, 1488 posts
29 Jan 2014 9:24PM
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supanimal said..

Ted the Kiwi said..

of which seabreezer has had more boards? I always thought that SA had the most boards of anyone I have ever known but I am starting to think that SB might be a close rival for the title !

Thoughts?


Jim and I go a ways back and we've bought and sold a few boards to and from each other along the way over the past 10 or so years - hook up's in Coffs, Port Mc and via Surf Cargo !

His photo's last week had some memories for me;

The yellow Tolhurst Mal with the cloth inly was a classic.
The yellow Noosa 66 which was one of Bob's original 10 built in 1999 was a beauty.
The Wegener Model A which was the original made for Anna.....

At a pinch, I'd say I'd have had more boards however Jim has had a greater variety of shapes and history as mine were only ever bought to ride and I stuck to some basic principles and didn't ever diversify into 70's and 80's shapes.

Nowadays, I'm down to a half dozen Eastcoast boards having exhausted my knowledge base of 'all the others' I've ridden, enjoying the product and not putting so much coin into my passion.





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Ah SA..you made me laugh there...we sure have seen some..lol..you'd outdo me by a country mile....dont we wish we'd kept many of them..those that you mentioned top the list.

Like you I've been through the epoxy and foam mix ..and they all have a place,but now appreciate the craftsmanship of hand made.

It's been great to view first hand the different shapes/rails/etc from the different eras and I really think that a quality custom handmade board is worth every cent of the money asked.

BUT...to answer the question..SA is the board King.

surfanimal
NSW, 1643 posts
29 Jan 2014 9:25PM
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Thanks guys.

Whilst 2 1/2 is a tad thin to most (and longboarding generally) and I would ordinarily prefer 3 in a poly board, I do agree that being epoxy with the bamboo wrap actually making it slightly thicker than the 2 1/2 stated, I'd think it will be the equivalent a full 2 7/8 thick.

I've also lost 17kg in the past year and am now sitting at 86 1/2 kg. A few years back I had an 8'2 x 2 7/8 Outer Island poly super mal and it ripped and I was around 90kg.

.....so I'm keen to have this as a beach break throw around and a good Cronulla Point board on solid days.

I'll let you know how it goes but I'm stoked to be getting the 9'0....and maybe the 8'0 too.



Teacake
TAS, 1099 posts
29 Jan 2014 9:48PM
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Thanks guys.

Whilst 2 1/2 is a tad thin to most (and longboarding generally) and I would ordinarily prefer 3 in a poly board, I do agree that being epoxy with the bamboo wrap actually making it slightly thicker than the 2 1/2 stated, I'd think it will be the equivalent a full 2 7/8 thick.

I've also lost 17kg in the past year and am now sitting at 86 1/2 kg. A few years back I had an 8'2 x 2 7/8 Outer Island poly super mal and it ripped and I was around 90kg.

.....so I'm keen to have this as a beach break throw around and a good Cronulla Point board on solid days.

I'll let you know how it goes but I'm stoked to be getting the 9'0....and maybe the 8'0 too.





I would love this for an actual comp board, a shame that our regulations require us to ride no smaller than 9'1.

Might have to get an 8'0 for the fun of having a shorter mal I can throw around!

Tom.

surfbroker
NSW, 1488 posts
30 Jan 2014 8:06AM
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supanimal said..

Thanks guys.

Whilst 2 1/2 is a tad thin to most (and longboarding generally) and I would ordinarily prefer 3 in a poly board, I do agree that being epoxy with the bamboo wrap actually making it slightly thicker than the 2 1/2 stated, I'd think it will be the equivalent a full 2 7/8 thick.

I've also lost 17kg in the past year and am now sitting at 86 1/2 kg. A few years back I had an 8'2 x 2 7/8 Outer Island poly super mal and it ripped and I was around 90kg.

.....so I'm keen to have this as a beach break throw around and a good Cronulla Point board on solid days.

I'll let you know how it goes but I'm stoked to be getting the 9'0....and maybe the 8'0 too.






Geez SA..17kgs in the past year..awesome, congratulations..at that weight can I recommend an 7'6" Goddard quad.





surfanimal
NSW, 1643 posts
30 Jan 2014 9:29AM
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Nice !

Are you loving that ? What are the other numbers / dims ?

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
30 Jan 2014 11:33AM
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Ted the Kiwi said..

of which seabreezer has had more boards? I always thought that SA had the most boards of anyone I have ever known but I am starting to think that SB might be a close rival for the title !

Thoughts?


Dr Funk has a few floating around...wasn't he up to 15 or 16?

I have a mate down the road he is up past 50 and stashes them at his mum and dad's so his wife doesn't find out...mostly old Twinnes

surfbroker
NSW, 1488 posts
31 Jan 2014 8:02AM
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Nice !

Are you loving that ? What are the other numbers / dims ?




No..That ones not mine,it's for sale..have a look at Ronnies site goddardsurfboards.com.au
Mine is an 8' 22" 2 7/8" quad..great board and quality..might suit the new Trimanimal !

Cuttlefish
QLD, 1332 posts
31 Jan 2014 7:18AM
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supanimal said..

Thanks guys.

Whilst 2 1/2 is a tad thin to most (and longboarding generally) and I would ordinarily prefer 3 in a poly board, I do agree that being epoxy with the bamboo wrap actually making it slightly thicker than the 2 1/2 stated, I'd think it will be the equivalent a full 2 7/8 thick.

I've also lost 17kg in the past year and am now sitting at 86 1/2 kg. A few years back I had an 8'2 x 2 7/8 Outer Island poly super mal and it ripped and I was around 90kg.

.....so I'm keen to have this as a beach break throw around and a good Cronulla Point board on solid days.

I'll let you know how it goes but I'm stoked to be getting the 9'0....and maybe the 8'0 too.





Somone say Outer island...?
http://www.zaksurfboards.com.au/605-outer-island-80-x-21-1-2-x-2-3-4/

surfanimal
NSW, 1643 posts
31 Jan 2014 9:25AM
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Cuttlefish said..

supanimal said..

Thanks guys.

Whilst 2 1/2 is a tad thin to most (and longboarding generally) and I would ordinarily prefer 3 in a poly board, I do agree that being epoxy with the bamboo wrap actually making it slightly thicker than the 2 1/2 stated, I'd think it will be the equivalent a full 2 7/8 thick.

I've also lost 17kg in the past year and am now sitting at 86 1/2 kg. A few years back I had an 8'2 x 2 7/8 Outer Island poly super mal and it ripped and I was around 90kg.

.....so I'm keen to have this as a beach break throw around and a good Cronulla Point board on solid days.

I'll let you know how it goes but I'm stoked to be getting the 9'0....and maybe the 8'0 too.





Somone say Outer island...?
http://www.zaksurfboards.com.au/605-outer-island-80-x-21-1-2-x-2-3-4/


This online now - let me say, I rode it a hell of a lot more than 3 times and that was until 2008 when I sold it !

www.soulsurf.com.au/vintage-secondhand-surfboards/modern-mals/outer-island-longboard-online







freshiedude
9 posts
31 Jan 2014 12:15PM
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supanimal said..

Cuttlefish said..

supanimal said..

Thanks guys.

Whilst 2 1/2 is a tad thin to most (and longboarding generally) and I would ordinarily prefer 3 in a poly board, I do agree that being epoxy with the bamboo wrap actually making it slightly thicker than the 2 1/2 stated, I'd think it will be the equivalent a full 2 7/8 thick.

I've also lost 17kg in the past year and am now sitting at 86 1/2 kg. A few years back I had an 8'2 x 2 7/8 Outer Island poly super mal and it ripped and I was around 90kg.

.....so I'm keen to have this as a beach break throw around and a good Cronulla Point board on solid days.

I'll let you know how it goes but I'm stoked to be getting the 9'0....and maybe the 8'0 too.





Somone say Outer island...?
http://www.zaksurfboards.com.au/605-outer-island-80-x-21-1-2-x-2-3-4/


This online now - let me say, I rode it a hell of a lot more than 3 times and that was until 2008 when I sold it !

www.soulsurf.com.au/vintage-secondhand-surfboards/modern-mals/outer-island-longboard-online









freshiedude
9 posts
31 Jan 2014 12:18PM
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freshiedude said..

supanimal said..

Cuttlefish said..

supanimal said..

Thanks guys.

Whilst 2 1/2 is a tad thin to most (and longboarding generally) and I would ordinarily prefer 3 in a poly board, I do agree that being epoxy with the bamboo wrap actually making it slightly thicker than the 2 1/2 stated, I'd think it will be the equivalent a full 2 7/8 thick.

I've also lost 17kg in the past year and am now sitting at 86 1/2 kg. A few years back I had an 8'2 x 2 7/8 Outer Island poly super mal and it ripped and I was around 90kg.

.....so I'm keen to have this as a beach break throw around and a good Cronulla Point board on solid days.

I'll let you know how it goes but I'm stoked to be getting the 9'0....and maybe the 8'0 too.





Somone say Outer island...?
http://www.zaksurfboards.com.au/605-outer-island-80-x-21-1-2-x-2-3-4/


This online now - let me say, I rode it a hell of a lot more than 3 times and that was until 2008 when I sold it !

www.soulsurf.com.au/vintage-secondhand-surfboards/modern-mals/outer-island-longboard-online











Hey Chris (SA) saw that for sale & offered them under $1000 but they want $1350 for a board made in 2007. Could of got off you cheaper back then! I still ride occasionally the 8'6 I got off you but I only use on special occasions. 8fter looks nice which Cuttlefish posted...

surfanimal
NSW, 1643 posts
31 Jan 2014 3:33PM
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Hey mate, how's things ?

Glad you've still got the red devil - that was a beautiful board !

I'm sure the 9'1 is still in sweet condition but the claim of 3 sessions was exhausted within 24 hours of me owning it let alone 7 years later.

The 8'0 does look neat but you've got the real deal when he was in his prime in your shed IMHO.









freshiedude
9 posts
31 Jan 2014 12:44PM
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Al

l'll Good buddy just trying a get a few surf in these days with two small kids! When you move to the Northern Beaches send me a message. Amongst my large and growing quiver I also have a near new 8'1x22x23/4 Diverse Dynocore with a Cork top. Only used it once but wow what an easy board to paddle & catch waves also its nice ad floaty with the EPS core.

wavelength
1195 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:28PM
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Simondo said..

Wavelength, regarding thickness, Longboards have so much area that eventually the area gets them going, versus volume.
But 2"7/8 will naturally provide more volume than 2"1/2... (Assume same template and rocker, etc). A little extra volume will make it easier to paddle... Obviously.

Take the 9'0 comp board that SA is getting... 2"1/2 will suit 65kg to 85kg, and 3" thick would be better suited to 80kg to 100kg... In my opinion!


Thanks Simondo. I have had a heap of shortboards and a few long ones and I guess if I can enjoy a 6'6 egg at 2"1/2 I should be able to get my head around a longboard of the same thickness... but I because i avoid the crowded points to scrounge the punchier beachbreaks may be I always picture them in two pieces when they are that thin.

Love the plan shapes on just about every Mitchell Rae board I've seen, short or long. Great sticker/logo too, plus the eyes of course. That might be another thread - great longboard logos. Takayama's is kinda cool too. And the old Hayden one . . . and . . .

Cuttlefish
QLD, 1332 posts
31 Jan 2014 6:34PM
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That's a nice one Justin,
is it a GM?
Still have my GM. Ride it when its big. So hasn't had an outing for a long time.
I would have grabbed that Outer Island 8'er but I couldn't help myself with a groovy 6'10" Wegener single fin I spotted a couple of days ago.
Plus I'm about to buy a used VW LT35 van (board carrying paradise) and still hustling up the $'s for it.
I took photos of some of the boards to help fund it but I don't know if I can part with any of them.
Well except for the McCoy which is going to a new home tomorrow.
Selling that was bad enough.

surfbroker
NSW, 1488 posts
31 Jan 2014 9:05PM
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supanimal said..

Hey mate, how's things ?

Glad you've still got the red devil - that was a beautiful board !

I'm sure the 9'1 is still in sweet condition but the claim of 3 sessions was exhausted within 24 hours of me owning it let alone 7 years later.

The 8'0 does look neat but you've got the real deal when he was in his prime in your shed IMHO.












Ahh..Memories...





freshiedude
9 posts
31 Jan 2014 6:08PM
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Hey Pete
Yep it's a mal not a GM but super nice. I really like the Dynocore technology, this board is a very similar shape to that carbon DVS 8ft I had but paddles much better. Shame you are selling the Zot what was wrong with it? Thoughts on that single fin zap on eBay at the moment? So you got that orange & white Wegener that I had my eyes on!! Let me know how it goes!

Cuttlefish
QLD, 1332 posts
31 Jan 2014 8:51PM
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I loved the zot.
Great bottom turn to vertical reo board.
But if you need some cash and you have a McCoy in the shortboard quiver they have legendary re-sale value.
I liked the zot infinitely more than the zap.
Way more user friendly.
Yep, the Weg is headed my way. Lots of volume.
I'll keep you posted.



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