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The model t takayama Ted Version

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Created by Ted the Kiwi > 9 months ago, 14 Aug 2012
BulldogPup
6657 posts
25 Oct 2012 5:58PM
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Sweet Ted cheers - she'll look the shizz I betcha a 6 pack on it

arkgee
NSW, 639 posts
25 Oct 2012 9:56PM
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never seen it done like that before Ted...but hey its the end product that counts.....so she has one layer on the deck and an inlay on the bottom right?...I am assuming you will now glass clear over the deck...if that is the case, make sure it laps well over the join on the bottom, or else you will have no strength lengthtwise....you will have impact strength but nothing lengthwise....its the glass curving over the rail that gives it strength.....as well as it will crack along the join you have created on the bottom....I would also put a small filler coat around that join first so you can sand down any high spots from weave standing up....otherwise you will have a nightmare trying to glass over them and not get bubbles...then you will have to sand through the glass you have just put down to make it flat...thus losing the integrity of that layer....good luck mate your working very neat...those thongs still look resin free

Daneli
QLD, 1538 posts
25 Oct 2012 9:02PM
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Awesome stuff !

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
25 Oct 2012 10:39PM
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Thanks argkee - thats great advice. I had intended to wrap the 2nd layer of top glass well beyond the lap point. I will definitely do this!! I can see your point about adding a filler coat now and sanding it back a bit. I might try and do this tom as I cannot do anything else until my decal comes back from the printer. I should have held off doing the bottom until it came but got too excited. I had seen a few boards done like this on swaylocks and a couple of glassing videos I had seen as well as the other way - which on reflection I should have done. Oh well its a bit late now - hopefully it will be ok. I will make sure this is a lesson well learned! And yes the top layer will be clear. As for the thongs - lets just say its a slow road for me and Bucko keeps a very clean work environment so I am terrified of messing it up.

Thanks for yr advice - much appreciated.

BulldogPup
6657 posts
25 Oct 2012 7:51PM
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arkgee said...
never seen it done like that before Ted...but hey its the end product that counts.....so she has one layer on the deck and an inlay on the bottom right?...I am assuming you will now glass clear over the deck...if that is the case, make sure it laps well over the join on the bottom, or else you will have no strength lengthtwise....you will have impact strength but nothing lengthwise....its the glass curving over the rail that gives it strength.....as well as it will crack along the join you have created on the bottom....I would also put a small filler coat around that join first so you can sand down any high spots from weave standing up....otherwise you will have a nightmare trying to glass over them and not get bubbles...then you will have to sand through the glass you have just put down to make it flat...thus losing the integrity of that layer....good luck mate your working very neat...those thongs still look resin free


You are an icon RG - thats all I have to say oh and WOW

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
26 Oct 2012 12:55PM
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Thanks for the advice arkgee - spoke to a few seasoned lads at the beach this morning who scorned me for my incompetence as well I have just put some filler coat through the join and its all ready for the top layer of glass - that will wrap well past the join! No more work on the board now until my decals come back from the printer sadly.

Prawnhead
NSW, 1317 posts
26 Oct 2012 5:34PM
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great job ted look forward to seeing it next weekend if i get off my lazy arse and drive up the track
(are you are wearing prescription specs ?
maybe try an "old pair "of prescription
specs while you are glassing because once resin gets on your lenses
it sticks like sh8t to a blanket )

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
1 Nov 2012 2:18PM
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Did the final layer of glassing on the top this morning. Very hot day here which made for some interesting times but we got away with it thanks to a 3 man pronged attack - Dingo just happened to be floating around at the crucial time - thanks!! Next week it will be time for the finish coast, sanding, plug and fin box then a polish - need to get it done so I can take it to Byron. Starting to get very excited now.








doggie
WA, 15849 posts
1 Nov 2012 11:19AM
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Lookin good Teddy

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
1 Nov 2012 2:24PM
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Thanks Doggie - a few bits not as flash as they could have been with the mix trying to gel on us before we were ready but they should sand out pretty well. Its a big board to glass so 3 sets of hands on deck was required!

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
1 Nov 2012 12:07PM
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Ted the Kiwi said...
Thanks Doggie - a few bits not as flash as they could have been with the mix trying to gel on us before we were ready but they should sand out pretty well. Its a big board to glass so 3 sets of hands on deck was required!


Can you get a type of retarder? When I was a painter we had two pack retarders and slow reducers for hotter weather. It gave us alot mote time to work with the paint. If you could get this type of addidive it would be alot easier to do a big job like this.
Just a thought

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
1 Nov 2012 2:54PM
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go hard ted norah head bravo sir,that is so so fine

i know somebody is selling a mctavish ufo with a great art design from here

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
1 Nov 2012 12:59PM
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Dont tell me asea is selling his ufo

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
1 Nov 2012 4:10PM
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doggie said...
Ted the Kiwi said...
Thanks Doggie - a few bits not as flash as they could have been with the mix trying to gel on us before we were ready but they should sand out pretty well. Its a big board to glass so 3 sets of hands on deck was required!


Can you get a type of retarder? When I was a painter we had two pack retarders and slow reducers for hotter weather. It gave us alot mote time to work with the paint. If you could get this type of addidive it would be alot easier to do a big job like this.
Just a thought


The trick is to use less hardener on a hot day - or not do it at all -which is probably better but I am running out of time. That mix is 1% at 25 degrees takes about 15 mins to go off, so at 0.5% double it....maybe we should have gone a 1/4%!! The other option is you can use the UV stuff and then you have lots of time to work it and then you stick out in the sun afterwards and it hardens up in minutes. Its a learning process for me

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
1 Nov 2012 1:20PM
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great logo Ted

obct
NSW, 3487 posts
1 Nov 2012 4:36PM
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yes, nice work Ted.

Now get your arse out of that glassing shed and start packing for PP. chop chop

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
1 Nov 2012 4:38PM
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been waiting on someone to come back to me all day - finally got something back 30 mins ago - so I am rapidly putting together the finishing touches to the proposal - once send has been hit I will hit the road - sometime before midnight I hope!

BulldogPup
6657 posts
1 Nov 2012 2:01PM
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real good Ted . coming along nicely mate

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
1 Nov 2012 2:42PM
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Ted the Kiwi said...
doggie said...
Ted the Kiwi said...
Thanks Doggie - a few bits not as flash as they could have been with the mix trying to gel on us before we were ready but they should sand out pretty well. Its a big board to glass so 3 sets of hands on deck was required!


Can you get a type of retarder? When I was a painter we had two pack retarders and slow reducers for hotter weather. It gave us alot mote time to work with the paint. If you could get this type of addidive it would be alot easier to do a big job like this.
Just a thought


The trick is to use less hardener on a hot day - or not do it at all -which is probably better but I am running out of time. That mix is 1% at 25 degrees takes about 15 mins to go off, so at 0.5% double it....maybe we should have gone a 1/4%!! The other option is you can use the UV stuff and then you have lots of time to work it and then you stick out in the sun afterwards and it hardens up in minutes. Its a learning process for me


I think I might use a UV resin for my build, looks alot easier

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
1 Nov 2012 6:07PM
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doggie said...
I think I might use a UV resin for my build, looks alot easier


Yes - I recond thats a good idea. Make sure you block out the light coming into your glassing bay. When are you starting a thread so we can follow what you are making?

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
1 Nov 2012 3:53PM
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Ted the Kiwi said...
doggie said...
I think I might use a UV resin for my build, looks alot easier


Yes - I recond thats a good idea. Make sure you block out the light coming into your glassing bay. When are you starting a thread so we can follow what you are making?



Ive got the blank and have done the out line but its going to be for a mate (originally for me) so I need to cut it down as he is smaller than me.

I will start a thread when I manage to start it, I still need to get my shead in order

I was going to coppy a Gunther Rohan that I had but thats long gone now so its going from a 6,2 to 5,11. Not much of an adjustment.

Ive got another blank that Im thinking of doing a egg thing like Arkgee's free range egg.

Tassiedevel
TAS, 2249 posts
1 Nov 2012 7:58PM
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Ive got another blank that Im thinking of doing a egg thing like Arkgee's free range egg.


Great little boards Doggie . I am busting for a go on my kids board but he wont let me touch it until he has a go on the new nimbus

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
1 Nov 2012 5:24PM
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Tassiedevel said...


Ive got another blank that Im thinking of doing a egg thing like Arkgee's free range egg.


Great little boards Doggie . I am busting for a go on my kids board but he wont let me touch it until he has a go on the new nimbus


I might have to get a small blank for that, but blanks are not my problem time is

boofy
NSW, 2110 posts
3 Nov 2012 9:48PM
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MCTEDISH the new Mctavish heaps more character and way more collectable love the board Ted and have loved following this thread

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
7 Nov 2012 7:07PM
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Sorry fellas been flat out this week so have been lying low. Managed to sneak a few more hours in on the board though. Put the plug and fin box in today and did the filler coat on the deck. Will sand it tom and then do the polish coast and sand on Friday. If all goes well it will be finished on Friday night ready for the 4am road trip to Wategoes on Sat for its inarguable test ride. Fingers crossed / hopefully. Its been a mission but I have loved the experience. CMC will be pleased to know that I have a new found respect for shapers and glassers....although if you have the right tools and setup then life could be a lot smoother / easier














62mac
WA, 24860 posts
7 Nov 2012 4:17PM
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Looking good Ted mate,you will have to finish it before you do you road trip north.

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
7 Nov 2012 6:58PM
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****ing show off's.....pffft

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
7 Nov 2012 8:21PM
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62mac said...
Looking good Ted mate,you will have to finish it before you do you road trip north.


Thanks Mac - I hope so!

I am stoked with how light it is......should be a lot of fun I am a hoping.

Lfish
402 posts
7 Nov 2012 5:48PM
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Lookin' good Ted

Great job......

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
7 Nov 2012 7:15PM
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Lfish said...
Lookin' good Ted

Great job......


about time the board maker chimed in



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