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White Water tips for a newbie

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Created by OceanBlue64 > 9 months ago, 22 May 2011
OceanBlue64
VIC, 980 posts
22 May 2011 7:48PM
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How the hell do you get a mal out through a lot of white water? I found myself just doing a bit of a pushup and letting it wash between me and the board but at times just seemed to be getting nowhere.

Any tips for getting out?

obct
NSW, 3487 posts
22 May 2011 8:37PM
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When you work it out, make sure I'm the first to know

Just kidding, I am getting better but I still get caught occasionally when the sets don't behave the way they're supposed to.

I use an arsenal of tricks.

1. Rips are your friends find them and love them.

2. If it's only waist high, I stay off the board and walk it out as far as I can

3. If I see a biggy coming towards me I do a mental calculation of what my best option would be to avoid it breaking on top of my head.

option a. Paddle like all the bejeezus and punch through the lip
b. slow down a tad so you know it's lost it's juice and Eskimo roll under the wash (more on an esky later)
c. And I really hate to admit this, but if I'm too late for either of those options and a really big one is about to hammer me, I will dive down beside the board and swim as deep as possible and let the leggy do all the work. I do try to make sure I check for others close by but I've even seen big wave riders do this when they have no other option so I don't feel so bad.

4. Lifting you body and tunneling the water through is a good technique on the really small wash because it also has the effect of pushing the nose under the wash. If you can manager to make your feet jump over the wave as it washed through, then it will save you even more lost ground.

5. The esky roll, this is something I have a love hate relationship with simply because it knackers me to have to keep climbing back on the board but there's simply no way to avoid it if a monster wash is heading your way. Just make sure that as you roll you keep a good hold of the board because it's what's going to a make it easy for you to pop back to the surface. Otherwise you'll find yourself getting churned around not knowing what way is up or down and groping around for your leggy in the hope that it will lead you to some air.

6. Rips are your friends find them and love them. (yes I know I already said that)

7. Walk back up the beach and start again from the easy spot. The older I get the more I do this, particular at my local bommy. I can't resist an inside section and I find myself back in the middle of the wash zone and near the beach. Rather than try to fight my way out, I simply walk back up to the rip and start all over again. I was surfing near the south end of Diggers beach a few weeks back and the rip was such a gem that I rode every wave to the sand and just walked back to the southern point to get back out.

I'm sure there's heaps of other tricks, they're just the ones this old fart uses.




62mac
WA, 24860 posts
22 May 2011 7:30PM
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OceanBlue64 said...

How the hell do you get a mal out through a lot of white water? I found myself just doing a bit of a pushup and letting it wash between me and the board

Any tips for getting out?


I when able paddle around the break and then make my way to the take off spot,if caught out I get some paddle power going and hit the white wash with all my mite.
This will not work all the time,I do as you said above most of the time or I will lay as low as I can to make me and the board as streamline as possible.It all depends where you surf,not a fan of the eskimo roll.I also will do the board bail and dive as deep as I can,but I always check behind me,if there is anyone behind me I'll just take it on the head.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
22 May 2011 7:44PM
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Thanks for the info. guys...I too am new. I find surfing so much more challenging than any sport I have tried...exhausting if you don't have a good strategy.

OceanBlue64
VIC, 980 posts
22 May 2011 10:51PM
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Looks like I need to be a little smarter when paddling out. Maybe spend a little more time on the beach looking at the waves and planning rather than my usual 'get into the water as quick as possible cos I just want to get out'.

TheGoodDr
SA, 216 posts
22 May 2011 11:42PM
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Try duck diving the same as on a short board. The timing is more critical on a mal but with some practice is do-able.
Weight over the nose, both arms straight, square to the wave, get the nose as deep as possible.
When wave passes, allow nose to come up and use combination of wave power and your own weight by foot on the tail, to force back of board down and nose up.
Help stabilise board by sliding one dominant hand along rail to front of nose.

Probably becomes too hard once double head height on mal

cRAZY Canuk
NSW, 2528 posts
23 May 2011 4:35AM
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^ if your going to have a crack at the duck dive you need to angle the board so you can push it down.

I can'tduck dive white water , just can't get all that foam deep enough. Pick your spot and timing and paddle like a man possesed!

dotcomdotau
WA, 505 posts
23 May 2011 7:46AM
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I'm in the same boat as obct and mac62, 1. you either paddle like crazy 2. back out of it or 3. dive and swim under (making sure there is no-one behind you) to collect your board.
Speaking from experience, of the eskimo only, I was clouted doing the eskimo roll when I did not get it right and the wave came down on my board and smacked me on the noggin. I try to turn my head to the side now if I have to eskimo. Rather the side of the face than the top of my head copping it.
Saying that, I'd rather swim under if possible.
The rip thing is the go but you'll get some strength into your arms/shoulders if no.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
23 May 2011 10:12AM
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The "turtle roll over" works too. I'll search Youtube.

You'll know some of this anyway.... But worth watching.... Youtube will give you other similar / related video's to also watch....



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doggie
WA, 15849 posts
23 May 2011 11:47AM
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Buy a 6,2

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
23 May 2011 2:19PM
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PML at the expert longboarder.

Note doggie,he said longboards are harder to turn and take more skill than a shortboard

He also said the more shortboarders you see in the line up,is the perfect time to paddle out and steal ALL the waves[}:)]

I'll watch that video again to make sure I didn't miss any other tips from the expert

Just on the quite,I think he was struggling a tab for an expert

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
23 May 2011 3:59PM
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62mac said...

PML at the expert longboarder.

Note doggie,he said longboards are harder to turn and take more skill than a shortboard

He also said the more shortboarders you see in the line up,is the perfect time to paddle out and steal ALL the waves[}:)]

I'll watch that video again to make sure I didn't miss any other tips from the expert

Just on the quite,I think he was struggling a tab for an expert


Haha

towball
4627 posts
26 May 2011 4:54AM
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Get a SUP mate its much easyer standing up suprised doggie & mac havn't told you this

OceanBlue64
VIC, 980 posts
26 May 2011 8:25AM
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towball said...

Get a SUP mate its much easyer standing up suprised doggie & mac havn't told you this


But I dont want to follow the new trends etc just to look cool If I want to stand on a table top, I will just go get my hypersonic windsurfer out of the shed and go for a sail on that

towball
4627 posts
26 May 2011 7:05AM
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Ha Ha your not the fish I was looking for , I'm 95kgs 9'6"x23x3 I find easyer to push through than 9'6"x23x31/8" but I can paddle a sup out the back in 1/4 of the time ,takes skill but its fact . Hope thats some help.

OceanBlue64 said...

towball said...

Get a SUP mate its much easyer standing up suprised doggie & mac havn't told you this


But I dont want to follow the new trends etc just to look cool If I want to stand on a table top, I will just go get my hypersonic windsurfer out of the shed and go for a sail on that


62mac
WA, 24860 posts
26 May 2011 8:38AM
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LOL was it mac-fish or dog-fish towballor both haha.

Good onya oceanblue for sticking it up those sup'ers haha

towball
4627 posts
26 May 2011 9:11AM
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Yer bumed out there ,I see you guys had a win last night

62mac said...

LOL was it mac-fish or dog-fish towballor both haha.

Good onya oceanblue for sticking it up those sup'ers haha


62mac
WA, 24860 posts
26 May 2011 9:26AM
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Yep,but every days a win living in good old QLD

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
26 May 2011 10:20AM
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OceanBlue64 said...

towball said...

Get a SUP mate its much easyer standing up suprised doggie & mac havn't told you this


But I dont want to follow the new trends etc just to look cool If I want to stand on a table top, I will just go get my hypersonic windsurfer out of the shed and go for a sail on that


Hehe, you need to hang in the SUP room for a while

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
26 May 2011 11:04AM
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Don't do it unless your smashed or just don't go there



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