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A interesting point of view on Sharks.

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Created by jbshack > 9 months ago, 18 Nov 2012
katana
WA, 644 posts
22 Nov 2012 8:35PM
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the application was logded yesterday,fingers crossed.

Kneeling
WA, 166 posts
22 Nov 2012 8:57PM
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Great news Dave but knowing the system it will take some time to get anything out of them but there is an election soon so fingers crossed maybe the emperor could do some live testing

MickPC
8266 posts
23 Nov 2012 6:07PM
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katana said...
the application was logded yesterday,fingers crossed.



Nice, best of luck mate : )

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
24 Nov 2012 11:35AM
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Dave if you need further support getting a grant maybe a few letters of recommendations from customers, breezers? You never know.

Our state government is advertising $300000 grants to help develop products so if they don't get on board with you then once again I'd be a bit upset

Hope it all works out

AndreC
WA, 512 posts
4 Dec 2012 9:26AM
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There should be a new word invented called"Sharkanoya" Interesting we want to fight the same imbalance we created in the first place. HUMANS are really dumb for highly evolved creatures.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
4 Dec 2012 10:53AM
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AndreC said...There should be a new word invented called"Sharkanoya" Interesting we want to fight the same imbalance we created in the first place. HUMANS are really dumb for highly evolved creatures.


I think this sums it up.



swalkington
WA, 401 posts
4 Dec 2012 11:17AM
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on the topic of sharks,,,,how was that thing at Leighton,...looked like a bus.

sharkywarky
49 posts
4 Dec 2012 11:28AM
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Yeah a school bus, it was looking for kids to fill up the bus.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
4 Dec 2012 11:43AM
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swalkington said...
on the topic of sharks,,,,how was that thing at Leighton,...looked like a bus.


Yeah that was big

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
4 Dec 2012 11:58AM
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jbshack said...
swalkington said...
on the topic of sharks,,,,how was that thing at Leighton,...looked like a bus.


Yeah that was big




Just when you thought it was safe......... again

Whites now tigers sheesh

Grevas
147 posts
4 Dec 2012 12:12PM
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I pledge to buy my next custom board from Katana, not that that will pay for all the hours and dollars spent but gotta like a guy who puts his money where his mouth is.

katana
WA, 644 posts
4 Dec 2012 12:35PM
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thanks Grevas

Zuke
901 posts
4 Dec 2012 1:43PM
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swalkington said...
on the topic of sharks,,,,how was that thing at Leighton,...looked like a bus.


I havn't seen the pic of it but it was later confirmed to be a GW not a Tiger.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
4 Dec 2012 3:25PM
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Zuke said...
swalkington said...
on the topic of sharks,,,,how was that thing at Leighton,...looked like a bus.


I havn't seen the pic of it but it was later confirmed to be a GW not a Tiger.


There was a Ariel shot of it alongside the Police Niad..So it was easy to get some perspective. I was surprised at just how slow it seemed to be moving

lovethebrik
22 posts
4 Dec 2012 3:28PM
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Hey Katana , genuinely interested to hear a bit about what you have been doing , ie where , what type sharks ,with what product or own invention ? Love to if you have time , read what you've concluded . Did read the piece in mag bout young lad at wedge and his experience , chilling , my heart was pounding and i wasn't even there . Couldn't imagine what he's going through .

katana
WA, 644 posts
4 Dec 2012 3:46PM
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all testing so far has been done on med/large bulls, hamerheads,tigers, and whalers good to see it working well with these species ,next is whites and thats where the expenses get bigger to

Ctngoodvibes
WA, 1403 posts
4 Dec 2012 4:38PM
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Katana I would have thought for whites all you would have to do is anchor off Cott / Leighton and wait about 2 mins.

kwalkington
WA, 87 posts
4 Dec 2012 6:31PM
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if you can paddle from the shore to the D9 wreck a couple of times without being harrassed then it works. AndreaC is you being a rasialist?

katana
WA, 644 posts
5 Dec 2012 2:05PM
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lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,

Beelzebub
WA, 144 posts
5 Dec 2012 2:51PM
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katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


Take that as a compliment, if not an outright endorsement of your product. Innovation is often frowned upon in the insipid world of government bureaucracy. After all, what would be left for the file-holders and paper-shufflers to do, if enterprising individuals independently solved their problems?

Ctngoodvibes
WA, 1403 posts
5 Dec 2012 2:52PM
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^^^^^
I didnt think the government could possibly make me think they were more useless then I already did - but they have proved me wrong [}:)]

Out of everything, surely this is the type of technology they should be exploring. Especially since most of the recent fatalities have been surfers.

MickPC
8266 posts
5 Dec 2012 3:35PM
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katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


That is extremely disappointing to read man. A locally developed device to tackle a very real problem with what could well be the most effective means of preventing attacks & they turn it down. I find that unacceptable.

They can't have given it much consideration considering how quickly they responded. Taking into account this is a government department & things usually move slowly. You've got a lot of friends Dave, I wouldn't leave it at that. Maybe a word to someone like Today Tonight. Their sensationalistic style usually atracts some attention.

Let us know if we can help you in some way, I'd be happy to sign a petition & get some other peeps to sign it down here. Or write a letter to someone...I think you need to get these guys to explain how they can't possibly be interested & we have a state election coming up in just a few months, which is usually a good time to get the government to pledge cash support to dampen the squeaky wheels.

GPA
WA, 2520 posts
5 Dec 2012 3:49PM
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katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


Dave, did you get any feedback as to why? If it was something with the way in which you presented your submission then perhaps you can address that issue and re-submit an 'improved' submission? What I am saying is perhaps you do not have to accept the first 'no' you receive...

Good luck and keep up the good work.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
5 Dec 2012 3:51PM
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MickPC said...
katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


That is extremely disappointing to read man. A locally developed device to tackle a very real problem with what could well be the most effective means of preventing attacks & they turn it down. I find that unacceptable.

They can't have given it much consideration considering how quickly they responded. Taking into account this is a government department & things usually move slowly. You've got a lot of friends Dave, I wouldn't leave it at that. Maybe a word to someone like Today Tonight. Their sensationalistic style usually atracts some attention.

Let us know if we can help you in some way, I'd be happy to sign a petition & get some other peeps to sign it down here. Or write a letter to someone...I think you need to get these guys to explain how they can't possibly be interested & we have a state election coming up in just a few months, which is usually a good time to get the government to pledge cash support to dampen the squeaky wheels.


Not the best reaction from our local gov

Ive got two questions tho, how much funding do you need? And how do you test it on a GWS?

On the funding front you could do a surf/dive comunity based fund raiser and that would bring it to a wider audience, maybe?

On the testing, Ive thought a bit about this and Im buggered as to how you would do it?? Unless you can find a heap of them in one spot (hard) Ive havent got a clue!

subasurf
WA, 2154 posts
5 Dec 2012 3:57PM
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I'll be in South Africa next year tagging white sharks...plenty of them there to test out the device

katana
WA, 644 posts
5 Dec 2012 4:03PM
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GPA said...
katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


Dave, did you get any feedback as to why? If it was something with the way in which you presented your submission then perhaps you can address that issue and re-submit an 'improved' submission? What I am saying is perhaps you do not have to accept the first 'no' you receive...

Good luck and keep up the good work.


i wont go into depth but they wanted more detail into the design and technology side of things which i thought they would contact me about ?
they also said we can re apply for the next round of funding in june , we aim to have the product on the market by april /may regardless.

katana
WA, 644 posts
5 Dec 2012 4:10PM
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doggie said...
MickPC said...
katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


That is extremely disappointing to read man. A locally developed device to tackle a very real problem with what could well be the most effective means of preventing attacks & they turn it down. I find that unacceptable.

They can't have given it much consideration considering how quickly they responded. Taking into account this is a government department & things usually move slowly. You've got a lot of friends Dave, I wouldn't leave it at that. Maybe a word to someone like Today Tonight. Their sensationalistic style usually atracts some attention.

Let us know if we can help you in some way, I'd be happy to sign a petition & get some other peeps to sign it down here. Or write a letter to someone...I think you need to get these guys to explain how they can't possibly be interested & we have a state election coming up in just a few months, which is usually a good time to get the government to pledge cash support to dampen the squeaky wheels.




Ive got two questions tho, how much funding do you need? And how do you test it on a GWS?

On the funding front you could do a surf/dive comunity based fund raiser and that would bring it to a wider audience, maybe?

On the testing, Ive thought a bit about this and Im buggered as to how you would do it?? Unless you can find a heap of them in one spot (hard) Ive havent got a clue!


talking to all involved now probably around 40-50k as for testing il leave that up to the shark expert he's been great so far and alot cheaper than the guys the govt wanted us to use .

GPA
WA, 2520 posts
5 Dec 2012 4:15PM
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katana said...
GPA said...
katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


Dave, did you get any feedback as to why? If it was something with the way in which you presented your submission then perhaps you can address that issue and re-submit an 'improved' submission? What I am saying is perhaps you do not have to accept the first 'no' you receive...

Good luck and keep up the good work.


i wont go into depth but they wanted more detail into the design and technology side of things which i thought they would contact me about ?
they also said we can re apply for the next round of funding in june , we aim to have the product on the market by april /may regardless.


Well, I would put the work in to submit your 'improved' submission for round two in June and use any grants you get towards refinement of the Mark I product. Also, you could try the City(s) of Joondalup and Stirling, as they do grants for sporting clubs etc...

Mask
WA, 293 posts
5 Dec 2012 4:35PM
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katana said...
GPA said...
katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


Dave, did you get any feedback as to why? If it was something with the way in which you presented your submission then perhaps you can address that issue and re-submit an 'improved' submission? What I am saying is perhaps you do not have to accept the first 'no' you receive...

Good luck and keep up the good work.


i wont go into depth but they wanted more detail into the design and technology side of things which i thought they would contact me about ?
they also said we can re apply for the next round of funding in june , we aim to have the product on the market by april /may regardless.


Probably so they could patent it!
Maybe Breezers would be happy to each put in 100-200 dollars into research funding, provided you deduct that off the cost when we eventually purchase the product from you. Id be willing to risk an investment like this as Im sure a lot of other breezers will as this is becoming a real serious issue for water users.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
5 Dec 2012 5:10PM
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katana said...
GPA said...
katana said...
lucked out with R&D funding from dept of commerce/gov ,


Dave, did you get any feedback as to why? If it was something with the way in which you presented your submission then perhaps you can address that issue and re-submit an 'improved' submission? What I am saying is perhaps you do not have to accept the first 'no' you receive...

Good luck and keep up the good work.


i wont go into depth but they wanted more detail into the design and technology side of things which i thought they would contact me about ?
they also said we can re apply for the next round of funding in june , we aim to have the product on the market by april /may regardless.


Once again our local State government just blowing smoke and hot air. Honestly they are saying they will contribute up to $300000 per idea. They even go on to mention like Shark resistant wetsuits Etc. What the hell would be better than board that repels sharks

I know i get red thumbs for my ranting but can anybody else see that our State government are playing us for simple surfers that most think we are[}:)]



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