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Aerials in surfing - whats next?

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Created by Kaz1983 > 9 months ago, 13 Oct 2011
Kaz1983
306 posts
13 Oct 2011 1:39PM
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After watching the semi's and final of the Quicksilver event last night it got me thinking now that aerials are becoming the norm, I wonder what the next big step in surfing is going to be? Will surfers start doing what vert skateboarders did in the 90's and develop switch stance? From memory the reason why vert skaters did was because aerials became the norm and everybody started doing them, so to spice it up the best of the best started mastering switch and it became a prized ability in competition... I can see it happening in surfing tbh, when I don't know but once all the aerials you could possibly do on a surfboard in competition have been done, you have to think that riding switch stance will happen and become a prized ability.... (and btw people said riding switch on a skateboard wasn't natural and didn't take it seriously at first, just saying..)

What do you reckon, where is surfing headed?

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
13 Oct 2011 1:46PM
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If I cant do em I dont judge them

Kick flick is next, some guy in the USA has done one and Ozzie has as well I think.

Kaz1983
306 posts
13 Oct 2011 2:05PM
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doggie said...

If I cant do em I dont judge them


Well I hope that rule doesn't apply to ASP judges, because if so they would be...


birdman89
77 posts
13 Oct 2011 3:17PM
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doggie said...

If I cant do em I dont judge them

Kick flick is next, some guy in the USA has done one and Ozzie has as well I think.




Have volcom paid out the 10k for the kick flip yet? I remember the rules were real harsh, had to be above the lip and landed back in the wave or soemthing like that.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
13 Oct 2011 3:27PM
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birdman89 said...

doggie said...

If I cant do em I dont judge them

Kick flick is next, some guy in the USA has done one and Ozzie has as well I think.




Have volcom paid out the 10k for the kick flip yet? I remember the rules were real harsh, had to be above the lip and landed back in the wave or soemthing like that.


I think they did to the guy in the USA, it was on the ASL website I think..

Prawnhead
NSW, 1317 posts
13 Oct 2011 7:36PM
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a large increase in orthopedic surgery!!

Kaz1983
306 posts
13 Oct 2011 7:26PM
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Well its been done before...

"In 1975, high school student Jeff Clarke, perhaps a cross between man and beast, became the first person ever to ride the huge waves Maverick's had to offer, and he did it completely alone for 15 years. The goofy-footed surfer taught himself to ride switch so that he could face the wave on both lefts and rights. After his first ride in 1975, Jeff regularly surfed Maverick's for the next decade and a half, but the obscure location and horrifying conditions kept him alone until 1990, when two other surfers finally agreed to join him."

birdman89
77 posts
13 Oct 2011 7:33PM
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doggie said...

birdman89 said...

doggie said...

If I cant do em I dont judge them

Kick flick is next, some guy in the USA has done one and Ozzie has as well I think.




Have volcom paid out the 10k for the kick flip yet? I remember the rules were real harsh, had to be above the lip and landed back in the wave or soemthing like that.


I think they did to the guy in the USA, it was on the ASL website I think..


Just had a quick google, here it is. made even better by the fact his name is Zoltan. He did it so smoothly as well, very impressive.

TOAD
NSW, 305 posts
14 Oct 2011 9:27AM
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That's pretty impressive

default
WA, 1255 posts
14 Oct 2011 9:25AM
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toady, thats your next task.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Oct 2011 10:30AM
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Kaz1983 said...

Well its been done before...

"In 1975, high school student Jeff Clarke, perhaps a cross between man and beast, became the first person ever to ride the huge waves Maverick's had to offer, and he did it completely alone for 15 years. The goofy-footed surfer taught himself to ride switch so that he could face the wave on both lefts and rights. After his first ride in 1975, Jeff regularly surfed Maverick's for the next decade and a half, but the obscure location and horrifying conditions kept him alone until 1990, when two other surfers finally agreed to join him."


Heavy local

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Oct 2011 10:34AM
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birdman89 said...

doggie said...

birdman89 said...

doggie said...

If I cant do em I dont judge them

Kick flick is next, some guy in the USA has done one and Ozzie has as well I think.




Have volcom paid out the 10k for the kick flip yet? I remember the rules were real harsh, had to be above the lip and landed back in the wave or soemthing like that.


I think they did to the guy in the USA, it was on the ASL website I think..


Just had a quick google, here it is. made even better by the fact his name is Zoltan. He did it so smoothly as well, very impressive.




How cool was that?!? Very smooth and fast

Prawnhead
NSW, 1317 posts
14 Oct 2011 2:47PM
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I should preface this by saying i am a crusty/cynical old school fart but...... impressive as the skill level is i still think of it as a "trick"...bit like the old fin first takeoffs looked good once or twice but got old real quick.
I went to see castles in the sky by taylor steele and honestly the only parts i can remember are the guys in the artic circle walking on the snow.. and dave rastovich doing killer cutbacks
All the other aerials and stuff blended after about 5 mins
"Kids nowdays "(i sound like i am 110 ) ride the boards not the wave!
Kind of interesting when i watch young grommies nowdays that are doing little alley oops and airs, and then struggle to do a cutback or a re entry .Evidenced by the fact that zoltan struggled to do a re-entry after his kick flip..
Give me Burrows,Bourez,o'Brien,Buttons( no-one ate sand as well as buttons) ,Bertleman
I'll take 2 mins of MR anyday over alot of the schlock that is around today especially the stuff from Honolua Bay on Maui



"Zen again" zoltan the pr*&k is 10 000k richer than me !!

Kaz1983
306 posts
14 Oct 2011 12:05PM
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^^

That's the reason why I'm thinking when are pro surfers going to start riding and taking off switch.... because as you say it is starting to become a case of surfers riding thier boards and not the wave" and becoming all about weather or not you can pull big airs... just imagine this:

Kelly Slater takes of on a small set at Teahupoo and surprises everybody by getting up switch and pulls into a clean switch frontside barrel and the crowd in the channel goes crazy.

TOAD
NSW, 305 posts
15 Oct 2011 9:49AM
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Thanks so much for that blast from the MR past . Brought a tear to my eye ...

Dazza65
QLD, 389 posts
15 Oct 2011 1:58PM
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That was awesome prawnhead, thanks for sharing! I am too not that fussed by the trick stuff, give me power carves any day. Showing my age maybe?

thommo 000
1670 posts
15 Oct 2011 7:05PM
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^yep.... i agree, good one. Each to their own tho.

Zuke
901 posts
15 Oct 2011 8:37PM
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Thanks for the clip Prawnhead, MR is pure style and a pleasure to watch. I must be old too because the skateboard tricks of today get old real quick.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
16 Oct 2011 12:21PM
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I kinda like them. It's given me a new goal in my surfing, to look above the lip and learn to pop and slide my board like a skatey. Things I never thought about years ago. I wish I could do 'em as easy as they've become to the pros in contests nowadays.

Kaz1983
306 posts
18 Oct 2011 7:08PM
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Kelly Slater just took off switch foot, straight into the barrel in his round 4 heat at Supertubos...

Zuke
901 posts
18 Oct 2011 8:50PM
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^^^ but we know he's an alien!

WATER MAN
WA, 139 posts
18 Oct 2011 10:53PM
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I don't think anything will take the place of a turn under the lip that brings the board 180 then back around to take off like a flash of light. The thing about surfing, is the right move at the right time to make it look special. Sometimes a surfer can race along a wave to get enough speed to do one move but then is beaten by another doing clean clinical simple moves done at the most crucial time.
Arial moves have sold heaps of movies, made stacks of pictures but I don't think they have been the clincher in most comps.
As for the kick flip, it looked as if the board had a mind of its own all the rider did was jump up. Did look cool.

Kaz1983
306 posts
18 Oct 2011 11:12PM
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Zuke said...

^^^ but we know he's an alien!


True.

He just pulled a nice switch frontside barrel in his 1/4 final against Alves... looking forward to Taj knocking him out in the semi's tho, well we can always dream... ha.

Kaz1983
306 posts
19 Oct 2011 2:49PM
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Just was emailed this old article by a friend... very interesting, love the bits about riding a finless board and taking off switch, pulling into the tube, only to sit down on his board -come out natural and do a big air, both at Pipeline....

Jamie O'Brien's approach to surfing mirrors his approach to life. There are no half-speeds, no checked-maneuvers, no missed opportunities; nor is there pause for contemplation, thought of what next, or curbed impulse. Which is what makes him one of the most exciting surfers currently displacing saltwater.in any ocean.

Of course he's most himself when at home at Pipeline, steps from his porch, where he's one of the few surfers that can match the break's relentlessness with his own aggression, and where he's brought a more progressive approach to the wave than almost anybody currently occupying the lineup. Need proof? Sit on the beach at Ehukai on a winter's day and watch the 21-year-old O'Brien take off switch-stance, pull into the tube, sit down on his board, come out natural, do a big air, stick it and paddle back out. There is only audacity in this. And the same can be said of his surfing anywhere, as he brings more creativity to the water than any surfer his age, and more abandon than most in the world.

And this, of course, is how Jamie lives his life. He's brash, opinionated and self-assure, which has brought him problems in the past, but is only a sign of the future. Because Jamie O'Brien will never pull back the reins. And this will always make him exciting. But what's more intriguing than anything is to listen to Jamie O'Brien tell it in his own candid words. -Brad Melekian.

SURFERMAG: Your new movie is called Freak Show, which is probably appropriate considering "Freak" is the word most used to describe you. There's a scene in the movie , when you ride a finless board at Pipeline which sums up your talent and your creativity. Is creativity the most important part of your surfing?

JAMIE O'BRIEN: Yeah, I think so. People think of things but they never do them. When you're a kid you have as much fun as you can all day, and you just decide to do things-you don't think about them. I was looking under my porch one day and we found all these finless boards and we were like let's go sandslide on the beach. And then next thing you know I was like, "I'm going to paddle this board out and try to catch one." People on the beach were stoked to see that, and then a year later I pulled the board out again and cleaned it up, took it out and was doing turns and 360s and having fun. And then people seemed pretty interested. It's cool, you watch movies and guys are doing all these things, riding rafts or single fins or seeing how many 360s they can do on one wave, all this creative stuff. So I'm just trying to do something new and creative that will make people excited.

SURFERMAG: How do you keep coming up with some of the stuff that you're doing?

JAMIE O'BRIEN: You know what opened my eyes to that kind of deal? Kelly Slater Pro Surfer. In that game, they do all these crazy moves and I trip out on these things, so I go out with the mindset when I go surfing to try and do something crazy, like a crazy air, because it seems pretty legit, if you get the right sections. Now I'm trying to think like all the BMX guys, and that just makes me want to try harder and go bigger. When a section comes to me at Backdoor I'm just going to punt it, so this year I'm just going to put it on the line. I'll probably get hurt, but it's worth it (laughs).

SURFERMAG: What do you think the future holds in terms of more creative, progressive surfing?

JAMIE O'BRIEN: With actual moves, I don't know, I'm just trying to keep up to date. I see all these guys doing all this crazy stuff- I just try to see what they're doing, and they're probably watching what I'm doing.

SURFERMAG: Who are some of the more creative guys that you've seen around?

JAMIE O'BRIEN: I don't know, that's kind of why I watch Dane Reynolds surf. I remember seeing do this one air where he switched stance in the middle of the move. Stuff that's crazy like that really inspires me.

SURFERMAG: It's impossible to tell your story without talking about Pipeline. Living there, you've seen a lot of the vibe surrounding Pipe through the years. Have you ever had any difficulty in terms of surfing there?

JAMIE O'BRIEN: Not really. I mean, when I started surfing Pipe, it was pretty much the end of the gnarly era at Pipe-there was still Dane Kealoha and Marvin Foster and a lot of the heavy guys out there. Things were changing and they knew that these little young guys were coming up, and I'd seen those guys around because my dad was a lifeguard and he'd always talk to them. They accepted me after a while, but there were times where the guys didn't want me to get a good one because they knew I could make it if it came to me, and there were also times when they would yell "Go, go, go!", and it was just a big closeout and I would get so pounded.

SURFERMAG: And yet you still seem to not be intimidated of getting pounded-switching stance in the barrel and doing silly things.

JAMIE O'BRIEN: Yeah, I actually don't mind getting pounded. In fact, when I'm gone, I miss it. It's kind of weird, because if you grow up at a place, especially like Pipeline-you know how many barrels you're going to get. It's kind of weird to say, but I get so many barrels that I get bored. I just want to keep trying new things and keep people interested. No one else is doing it-guys like Kelly and those guys are pretty good too, but they don't go out there on a normal session and switch stance or anything.


http://www.surfermag.com/features/obrien_interview04/

weiry
QLD, 5396 posts
22 Oct 2011 10:51PM
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finless at pipeline the young guard are always stepping it up.

Loved the footage of the wounded gull and shaun tomson
no aerials at the 82 stubbies but the gull was on fire.



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