When I was growing up there was a lot of BS going around about what makes a real surfer.
I remember some kids saying if you weren't at the beach at the crack of dawn you were just a plastic.
I also remember the amount of crap that was given over the try hards. The ones who would be in the water from sun up to sun down given it all trying to get that bit better cause surfing didn't come second nature.
This was just a teenage pecking order that seemed to sought itself out as time went on. Often the loud mouth would be one of the first ones to stop surfing and get fat and unfit. But it was allways the surfers giving it to each other.
What has got me stuffed is the loud mouth dribble and abuse that is now coming from esky lidders! How in the world can some pimple faced twat who has 2 legs but chooses to lay flat and surf have the cheek to abuse any kid attempting and giving it his best to stand on his her own 2 feet. For some crazy reason the lidders have climbed the ranks to think they have the given right to abuse board riders. I still and never will believe that body boarding is close to stand up.
Body boards have there place like, late take off's, close outs and green room time.
Most of these kids will not even attempt getting on the knees and showing any development skills at all.
I have had my cry now and plan to take some action in the water.
I know a few ex pro bodyboarders. As they became men they have all pretty much lost the boog and gone to stand up, others have just stopped altogether as they are embarrassed to ride boog but don't want to be an average stand up surfer. Many of the good Boogers make an easy transition, especially if they ride dropknee. Positioning and reading the waves and ocean is a huge part of surfing, they already have this.
I don't mind boogs as they seem to have their spots they surf that suit them, it is kind of funny seeing a 40 year old bloke bounce across a fat point break though.
I like boogers, the main reason being that that by there early 20's they have given up. We have a few guys around 50 surfing lids around here, they call them selves ofol(old farts on lids) more than not they have a better time than us in the shifty beach breaks down here
Your right I do see a place for lids in the surf, but that is doing fun crazy **** that is built on crazy break your neck stuff rather than technical stuff. I do go out on a lid after I am stuffed from surfing and having a hard time getting on to a wave ( about 3 hours into a session ) but I don't start on people cause I am now taking off deeper. I just don't understand how lid riders can put themselves in the same level when they can't stand on a board. ( The ones who can't drop knee or stand up).
agree with ya Pete, I was one of the first to ride one at The Point in the old days, copped a bit of crap but said nothing and waited my turn. I think due to the fact that myself and a couple of other guys showed respect and it was a novelty we did OK. I progressed to the kneelo in my late teens and despite the crippo label kneelos had a bit of history and a rep as good tube riders so we went alright, still had the stigma of not standing up but due to the boards looking pretty much like surfboards we fit in a bit more than the lids. It's funny how the spots you and I frequent rarely see lidders so it's not much of an issue to me
i like em too ,i would rather run over a lid than another board anyday !!
i "try" to give every person the same amount of respect
although i don't see too many people paddling inside thornto at teahupoo
^^^not that exciting really. Much prefered to see AI or CJ hobgood surfing it. Can't really understand why some one would prefer to ride a lid.
I do not like boogs. I like kids on boogs because they are kids and I can understand mum or dad taking their kids to the beach. I don't like tribes of noisy teens and even worse, tribes of 20 somethings on boogs. It is like playing with lego... I'm sure it is GREAt fun, but afterall, it is for kids and it needs to stop once you're all grown up.
One of my later blues in the surf was with an arrogant lid.
Started my boys out on lids to teach them about positioning around the wave(take off, lefts/rights surf rules etc without having to worry about paddling/standing up/pitching) but they progressed to the board happily. Myself I started out with a half broken coolite board(other half being the brothers') Been surfing now myself for 30+yrs (and still on the shortboard)and there's nothing better to be out surfing with family and seeing the smile on their faces Lids have their time and place....just not around me, they're usually ridden by kids who have no idea of surf etiquette. (lots of board riders also fit into that category)
Checked a sopt near me last night and stand upers were 2 to 18 lidders. Was watching the lidder run right over each other
Waste of good waves
We used to call them "shark biscuits", so yeah they have their place, better them than me
I'd rather see a wave go unridden than see a lid riding it with their stupid mouth open in awe of the fact their sliding on their stomach. I'd rather see it go unridden than hear them talking to each other about 'that SECTION". I don't like it.
