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Created by ffdisco2 > 9 months ago, 11 Jun 2011
ffdisco2
18 posts
11 Jun 2011 10:54AM
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Hi all,

This is my first post. I am currently in the market for a new suit. Have been contemplating purchasing from UK or US. Anyway came across an australian site dextersurf.com.au selling e-bombs for around $300 mark. Wondering if anyone has had any experience with this site?

Cheers.

menox
NSW, 152 posts
11 Jun 2011 1:22PM
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hey mate i recently picked up my ebomb pro from sideways surf outlet up here on the gold coast. Got a full suit 2.2 thick for 340 man. Google sideways im sure they would deliver :) Best suit ever!

Lipsmakin
SA, 17 posts
12 Jul 2011 1:47PM
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I purchased two Ripcurl ebomb wetsuits from Dextersurf. A 2mm for $269 and a 3/2 for $350. Both wetsuits are perfect and were delivered within 2 days. Saved an absolute bundle but be quick as a few mates tried to grab the same suits and were sold out.

beastsurf
WA, 902 posts
12 Jul 2011 4:53PM
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I have been using E Bombs for a while and have two of them. They are great wettys. I payed aheap more for them than you are talking about. A mate of mine gets Excels from the states for less than half price you pay here. Let us know how ya go.

ffdisco2
18 posts
15 Jul 2011 2:28PM
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I just purchased from the US 2011 3/2 Chest Zip. $340 incl shipping got it in XLS size. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to arrive. I suppose the benefit of buying locally is you have it now - I've almost conviced myself having it now is worth another $100.

Still cannot believe the price gouging though, 10-20% I can understand. But to almost double the RRP is just criminal.

I was actually looking at Buell - I thought I would do my bit to stick it up the big multinationals, but did not get any response on my emails querying sizes. So bit the bullet and bought Ripcurl. I'm sure I'll still be happy with it.

theWaterBoy
WA, 225 posts
18 Jul 2011 1:17PM
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Purchase my 3/2 E bomb from the states, took 10 days, landed for just over $300 AUD

The cheapest I could infd locally was $545.

My preference is to buy local, but the surf labels give aussies an absolute fisting!

Bennosmith
VIC, 43 posts
18 Jul 2011 4:15PM
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I was lucky to be in the states early this year and picked up a 3/2 ebomb pro+ for $200 in their end of winter specials. Best wetsuit i've ever had!

ffdisco2
18 posts
28 Jul 2011 10:46PM
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next suit will definitely be a back zip, I got cramps trying to get out of the damn thing...easy enough to get on, dread taking it off...only took 5 days for delivery (door to door) - same time it takes me to get out of the chest zip. $340 fusion surf on ebay. it is more sensitive than an ansell suit...

Jradedmondo
NSW, 635 posts
29 Jul 2011 2:18PM
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i definatly agree and would much prefer to buy local, but when you can buy a e-bomb for around 300 bucks compared to the 500 plus you would be paying in australia, and with the very good exchange rate at the moment, i'm definatley going to get my next steamer from the states in a couple of weeks cause i'm sure i can find something to do with an extra $200, also purchased a set of k2.1 thruster/quad fins from america for $105 and that included shipping, compared to the $200 it would've cost me from my local surf shop, they took 2 weeks to get to me, that was fine as i didn't need them straight away, i can understand spending maybe an extra 100 if you need it straight away to buy local, but i was willing to surfice with what i had for a couple of weeks, thats just what i think

Jarryd

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
29 Jul 2011 3:10PM
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Rip Curl suck. There was a thread on another forum where people were buying wetties from overseas and naming cheap shops etc. The shops did really well judging from the number of people posting. "Coincidentally", Rip Curl contacted these shops and banned them from exporting internationally. Apparently they'd done similar things in the past. You can be sure that the more threads like this there are, the more publicity they generate and the more information Rip Curl will use to shut down international shipping. You can also be sure Rip Curl Australia reps are reading this thread with interest. And if it's not Rip Curl at the start, then shops selling Rip Curl will be reading, then they'll complain to their Rip Curl reps, who'll then complain to Rip Curl Australia, who'll shut it down.

It's a bit like surf spots. It's best just to not name good deals, even if it's common knowledge.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
29 Jul 2011 3:20PM
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Legion said...

Rip Curl suck.

Agree

Sham1984
VIC, 415 posts
29 Jul 2011 5:44PM
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Good point legion. Post removed

ffdisco2
18 posts
30 Jul 2011 1:16PM
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Isn't that a bit of an over reaction? It's not like you need to have chip embedded in your eyeball to be able to find these 'rogue' RC stores. You type e bomb on ebay and any international seller pop up - not exactly a 'secret'. If they were that concerned about being found out by RC, they would not be doing it on ebay for starters. I think it is good for people to be aware that the prices we are quoted in stores in Oz are quite over inflated. It's a good suit, and if people realised they can get it and save some money, I don't think that is such a bad thing.

Until the government start applying import duties on personal imports under $1000. People will continue to search out bargains from international retailers. It's so easy now a days, transfering funds has never been easier, freight forwarding, so competive and efficient, why wouldn't you?

I really don't think they can 'stop' people selling anything. Just remember selling weed is also illegal. I'd hate for the RipCurl police to come knockin on my door!

I like knowing/feeling I got a good deal when I purchase something. A good salesman can rip you off, but make you feel like the extra you paid was justifiable. The only purchases I don't bargain on are groceries and fuel! It's only a matter of time, just praying one day I get a quiet line and a young Grocery Accountant/Packaging Engineer at my local woolys!!!

newo
WA, 250 posts
30 Jul 2011 2:37PM
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brand new (last season) ebomb for $212 inc ship. Beats $550 in the shop down the road.

shamwow
WA, 5 posts
30 Jul 2011 8:27PM
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bought my e-bomb last winter online from ebay and paid 290 deliverd to my door and have since picked up 3 new boards in that time from my local shaper.for me, id prefer to spend my money on suporting a shaper than paying for an over priced wetsuit (but a good wetsuit though).

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
31 Jul 2011 12:34AM
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ffdisco2 said...

Isn't that a bit of an over reaction? It's not like you need to have chip embedded in your eyeball to be able to find these 'rogue' RC stores. You type e bomb on ebay and any international seller pop up - not exactly a 'secret'. If they were that concerned about being found out by RC, they would not be doing it on ebay for starters. I think it is good for people to be aware that the prices we are quoted in stores in Oz are quite over inflated. It's a good suit, and if people realised they can get it and save some money, I don't think that is such a bad thing.

Mate, wait and see. Guaranteed if you have a thread on a public forum saying "buy cheap Rip Curl overseas from shop x for < 1/2 Australian price", guaranteed that Rip Curl will prohibit that shop from selling internationally.

Rip Curl Australia makes a fortune and the local shops make a killing. Why wouldn't they protect that if all it takes is a couple of phone calls. They don't care about pissing off a few people in an internet thread, they care about maximising profit from all the people who don't think twice about paying full RRP.

ffdisco2
18 posts
31 Jul 2011 11:49AM
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I agree Ripcurl suck ass, but their suit is pretty good!

I have no doubt Ripcurl, place guidelines in place with all retailers with regards to international deliveries. All I am saying is they will never be able to stop international deliveries, these guys selling on line aren't trying to hide it to start with. If ripcurl were scouring the net, a quick google search will find them. Even if the shops technically did not deliver internationally, there are freight forwarders in the US and the UK who can take local delivery before dispatching internationally. Then there are those with friends and family. At the end of the day there are a lot more suits than just Ripcurl. Just too many loop holes mate, I agree Ripcurl will try and enforce this on US retailers, but all I am saying is unless they stop supplying some stores, I can't see them completely putting an end to this.

Ripcurl are making a killing even if they had no retailers in Oz mate, we're small fish. You'll find majority of their revenue comes from low ticket items, stuff you buy at 'Trendy' Shopping Mall surf shops, low costs manufacturing with massive profit margins. i'm talking about clothing, merchandise, shoes, watches.

theWaterBoy
WA, 225 posts
31 Jul 2011 12:25PM
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ffdisco2 said...

Until the government start applying import duties on personal imports under $1000. People will continue to search out bargains from international retailers. It's so easy now a days, transfering funds has never been easier, freight forwarding, so competive and efficient, why wouldn't you?


You really think this has anything to do with 5% import duty and 10% GST? Thats an absolute furphy - we are talking 50%!


I really don't think they can 'stop' people selling anything. Just remember selling weed is also illegal. I'd hate for the RipCurl police to come knockin on my door!


Don't count on it - why do you thnk all surf shops in Australia sell for almost the same price?

It goes something like, store opens goods, some goods go on backorder, store refuses to paid for undelivered backorder, Surf Brand puts store on stop credit!

I love Rip Curl wetties, but doesn't mean they can give me a pineapple up the a#$s



Legion
WA, 2222 posts
31 Jul 2011 1:14PM
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ffdisco2, sure there are deals out there and places that ship internationally. But if you name a specific deal and a specific shop, don't be surprised if Rip Curl flexes their muscle and shuts the deal down.

And if Rip Curl shuts down a particular retailer you can use freight forwarders, but that adds extra costs (sometimes significant) on top, which sucks.

Best way is to take it to PMs. What does it gain to put the info out there in public forums anyway? Any why would you argue against keeping deals quiet? I don't get it.

ffdisco2
18 posts
31 Jul 2011 3:13PM
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this topic actually started cos I wanted to find out about a south australian retailer that sell e bombs really cheaply...then it evolved into what it is...

I'm really not that fussed, I just thought it might help out people looking for one. My mates at work didn't even realise they were cheaper overseas. Whats wrong with telling others about a good deal?

By the way anyone looking for a bullbar, go to Opposite Lock, any XROX or OL bars purchased before 17 August, come with a free set of Blitz 240 spotties (valued @ $430)...just another deal going at the moment, hopefully ripcurl don't shut that deal down

ffdisco2
18 posts
31 Jul 2011 9:18PM
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theWaterBoy said...

ffdisco2 said...
Until the government start applying import duties on personal imports under $1000. People will continue to search out bargains from international retailers. It's so easy now a days, transfering funds has never been easier, freight forwarding, so competive and efficient, why wouldn't you?

You really think this has anything to do with 5% import duty and 10% GST? Thats an absolute furphy - we are talking 50%!

You have taken this out of context mate. I was referring to the this tax exemption as being an incentive for people to import goods from overseas - strong dollar, cheaper RRP and reasonable freight cost. The Australian retail community want this 'loophole' shut to save their asses. THey're wondering why people would rather buy from overseas and save money?

When you are importing goods valued at $1000 that 15% is a decent saving on top of the RRP difference. I never implied this 15% is where the difference in Ripcurl's RRP comes from. In some international stores you fill find the tags actually list the RRP in several currencies, it's clear from their who's getting the wrong end of the stick. For some items the savings are that good that even paying the 15% doesn't matter, for example driveline parts for 4wds.

theWaterBoy said...

ffdisco2 said...
I really don't think they can 'stop' people selling anything. Just remember selling weed is also illegal. I'd hate for the RipCurl police to come knockin on my door!

Don't count on it - why do you thnk all surf shops in Australia sell for almost the same price?

Same price as what? Ripcurl's RRP? Of course they would, that's no different to any other commodity, the manufacturer set a retail price and the retailer makes a certain margin. I never argued this point. Their extortionate AU pricing is the reason I bought it overseas.

theWaterBoy said...
It goes something like, store opens goods, some goods go on backorder, store refuses to paid for undelivered backorder, Surf Brand puts store on stop credit!

Sorry mate I don't quite understand the point you are trying to get across?
Anyone who doesn't pay their accounts get put on stop credit? What does this have to do with buying a wetsuit from overseas?


I love Rip Curl wetties, but doesn't mean they can give me a pineapple up the a#$s

Completely agree with you there, that's why I didn't pay what they told me I should be paying here in Oz.

Seems like I've set myself up for a flaming here, don't quite understand why? Ripcurl might be planning to shut the internet down, so people can't freely 'google' cheap wetsuits.

I'll take your advice Legion and not post specific store details when disclosing bargains from now on. This should save ruffling a few feathers.

Enough on this then, I'll stick to reading the posts from now on.

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
1 Aug 2011 3:47PM
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I'd like to Argue in defense of Rip Curl here.

Why is it extortionate for a Rip Curl suit to be a different price in Australia than any other country???

Is it not logical that there would be different costs to running a business here than other places? Wages, rents, etc etc. Australia is one of the most expensive countries on the planet for everything.

Billabong, Oneill etc are all the same price for their top end suits, it's just that Rip Curl are better suits and the ones you really want that there is a problem?

If you can find a way to get it cheaper from overseas that's great, do it and be happy but to think you are being ripped off here is a little misguided.

If a suit is $500 in an Aussie shop the retailer makes $250 of that. (Oh and how many shops have closed lately??) Wholesale $250 from the company. If a US shop is selling it for $350 Rip Curl sold it to them for $175. So Rip Curl charge an extra $75 here in Oz wholesale. Given freight, import costs, GST's, much higher wages for staff etc etc you'd find Rip Curl are far from ripping you off. Get over it.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
1 Aug 2011 2:25PM
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I paid $260 shipped to my door for an E-bomb chest zip earlier this year. A few other people did too. Then Rip Curl contacted that shop and forbid them to ship internationally and a few other people missed out. The shop was apologetic but they had to ensure their supply stream. It wasn't the only shop where this happened.

I'm not pissed off that almost every shop in Australia sells at full RRP. Let them make their profit off people less informed to know where to find deals or happy to pay the full price. I'm pissed off that international shipping is shut down to protect the Australian margins.

So you reckon my $260 (ignoring shipping) suit cost the shop $130 wholesale? And shops pay $275 wholesale over here? Then Rip Curl Australia are making a tidy profit for the same suit from the same Chinese factory.



ffdisco2, no need to leave or go into lurk mode. I'm not flaming you, I'm flaming Rip Curl. Their policies/trade practices aren't your fault.

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
1 Aug 2011 4:52PM
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Legion said...

I paid $260 shipped to my door for an E-bomb chest zip earlier this year. A few other people did too. Then Rip Curl contacted that shop and forbid them to ship internationally and a few other people missed out. The shop was apologetic but they had to ensure their supply stream. It wasn't the only shop where this happened.

I'm not pissed off that almost every shop in Australia sells at full RRP. Let them make their profit off people less informed to know where to find deals or happy to pay the full price. I'm pissed off that international shipping is shut down to protect the Australian margins.

So you reckon my $260 (ignoring shipping) suit cost the shop $130 wholesale? And shops pay $275 wholesale over here? Then Rip Curl Australia are making a tidy profit for the same suit from the same Chinese factory.



ffdisco2, no need to leave or go into lurk mode. I'm not flaming you, I'm flaming Rip Curl. Their policies/trade practices aren't your fault.


Nah, I'd reckon the $260 suit was a sale price. US stores discount heavily in many areas. My father in law just came back from there with a pair of kick a$$ nike runners, you know the new ones that feel like you're not wearing them. He paid $40 US for them. Here they are about $200.

Are the stores here ripping you off?

We are lucky right now that the US is in trouble, people arent buying so they are discounting heavily. Combine that with a great exchange rate and it's never been better to buy from o/s.

Rip Curl is doing nothing every other brand does by protecting their market.

Imagine you owned a shop here that is already struggling and every one was coming in trying your suits on for size and telling you that you were too expensive and you were going to buy one online from o/s for 1/2 price. What would you do? You'd be calling Rip Curl and asking them to do something about it right?

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
1 Aug 2011 8:08PM
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CMC said...

I'd like to Argue in defense of Rip Curl here.

Why is it extortionate for a Rip Curl suit to be a different price in Australia than any other country???

Is it not logical that there would be different costs to running a business here than other places? Wages, rents, etc etc. Australia is one of the most expensive countries on the planet for everything.

Billabong, Oneill etc are all the same price for their top end suits, it's just that Rip Curl are better suits and the ones you really want that there is a problem?

If you can find a way to get it cheaper from overseas that's great, do it and be happy but to think you are being ripped off here is a little misguided.

If a suit is $500 in an Aussie shop the retailer makes $250 of that. (Oh and how many shops have closed lately??) Wholesale $250 from the company. If a US shop is selling it for $350 Rip Curl sold it to them for $175. So Rip Curl charge an extra $75 here in Oz wholesale. Given freight, import costs, GST's, much higher wages for staff etc etc you'd find Rip Curl are far from ripping you off. Get over it.


Top post CMC, I believe in the wheel of fortune,keep the money here in OZ so others will spend it at your local and on and on it goes!

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
2 Aug 2011 7:47AM
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62mac said...

CMC said...

I'd like to Argue in defense of Rip Curl here.

Why is it extortionate for a Rip Curl suit to be a different price in Australia than any other country???

Is it not logical that there would be different costs to running a business here than other places? Wages, rents, etc etc. Australia is one of the most expensive countries on the planet for everything.

Billabong, Oneill etc are all the same price for their top end suits, it's just that Rip Curl are better suits and the ones you really want that there is a problem?

If you can find a way to get it cheaper from overseas that's great, do it and be happy but to think you are being ripped off here is a little misguided.

If a suit is $500 in an Aussie shop the retailer makes $250 of that. (Oh and how many shops have closed lately??) Wholesale $250 from the company. If a US shop is selling it for $350 Rip Curl sold it to them for $175. So Rip Curl charge an extra $75 here in Oz wholesale. Given freight, import costs, GST's, much higher wages for staff etc etc you'd find Rip Curl are far from ripping you off. Get over it.


Top post CMC, I believe in the wheel of fortune,keep the money here in OZ so others will spend it at your local and on and on it goes!



Basically you're subsidising someone's lifestyle. I don't get any value from going to a shop. I know my size. I know what model I want. Most of the time the shop's not going to have my size anyway. There are a bunch of teenage girls* and guys working there who are too cool for school and can't look up from under their Justin Bieber fringes. Girls call me "mate" and throw in a few "sick"s and "awesome"s to stroke my ego, girls who've never been on a surfboard in their life. So the extra $290 I would pay for a locally bought wetsuit goes to their pocket money.

There is nothing in a wetsuit that is produced locally, nor in Australia at all. The wetsuit you buy here is the same as the wetsuit you buy in America or England, from the same Chinese sweatshop. Why should I pay more to a shop to hold stuff in stock for me when I'm happy to wait two weeks for delivery and pay wholesale prices to have the size and colour I want drop-shipped, with no need for any "help" provided by the teenage sales staff who know less than I do about the product I want to buy?

If you're talking boards, I'm all for buying from local or Australian shapers. Then you're paying for something crafted here vs. an overseas popout. But the days are gone when a shaper worked in every good surf shop. Nowadays, "surf shops" are fashion outlets and popout chain stores.

If no-one is adding any value along the product chain, why should I pay them?

*O.K., that might be reason enough to buy from the local shop.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
2 Aug 2011 8:23AM
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I hear you regarding the fashion surf stores with one is named after a beach in WA,nothing gets up my goat more than the young kids that try and sell you stuff they know nothing about,but over here there are still some quality stores owned and operated by surfers for surfers.

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
2 Aug 2011 11:45AM
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62mac said...

but over here there are still some quality stores owned and operated by surfers for surfers.


Yeah and you're paying for their multiple boat trips each year by accepting their ridiculous margins on products that according to the world market should be about half the price.

I'm all for using local shapers, I've just ordered my third board for the year off the same guy.

Aussie retailers need to wake up and get competitive or they WILL go under. And IF the all too common catch cry of "It's not us, it's the wholesaler that's making a killing!" is true then Aussie retailers need to stand up to said wholesaler and start parallel importing goods themselves. Wholesalers soon cut their margins when they start losing sales.

8-10 years ago a carton of Corona was over $70 retail, Fosters wholesale was over $50 ex GST. Now their wholesale is about $45 ex GST but there's all sorts of rebates etc that trickle a bit more margin the retailers way.
And what is the current accepted price on a box of Corona? $50 or less.

And look what a quick search on buy Corona USA brings up;
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Corona_Beer_104934894.html

$17.50 a case and that's not from Corona themselves, that's just from a distributor. Who's already whacked his margin on. Can you imagine what price Fosters are paying for the quantities they buy?

Same thing goes for cars, fishing gear etc etc etc. Same model of Porsche half the OZ price in the States. Shimano Stella, Daiwa Saltiga 30-40% less.

It's a hoax.

ffdisco2
18 posts
2 Aug 2011 10:05PM
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Any one want to start a Co-op? Stock things we need

Bulk wetsuits, wax, leashes, mud tyres, diff locker, coronas?

Not for profit! Just need some rich dude to bank role it...

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
3 Aug 2011 8:58AM
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smicko said...

62mac said...

but over here there are still some quality stores owned and operated by surfers for surfers.


Yeah and you're paying for their multiple boat trips each year by accepting their ridiculous margins on products that according to the world market should be about half the price.

I'm all for using local shapers, I've just ordered my third board for the year off the same guy.

Aussie retailers need to wake up and get competitive or they WILL go under. And IF the all too common catch cry of "It's not us, it's the wholesaler that's making a killing!" is true then Aussie retailers need to stand up to said wholesaler and start parallel importing goods themselves. Wholesalers soon cut their margins when they start losing sales.

8-10 years ago a carton of Corona was over $70 retail, Fosters wholesale was over $50 ex GST. Now their wholesale is about $45 ex GST but there's all sorts of rebates etc that trickle a bit more margin the retailers way.
And what is the current accepted price on a box of Corona? $50 or less.

And look what a quick search on buy Corona USA brings up;
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Corona-Beer_104934894.html

$17.50 a case and that's not from Corona themselves, that's just from a distributor. Who's already whacked his margin on. Can you imagine what price Fosters are paying for the quantities they buy?

Same thing goes for cars, fishing gear etc etc etc. Same model of Porsche half the OZ price in the States. Shimano Stella, Daiwa Saltiga 30-40% less.

It's a hoax.



Yes, they're all rolling in it.

Maybe in the West people are coming back from digging holes and spending up big. Over here stores are closing daily.

Major surf companies are forcing redundancies, people are losing jobs.

What is a major factor of lost sales? Internet purchasing from overseas. Combine that with a downturned economy and you have trouble. We have trouble.


62mac
WA, 24860 posts
3 Aug 2011 8:06AM
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claps at the above post so true,my fav' longboard store of 12 years closed two weeks ago
I have people ringing me daily asking if I can match online store prices.

No I cant I pay huge rent and wages not like the little home office set up who have a website and don't carry stock.



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