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Warriors or worriers?

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Created by smicko > 9 months ago, 19 Feb 2013
smicko
WA, 2503 posts
19 Feb 2013 8:09PM
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Now don't get me wrong, there's no way known you'd get me out there, but I find this vid a wee bit ghey.


I'd rather watch someone surf the pocket of a three foot wave than watch heroes shoulder hop windblown thirty foot monster mush with ski assist. The only way it could've been more ghey would be to upgrade the soundtrack to Ride of the Valkyries.

beastsurf
WA, 902 posts
19 Feb 2013 8:32PM
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Heavy duty action. Some big peaks on the inside. I'm not sure you would make it if you got caught on the inside. Those cliffs look pretty high. Not sure if those blokes are surfing for tomorrow or surfing like there is no tomorrow. There choice.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
19 Feb 2013 9:36PM
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I think its bigger than it looks Smicko..Maybe your being a little harsh

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
19 Feb 2013 9:56PM
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No doubt, it's feckin huuuuuuuge Rod, 30ft was a conservative call. My problem is that they are getting themselves towed in 50m++++ wide of the peak and are basically skurfing without a rope, once they let go.
There's one bit of footage with a bloke in the zone, but for the most part these fellas are as safe as my two year old with a pair of floaties in a sand pit.
Compare it to what Garret McNamara did at the same joint or what the rest of the fraternity do at Jaws, Mavs etc etc
It's ghey.

Indodreaming
379 posts
19 Feb 2013 9:57PM
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After the paddle in session at Cloudbreak and then followed up at Jaws I think the bar has been raised.

While the clip shows some monstrous waves you need to compare it to the guys paddling into some of these monsters.



Indodreaming
379 posts
19 Feb 2013 9:59PM
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Again in January

bakesy
WA, 682 posts
19 Feb 2013 10:12PM
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smicko what do you expect from euro trash they even towed the ski with an audi wagon, so hardcore still couldn't do it though....

MickPC
8266 posts
19 Feb 2013 11:47PM
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Its a shifting peak & pretty bloody big. Kinda easy to end up on the shoulder or somewhere you don't want to be with that much water moving around...you don't want to end up in a bad position when its that big. Looks like they were kinda feeling it out. Hard to get a place wired when conditions rarely come together for you to surf it.

crustt
VIC, 190 posts
20 Feb 2013 8:50AM
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bakesy said...
smicko what do you expect from euro trash they even towed the ski with an audi wagon, so hardcore still couldn't do it though....


The euro trash re-energized paddle in surfing. My mate was telling me (he is close friends with a few of the blokes on these jaws vids) that a couple of years ago they had a tow in contest at jaws, bit of an unofficial world title and it was one by 2 German guys. They were kitesurfers and had never paddled into any sort of wave in there life and that's when a handfull of the young Hawaiians decided to push the limits of paddling.

raynef2005
QLD, 160 posts
20 Feb 2013 9:12AM
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So close to danger but so far away from it at the same time.

Yours sincerely
Keyboardwarrior

blueball
WA, 87 posts
20 Feb 2013 8:58AM
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Yeah bit harsh i reckon. I think you're getting caught up in the latest craze of the tow in is cheating, real men paddle in phenomonen. The boundaries have been pushed so far in recent time with paddle in that you forget tow in was the only option a few years back. Had this vid came to light 5 years ago, you prob would of posted it saying check these psyhco's out rather than saying look at these shoulder hopping pussies. Even still i see your point, i've never got a great deal of entertainment in watching tow ins of these type of large waves Nazare, Cortez, Jaws etc. But XXL at Chopes, Shippies etc I dont mind watching tow in at, prob cos the barrel comes into play so much more i think.

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
20 Feb 2013 11:45AM
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I think you're kinda missing my point, which is I'd rather watch someone surf clean three foot waves instead of big fat ugly crap like this. It's just not aesthetically pleasing and that overly dramatic soundtrack is pissweak. It's not a paddle versus tow issue, it's just ugly.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
20 Feb 2013 12:19PM
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smicko said...
I think you're kinda missing my point, which is I'd rather watch someone surf clean three foot waves instead of big fat ugly crap like this. It's just not aesthetically pleasing and that overly dramatic soundtrack is pissweak. It's not a paddle versus tow issue, it's just ugly.


So is kneeling

SP
10979 posts
20 Feb 2013 5:04PM
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http://www.swellnet.com.au/news/3423-give-me-danger-or-give-me-death-why-big-wave-measurement-is-a-swinging-dick

Give me danger or give me death. Why big wave measurement is a swining dick


It's been two weeks since Garrett McNamara rode his latest Nazare behemoth and enough time has passed to allow some perpsective. Not that it's really required; it was the mainstream world that went into a lather while the surfing world did little more than blink at the size of Garrett's wave. We clicked 'like' on the Facebook photo and quickly shuffled on to other matters faster than you can say 'Kony'.

The indifference shown by the surfing world was likely helped by the fact that video footage of the wave is underwhelming at best: A turbocharged peak with no wall in either direction that feathers for half a kilometre before falling in a heap. It didn't even break. So while the mainstream world was hollering 'biggest wave ever' more than a few surfers were scratching their heads. Can you break a world record on a wave that doesn't break? Is it even a wave?

More tellingly, what does this lack of excitement tell us about the XXL project and the whole notion of measuring the height of waves? Don't we care about big waves anymore? Maybe we never really did. Of all people it was North Shore pioneer and meat-eating, proto jock, Buzzy Trent, who said: "Waves are not measured in feet and inches, they are measured in increments of fear." Wind the clock back a few years and Trent's argument is shown in full effect.

It's August 2000 and Laird Hamilton has just ridden a wave at Teahupoo that was nowhere near the largest wave ever ridden but is arguably the heaviest wave ever attempted by a surfer. Hamilton's wave stands as a landmark moment in surfing. We - that is, surfers closely involved in the sport - appreciated Hamilton's wave in a way that non-surfing rubbernecks never could and in a manner which transcends any attempt to place an emprirical, supposedly-objective measurement on it. So what if it was only twenty feet, never had a more dangerous wave been ridden.

Garret's wave at Nazare is the inverse of Laird's wave at Teahupoo; a large wave with only a minor life-threatening element.

Some people may disagree with this and claim Garret's wave was ignored because he's not a big wave favourite with esteemed sponsor to match. He's brushed by the cliquey surfing world, they might say, because he's perceived as a brash loudmouth with an ego to match. Yet a rampant ego and abrasive personality certainly didn't hamper Laird Hamilton's cause, and anyway, some of G-Mac's feats have been acclaimed by the surfing world - his waves at Cloudbreak come immediately to mind.

I believe the lack of hype surrounding Garrett's wave had less to do with the person riding and more to do with our collective disillusionment at big wave measurement. There's much more to a 'heavy' wave than mere feet and inches - just ask the Shippies crew. Measuring big waves in the XXL manner is akin to locker room jocks measuring the length of their cocks. It's time to give it a rest, size, as we more enlightened folk know, ain't everything. But catch something that can truly kill you and we'll love you forever.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
20 Feb 2013 5:51PM
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doggie said...
smicko said...
I think you're kinda missing my point, which is I'd rather watch someone surf clean three foot waves instead of big fat ugly crap like this. It's just not aesthetically pleasing and that overly dramatic soundtrack is pissweak. It's not a paddle versus tow issue, it's just ugly.


So is kneeling


Thats just nasty

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
20 Feb 2013 7:51PM
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doggie said...
smicko said...
I think you're kinda missing my point, which is I'd rather watch someone surf clean three foot waves instead of big fat ugly crap like this. It's just not aesthetically pleasing and that overly dramatic soundtrack is pissweak. It's not a paddle versus tow issue, it's just ugly.


So is kneeling



Yeah I know, that's why I don't publish videos of my self surfing set to a heroic soundtrack.

You getting the gist yet?

^^^SP that pretty much says it all really

subasurf
WA, 2154 posts
20 Feb 2013 7:55PM
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Yeah, never been impressed when watching big wave surfing.

I have respect for the guys that do it. I have respect for the utter power that some of those deep ocean swells can generate. I also admire the ability for some people to enter the mental headspace that allows them to maintain composure on big waves.

Just, none of it impresses me in the same way I can be impressed by watching someone gracefully and powerfully carve up a head heigh bowl.

Having said all that, this one impresses me immensely.

BennyB12
QLD, 918 posts
20 Feb 2013 10:30PM
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I can't believe they were doing more than six knots in the harbour! So inconsiderate....

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
20 Feb 2013 9:45PM
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smicko said...
doggie said...
smicko said...
I think you're kinda missing my point, which is I'd rather watch someone surf clean three foot waves instead of big fat ugly crap like this. It's just not aesthetically pleasing and that overly dramatic soundtrack is pissweak. It's not a paddle versus tow issue, it's just ugly.


So is kneeling



Yeah I know, that's why I don't publish videos of my self surfing set to a heroic soundtrack.

You getting the gist yet?

^^^SP that pretty much says it all really


To be honest id love to see some Kneeboardng videos

MickPC
8266 posts
20 Feb 2013 9:59PM
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^^^Same... I'd much prefer it if people shared content they had created,
rather than criticizing other peoples content creation.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
20 Feb 2013 10:18PM
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smicko said...
doggie said...
smicko said...
I think you're kinda missing my point, which is I'd rather watch someone surf clean three foot waves instead of big fat ugly crap like this. It's just not aesthetically pleasing and that overly dramatic soundtrack is pissweak. It's not a paddle versus tow issue, it's just ugly.


So is kneeling



Yeah I know, that's why I don't publish videos of my self surfing set to a heroic soundtrack.

You getting the gist yet?

^^^SP that pretty much says it all really


No, what are you saying

crustt
VIC, 190 posts
21 Feb 2013 10:56AM
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Kneeboarding is a sub-culture doggie just like surfing used to be, I wish surfing remained as unpopular as Kneeboarding, but you young buggers turn it mainstream.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
21 Feb 2013 8:32AM
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crustt said...
Kneeboarding is a sub-culture doggie just like surfing used to be, I wish surfing remained as unpopular as Kneeboarding, but you young buggers turn it mainstream.


Ha! How young are you?? Im 41 going on 19

crustt
VIC, 190 posts
21 Feb 2013 3:43PM
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53 puppie dog.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
21 Feb 2013 12:51PM
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crustt said...
53 puppie dog.


As old as the car in your avatar

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
21 Feb 2013 9:09PM
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jbshack said...
smicko said...
doggie said...
smicko said...
I think you're kinda missing my point, which is I'd rather watch someone surf clean three foot waves instead of big fat ugly crap like this. It's just not aesthetically pleasing and that overly dramatic soundtrack is pissweak. It's not a paddle versus tow issue, it's just ugly.


So is kneeling



Yeah I know, that's why I don't publish videos of my self surfing set to a heroic soundtrack.

You getting the gist yet?

^^^SP that pretty much says it all really


To be honest id love to see some Kneeboardng videos



Here ya go Rod...last one's got some pretty sick Nias in it.



#!

crustt
VIC, 190 posts
22 Feb 2013 8:47AM
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Hey Mick, is that you in the south coast vid? Satisfying to see someone who takes longer to get to stand up than me.And by the way, Aus Post is being kinder to me these days, I can get covers to Perth for $27 or less, half the covers I make now are kneelos.

That's a 68or 69 Doggie, I'm even rustier.

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
22 Feb 2013 5:14PM
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Not me Scotty, I can't stand up at all It's Simon Farrer several times world champ, that's him in the Bluff one too. He goes alright for an old bugger.

I'll pass the word around my cripple mates about the covers, by far the best covers I've come across and thanks again for dropping mine in last time you were over.

original
3 posts
22 Feb 2013 8:12PM
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Kneeboarding is painful to watch

bakesy
WA, 682 posts
22 Feb 2013 9:24PM
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I agree Original, but think of it like sex, no one would want to watch you do it, but I bet you have fun doing it, that's the main thing.

crustt
VIC, 190 posts
23 Feb 2013 7:19AM
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Surfing is like sex, when your young you think you are real good at it but you haven't got a clue. When you get older you know how to do all the right moves, but your body wont let you.



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