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Sandman45 good on ya for coming forward. I'm surprised and confused by the whole situation. Jamie is an experienced sailor and an easy going individual, I spent 4 weeks with him in Maui and he's a regular at our local spot in Sydney and I've never seen this sort of behaviour from him.
Apologies for my previous 'emotional' outburst, it was more directed at this type of behaviour. I'll shut up and get the story first hand, hope you guys can work it out.
the public notice is pretty much the article word for word. A bit of rather lazy journalism which is not uncommen in the Guardian.
They love it when a story falls into their lap, in this case someone paid them to print it!
This sort of practice in the waves has become commonplace here in Gero, and while most dont like to make an issue of it, if you dont it gets worse.
A common one is to jibe onto a wave upwind while not looking in your direction. Look over the shoulder after 30 seconds and glare at the "offender" down wind.
Wouldnt like to say who was the real perpetrator here, but mostly its a pretty good atmosphere around here, especially at Coros
It says something (yet again) about the quality of journalism that when we have two contradictory stories like this, one in a bunch of newspapers and one a first person account, that we easily dismiss the press report as sensation mongering lies.
The paper said he was a world class windsurfer [ never heard of him]. You would think he would know the rules of wavesailing?
I was sailing at Sunsets on the day in question. From memory there was only 4-6 guys out at the time of the incident. 5.3 with some nice waves. I too had a problem with (who I now know to be) Jamie. I will only state the facts as I saw them and the two problems I had.
I was coming down the line on a set wave watching a sailor coming out through the unbroken break down wind of me. He had room to sail over the wave and continue out, however to my dismay he proceeded to gybe onto the wave. I remember thinking "what the f###k is he doing ?" He caused me to straighten out / stall on the wave, then pinched up wind in front of me and continue to do so in the broken water.
A short time later I was again coming down the line on a set wave which I had picked up from the peak and Jamie sailed over the back onto the wave and upwind towards me. I turned up and around him to continue down the line as he continued to pinch upwind at the bottom of the wave and into the white water.
I felt he had put me and himself in a dangerous postion by doing both of these acts and showed a disregard for the rules of wave sailing.
I wish Jamie a speedy recovery.
Deano
I can only hope this is a case of Jamie having never learnt the basic rules of wavesailing, or an accident, rather than an act of aggression. I hope he gets well soon and plays it safer next time.
I suppose it's possible to have 23 years experience but not know some basic rules - right?
Ha ha, the media:
www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=3113
Interesting (for me anyway):
When I first read this thread I thought "Wow, people windsurf Sunset Beach!". Then I thought that it was pretty normal, well kinda, to run over a drop-in tourist in Hawaii. Excuse my geography. Then when I realised it was in WA my opinion completely changed. So my sense of justice and compassion towards other human beings chages based on their location. Hmmm.
Good on Sandman for correcting all without much fanfare.
... really bad news as he is a good mate of mine. I got a cryptic text from him saying he came home in crutches... no details of the accident.
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... on a positive note... nice photo in the paper. I took that of Jamie a couple of years back down at Botany Bay in a SSW storm... I think it was about 10 degrees celcius that day and blowing 50 knts solid.
Making threats because one of your mates was dropping in is very non style. Pull your head in.
well at this stage it's pretty much a case of he said she said...
... Jamie's story according to the paper says he didn't drop in... Sandman45 who only posted a pre-paid mobile number and seems to have posted all of 2 posts on Seabreeze says there was no bad intention even so he supposedly "saw the other guy sail out towards the wave"...
Sounds like one word against another.
... hm... who would you believe? A mate you know very well or someone unknown?
Hmmmm, sounds like Jamie and his NSW mates are a bunch of slalom sailors to me (Botany Bay indeed). Best stay out of the waves boys.
You are right Stesegler. Do you believe the guy who claims to be a world class professional of 23 years experience (who I've never heard of) who goes straight to the media and puts pictures of him self "getting some air at a competition meet" and immediately puts a dollar value on the whole thing. Or do you believe the guy that has a go at defending himself because he's being slagged off by a heap of people that don't really know what happened.
Tough choice.
My Mate witnessed it. and believed jamie you were down wind cutting up wind , The wind was 15 knots kicking in cross on in the arvo,the (wind took a while to swing that day), with an incoming tide as was the new 3m swell and at an angle that made bottom turning 50 /50 early.
The incident occured on basically a knee high wave on the inside ,when the offender crancked one last bottom turn,which was a waste of effort as i was told and not warrented ,but you didnt see it coming or acknowloge his presents or rightfully believed there was nothing left in the wave or the need for this manouver ............its sounds like you have some justification to feel right ??????
quote........... IT WAS A JOKE there was an incident ?
JUST For the record no locals hit men were involved, this was an incident between to travelers high on thier own ability TOURISTS ......
But
If you drive a car and sit in the blind spot or dont have an awarness ,you will get cut off eventually ??????????
If you tailgate you know you may go up the ass end .
Jamie sorry you had a collision(for what ever reason.??????)on the water and recieved a nasty injury. Speedy recovery
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Jamie many WDSURFERS /SURFERS/KITES SURFERS HAVE CRASHED into each other before.........GET OVER IT ...........YOU really did a job on the Geraldton community with the Geraldton Paper front page and public notice section ............for that Grow up .
We wait for you to run to the cops )
and get the law involved.(YOUR NECKED)
Just for the record ..............2 broken feet........2 broken legs this summer in Geraldton. 3 LOCALS ,KYLE FROM PERTH whom i helped,plus pleanty of other twists pains, and strains injuries im shore . Get better soon doods.
Your not allown ,having your summer and income terninated.
There IS not a session of sailing where some one dosnt come off the water with a Close Incounter Of The Third kind
Kev LENARD AND FAMILY good to see you wacking sunset last night ,ABSOLUTLY EPIC 3 meter swell and cranking cross offffffffffffffffff shores
Wacked 10 pluss heaving 50m long walls after the SUN SET
One last one ........... Yes we living it in Geraldton yet You keep dreaming it
Happy drinking at your local
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I would again ask that people respect the rules of the forum especially in regard to threats and seek the facts before posting. The papers made the most of the accident that, was unintentional.
I am sorry about Jamie’s situation and injuries and wish him a speedy recovery. I would like to contact Jamie personally to express this if someone could private mail his contact details. Alternatively he can call the number I posted (which is not prepaid).
Sandman45
Guilty or not Guilty.Bring on the jury,The boyz were in a dog fight and sandy got a bit closer than he thought, jamie was on full juice and took out a fast jibe on to sandys wave ,thinking sandy would not make that section,unfortunatly sandy was even more detergermand after spotting in his sights a intruder on hs quite rightly so wave,.Out of jamiz right eye came Shock and it was all over..accidents hurt but if you come out in one piece and live to live another day then all is well,and a experiance like this matures ones self to a higher level. Passive and aggression are the key elements of our sport...so stand up force and file in..
Quote from above.
Q1 So what do you do if the person downwind doesn't make it over the wave because they are underpowered
Q2Anyway, after discovering so many other great spots on the WA coast I no longer rate Gerladton that highly anyway... hence usually like to go to places with no people around.
A1 You wave ride around them
A2 Good 
Enough said Well not really s
You remind me of DUMB AND DUMBER.......................(In house joke)
......undiscovered spots are kewl! 
