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Check my Tendon...

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Created by ikw777 > 9 months ago, 19 Jan 2014
ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
19 Jan 2014 4:31PM
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This can't be right.





NotWal
QLD, 7428 posts
19 Jan 2014 4:43PM
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You've been tricked. That's a piece of rope dipped in tar.

Mark _australia
WA, 22377 posts
19 Jan 2014 2:43PM
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Yep that has exactly 5 seasons - or 5mins - left in it

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
19 Jan 2014 9:24PM
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Call me an over-cautious scaredy-cat, but I chose to replace it...

d11wtq
VIC, 89 posts
20 Jan 2014 8:54AM
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Call me a n00b, but what is it?

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
20 Jan 2014 9:02AM
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I've got a bucket full of them and not one of them ever broke. Amazing piece of equipment considering the forces that get transferred through it.

RumChaser
TAS, 621 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:28AM
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d11wtq said..

Call me a n00b, but what is it?


It's the bit that attaches the mast foot to the mast base. Another type is called a boge joint and it looks more like an hourglass.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:40AM
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It looks like my finger after squashing it on the weekend hooking up some lifting chains - about the same colour too.

d11wtq
VIC, 89 posts
20 Jan 2014 7:47PM
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Iceman said..

d11wtq said..

Call me a n00b, but what is it?


It's the bit that attaches the mast foot to the mast base. Another type is called a boge joint and it looks more like an hourglass.


Oh, thanks. I just had a look at my mast base and see how that works now. I'd never really looked closely at it. It just seems to flex, so I guess they wear out over time? I thought they were actual mechanical gimbal joints.

ULF
QLD, 261 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:05PM
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I never would have guessed it looked like that when you described it. No wonder that uni felt dodgy.

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:19PM
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sausage said..

I've got a bucket full of them and not one of them ever broke. Amazing piece of equipment considering the forces that get transferred through it.


Haha Ive got a bucket of broken ones, I'm now trying the north clear ones to see how long they last me or
maybe i should just stop sailing so much

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:33PM
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vando said..

sausage said..

I've got a bucket full of them and not one of them ever broke. Amazing piece of equipment considering the forces that get transferred through it.


Haha Ive got a bucket of broken ones, I'm now trying the north clear ones to see how long they last me or
maybe i should just stop sailing so much



Yeah I noticed that lovely clear north tendon at xmas.
I wonder if they break because you guys have them stored in a hot car with the gear i.e. heat effected whereas mine have never broken because they are only ever under a house (concrete bunker virtually) with very little temperature differential.

John340
QLD, 3123 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:34PM
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vando said..

sausage said..

I've got a bucket full of them and not one of them ever broke. Amazing piece of equipment considering the forces that get transferred through it.


Haha Ive got a bucket of broken ones, I'm now trying the north clear ones to see how long they last me or
maybe i should just stop sailing so much


Vando,

On average, how many kilometres do you get from a Tendon?

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:53PM
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sausage said..


vando said..


sausage said..

I've got a bucket full of them and not one of them ever broke. Amazing piece of equipment considering the forces that get transferred through it.



Haha Ive got a bucket of broken ones, I'm now trying the north clear ones to see how long they last me or
maybe i should just stop sailing so much




Yeah I noticed that lovely clear north tendon at xmas.
I wonder if they break because you guys have them stored in a hot car with the gear i.e. heat effected whereas mine have never broken because they are only ever under a house (concrete bunker virtually) with very little temperature differential.


Yer could be snags but no different to most people, not everyone has a concrete bunker .

John not sure km wise i would say on av 3 months sometimes less

Gestalt
QLD, 14393 posts
20 Jan 2014 10:59PM
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could be vando gets tendonitis.

Mark _australia
WA, 22377 posts
20 Jan 2014 9:06PM
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God Vando, what are you doing to them? I get 2yrs from a tendon and replace voluntarily.
The gear stays in the car for most of summer so it sees 60deg or so for at least say 30 days a year, so dunno about Sausage's bunker theory

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
20 Jan 2014 11:15PM
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Mark _australia said..

God Vando, what are you doing to them? I get 2yrs from a tendon and replace voluntarily.
The gear stays in the car for most of summer so it sees 60deg or so for at least say 30 days a year, so dunno about Sausage's bunker theory


Dunno Mark id be happy replacing them once a year

Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
21 Jan 2014 12:17AM
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....as the actor said to the bishop........

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
20 Jan 2014 11:54PM
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vando said..

Mark _australia said..

God Vando, what are you doing to them? I get 2yrs from a tendon and replace voluntarily.
The gear stays in the car for most of summer so it sees 60deg or so for at least say 30 days a year, so dunno about Sausage's bunker theory


Dunno Mark id be happy replacing them once a year


Sail more, break more... The one in the pic was new in October, so four months.

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
21 Jan 2014 8:37AM
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Mark _australia said..

God Vando, what are you doing to them? I get 2yrs from a tendon and replace voluntarily.
The gear stays in the car for most of summer so it sees 60deg or so for at least say 30 days a year, so dunno about Sausage's bunker theory


+1

I sail 4 times a week, mine last 2 to 3 years.
Agree with Gestalt, Vando you must suffer from tendonitis !

What I've noticed is that the ones that crack are the less frequently used ones, seems that they go dry and break. Whereas the ones that are on the water all the time seems to last for ages !

mr love
VIC, 2352 posts
21 Jan 2014 9:51AM
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The Dodgy QLD water where Vando sails. Has to be. If he spent his time in the pristine surrounds of Pookipa he would not have any problem with tendonitis, the typhoid would kill that.
Back on subject I use the rubber unis as they absorb the shocks on PPB a bit better. Generally get 2 years out of them without a problem, in fact I think I have only ever broken 2 in 30 years of windsurfing.

pilchard
SA, 626 posts
21 Jan 2014 9:37AM
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Touch wood never broken one, never looked like breaking one.
Hot as all feck here in SA and on the back of the ute for weeks on end.
Lost more than worn out, I use chinook tendon that has safety rope built in for the unlikely chance it snaps

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
22 Jan 2014 11:23PM
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Out of interest are the tendons that have broken Chinook or another brand?

Here's a few from my bucket

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
22 Jan 2014 11:44PM
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I think they were Chinooks but how do ya tell.
Ive broken one first time out before, so I must be very unlucky maybe a bad batch.
anyway so far so good with the north one

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
23 Jan 2014 1:05AM
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yer swim saver ropes and webbings are too short and are distorting your feckin tendons!..where did your mother and i go wrong! ;)

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
23 Jan 2014 9:10AM
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Good point Greeny never looked at that. If the ropes too short transfers the load back onto the tendon rather than just bending.
I never touch the rope though from new but will check it out.


sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
23 Jan 2014 10:10AM
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greenleader said..

yer swim saver ropes and webbings are too short and are distorting your feckin tendons!..where did your mother and i go wrong! ;)



Posting at midnight p1ssed again Greenie . I think the distortion of the tendon is through continual load compression as there is no tension on the rope even at 90+deg.

Vando, The chinook tendons have fine concentric cirlces from the mould at one end of the tendon and perpendicular holes.

PS - my mum says hi too Greenleader.

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
23 Jan 2014 1:41PM
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sausage said..

greenleader said..

yer swim saver ropes and webbings are too short and are distorting your feckin tendons!..where did your mother and i go wrong! ;)



Posting at midnight p1ssed again Greenie . I think the distortion of the tendon is through continual load compression as there is no tension on the rope even at 90+deg.

Vando, The chinook tendons have fine concentric cirlces from the mould at one end of the tendon and perpendicular holes.

PS - my mum says hi too Greenleader.


Mine are Chinooks then

Richiefish
QLD, 5610 posts
23 Jan 2014 8:00PM
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My tendon is fine... So is my cartlilage...Got a few sore muscles after last Tuesday....

SeaSkip
VIC, 97 posts
24 Jan 2014 3:43PM
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Just replaced a couple, with Chinook. Nice tight fit in my Chinook base as expected, but quite loose in the other base (brand unknown). Are there different diameter sizes with different brands?



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