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Gybing

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Created by windykid > 9 months ago, 12 Nov 2008
sailquik
VIC, 6143 posts
14 Nov 2008 10:32PM
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windykid said...

learning to gybe can you give me any tips
thanx


Nah! According to all the professionals in the gybe videos I do most of it all wrong so don't do it like this.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
15 Nov 2008 12:12PM
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Looks very slick to me

One day I'll be able to gybe like that.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
15 Nov 2008 2:15PM
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sailquik said...

windykid said...

learning to gybe can you give me any tips
thanx


Nah! According to all the professionals in the gybe videos I do most of it all wrong so don't do it like this.



Sailquick,
lovely gybe. Out of interest is that a 122litre isonic? What size sail and wind speed also.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
15 Nov 2008 3:39PM
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So the other tip is go to Sandy Point, with SQ, and practice in the nice smooth water you see in the vid.

mkseven
QLD, 2315 posts
15 Nov 2008 6:28PM
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I've watched vando gybing around me heaps, it hasn't helped me any

When i can gybe like these guys i'll be happy (and probably nearing 90)-
www.mauiwindsurfing.net/

windykid
QLD, 368 posts
15 Nov 2008 7:29PM
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went out thisavo and almost got it

Gestalt
QLD, 14449 posts
15 Nov 2008 8:03PM
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mkseven said...

I've watched vando gybing around me heaps, it hasn't helped me any

When i can gybe like these guys i'll be happy (and probably nearing 90)-
www.mauiwindsurfing.net/


great vid MK.

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
15 Nov 2008 9:49PM
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sailquik said...

windykid said...

learning to gybe can you give me any tips
thanx


Nah! According to all the professionals in the gybe videos I do most of it all wrong so don't do it like this.




That technique from too much flat water sailing lol.

sailquik
VIC, 6143 posts
16 Nov 2008 1:51AM
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Sailquik,
lovely gybe. Out of interest is that a 122litre isonic? What size sail and wind speed also.


111 iSonic, 6.6m KA Koncept in 12-15 knots of wind. Lightwind gybe!

Vando said: That technique from too much flat water sailing lol.


Spot on Vando. And loving it!!!

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
16 Nov 2008 12:29PM
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sailquik said...



Sailquik,
lovely gybe. Out of interest is that a 122litre isonic? What size sail and wind speed also.


111 iSonic, 6.6m KA Koncept in 12-15 knots of wind. Lightwind gybe!

Vando said: That technique from too much flat water sailing lol.


Spot on Vando. And loving it!!!


Hi Sailquik, on another topic. How are you setting up your Isonic 111 with the 6.6. I just got one recently and have it dialed with the 7.8 but still not comfortable with my NP RSS 6.7m.

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
16 Nov 2008 3:38PM
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sailquik said...



Sailquik,
lovely gybe. Out of interest is that a 122litre isonic? What size sail and wind speed also.


111 iSonic, 6.6m KA Koncept in 12-15 knots of wind. Lightwind gybe!

Vando said: That technique from too much flat water sailing lol.


Spot on Vando. And loving it!!!

errrrrrrrrrr

sailquik
VIC, 6143 posts
16 Nov 2008 8:29PM
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Waiting4wind said...


Hi Sailquik, on another topic. How are you setting up your Isonic 111 with the 6.6. I just got one recently and have it dialed with the 7.8 but still not comfortable with my NP RSS 6.7m.


Mast track 3/4 back. Footstraps all the way back and outboard at the front and in the front outboard hole at the back. This was to keep the stance closer but seems to work for me perfectly with KA 37cm G10 Slalom Fin. I run the mast base about center or slightly back with the 7.5m sail.

Above is how I had it set up for SHQ Cup race weekend slalom for 15-20 knots. see below:



Toadwhispera
QLD, 223 posts
16 Nov 2008 7:51PM
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elmo

You cracked me up "Boomshaka" forever ! now thats just gotta help.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
16 Nov 2008 11:01PM
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Mast track 3/4 back. Footstraps all the way back and outboard at the front and in the front outboard hole at the back. This was to keep the stance closer but seems to work for me perfectly with KA 37cm G10 Slalom Fin. I run the mast base about center or slightly back with the 7.5m sail.

Above is how I had it set up for SHQ Cup race weekend slalom for 15-20 knots. see below:



Thanks, I use a high boom but wasn't as far back in the track, but my front foot was light. I'll go back with the mast more and try dropping the boom a little to get more front foot pressure.

Steptoes Son
QLD, 88 posts
16 Nov 2008 10:52PM
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Last time I went sailing I managed to complete one..... only one sucessful gybe.

This was about 3 weeks ago and I was pleased with myself. (sigh....finally)

Today I go for a sail and right off the bat I do two perfect gybes without hesitation. Four fast broad reaches and my hair is still dry. Then the rest of the session I'm swiming IOT turn around.
How can it be sooo right when it's right and how can it be so ugly and wrong when it's wrong.

Great afternoon at pinaroo point, not many out, but good on a 7 mtr.

To the guy who sailed back and forth with me, past me, opposite me, thanks. We didn't say a word to each other but as you left we exchanged a smile and all was understood. It was good to be out there with someone else on a sailboard.

Saw a huge turtle I mean huge, made my day.
Cheers All.

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
16 Nov 2008 10:04PM
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Steptoes Son said...


Last time I went sailing I managed to complete one..... only one sucessful gybe.

This was about 3 weeks ago and I was pleased with myself. (sigh....finally)

Today I go for a sail and right off the bat I do two perfect gybes without hesitation. Four fast broad reaches and my hair is still dry. Then the rest of the session I'm swiming IOT turn around.
How can it be sooo right when it's right and how can it be so ugly and wrong when it's wrong.

Great afternoon at pinnaroo point, not many out, but good on a 7 mtr.

To the guy who sailed back and forth with me, past me, opposite me, thanks. We didn't say a word to each other but as you left we exchanged a smile and all was understood. It was good to be out there with someone else on a sailboard.

Saw a huge turtle I mean huge, made my day.
Cheers All.


Bloody bugger it, I f I had know it was worth a blast I would come down, I didn't think it looked that flash.
And yep your two complete gybes in front of me
Mineral

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
16 Nov 2008 10:07PM
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mineral1 said...

Bloody bugger it, I f I had know it was worth a blast I would come down, I didn't think it looked that flash.



Ditto... Starting to think that I might as well have a go at my teams stomping ground...

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
16 Nov 2008 10:16PM
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nebbian said...

mineral1 said...

Bloody bugger it, I f I had know it was worth a blast I would come down, I didn't think it looked that flash.



Ditto... Starting to think that I might as well have a go at my teams stomping ground...


You'll have to give it a run, it has a tendency to be a little choppy,but gets the fitness up in a hurry Just read what Swanbourne is running, and what Ocean Ref is running, and its some place in the middle of that for wind strength. Ocean reef true, is more like Rotto as its out away from the shore line a bit.

Pointman
WA, 435 posts
17 Nov 2008 11:08AM
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Nebs, I'll back Mino on the sailing at Pinnaroo.

It's a great spot when the seabreeze is marginal (I've had some great days there in 15-18K, when the seabreeze never made it to the river).

Can, get a bit choppy, so not great for high speed, but a real nice way to cool off on a hot summer's day.

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
17 Nov 2008 3:00PM
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sailquik said...

windykid said...

learning to gybe can you give me any tips
thanx


Nah! According to all the professionals in the gybe videos I do most of it all wrong so don't do it like this.




Hey, you put your back foot in its strap first!

BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was the only one!!!

Ellobuddha
NSW, 625 posts
17 Nov 2008 4:55PM
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Wet Willy said...

sailquik said...

windykid said...

learning to gybe can you give me any tips
thanx


Nah! According to all the professionals in the gybe videos I do most of it all wrong so don't do it like this.




Hey, you put your back foot in its strap first!

BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was the only one!!!


I put my back foot in too. A mate teaching me gave me that tip and I havent had many horrible since as I am far more locked in than with the front foot first. Gybing - well thats a whole different story

Ellobuddha
NSW, 625 posts
17 Nov 2008 4:56PM
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Horrible catapults that is.

FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
17 Nov 2008 3:34PM
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Don't read too much into Gadgetman's video -the rig flip is about 6 hours too late. Throw (and I mean THROW - agressviely) the rig before you get to dead-downwind.

evlPanda
NSW, 9203 posts
17 Nov 2008 6:46PM
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Ellobuddha said...

Wet Willy said...

sailquik said...

windykid said...

learning to gybe can you give me any tips
thanx


Nah! According to all the professionals in the gybe videos I do most of it all wrong so don't do it like this.

<vid goes here>


Hey, you put your back foot in its strap first!

BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was the only one!!!


I put my back foot in too. A mate teaching me gave me that tip and I havent had many horrible since as I am far more locked in than with the front foot first. Gybing - well thats a whole different story



I noticed that in the vid too. Who else puts back foot in first? I agree, there is less chance of a catapult. Now I've finally got the back foot going in like lightning, is there any real reason to do it this way? (new thread?)

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
17 Nov 2008 5:03PM
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evlPanda said...

Ellobuddha said...

Wet Willy said...

sailquik said...

windykid said...

learning to gybe can you give me any tips
thanx


Nah! According to all the professionals in the gybe videos I do most of it all wrong so don't do it like this.

<vid goes here>


Hey, you put your back foot in its strap first!

BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was the only one!!!


I put my back foot in too. A mate teaching me gave me that tip and I havent had many horrible since as I am far more locked in than with the front foot first. Gybing - well thats a whole different story



I noticed that in the vid too. Who else puts back foot in first? I agree, there is less chance of a catapult. Now I've finally got the back foot going in like lightning, is there any real reason to do it this way? (new thread?)


One of the Guru's has a video out on this, it wasn’t Guy Cribb, but somebody with a healthy learning video on the market simular to Cribb. When I watched it, and the idea/theory was to reduce the chance of going over the handlebars by going back foot first. It gives better board control.
I have always been a front foot first hack, but trying to retrain myself to go back foot first for that very reason, control and no board crunch

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
17 Nov 2008 8:59PM
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Jeez, and here was me thinking I wuz a retard...

It's brilliant for avoiding catapaults, especially in big swell, gusty conditions etc. I hate that front-foot-first feeling of having nothing holding you from a catapault in that crucial moment before the back one goes in.

Also, if you come off the plane in a lull, it's easier to just take the front foot out and put it near the mastfoot for a few secs while you wait for a gust...

I can do it the "proper" way, but I always revert to this technique when conditions are anything less than perfect...

decrepit
WA, 12348 posts
17 Nov 2008 7:58PM
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Coming out of a strap to strap gybe I think it's natural. Old back foot is on the rail somewhere behind new front footstrap, and old front foot is still in it's strap. Bit hard to get new front foot in strap in that position. Much easier for old front foot to come out of front strap and go straight into back strap, then new front foot can go in.

sailquik
VIC, 6143 posts
17 Nov 2008 10:14PM
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mineral1 said...

evlPanda said...

Ellobuddha said...

Wet Willy said...

sailquik said...

windykid said...

learning to gybe can you give me any tips
thanx

Nah! According to all the professionals in the gybe videos I do most of it all wrong so don't do it like this.

<vid goes here>


Hey, you put your back foot in its strap first!

BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was the only one!!!


I put my back foot in too. A mate teaching me gave me that tip and I havent had many horrible since as I am far more locked in than with the front foot first. Gybing - well thats a whole different story



I noticed that in the vid too. Who else puts back foot in first? I agree, there is less chance of a catapult. Now I've finally got the back foot going in like lightning, is there any real reason to do it this way? (new thread?)


One of the Guru's has a video out on this, it wasn’t Guy Cribb, but somebody with a healthy learning video on the market simular to Cribb. When I watched it, and the idea/theory was to reduce the chance of going over the handlebars by going back foot first. It gives better board control.
I have always been a front foot first hack, but trying to retrain myself to go back foot first for that very reason, control and no board crunch



Its some thing that I did not do 4 or 5 years ago. I always went strap to strap at the front. (Unless I really stuff it up and drop off the plane I never put a foot in front of the front straps). The change was just a natural adaption to the change in boards and fins and the change in buoyancy distribution and width of the boards. I found that as I got the rig back in the hands I needed the center of effort (foot pressure) further back. As I accelerated I had to de-power/sheet out if I had the front foot in to get the balance right. This didn't happen on the old boards where the tail was narrower and acceleration slower. In fact I find that when gybing the speed boards and my wave board I often still go into the front strap first.

My observation of step gybes is that stepping forward with a wide stance is forced on the rider because the rig flip is not neutral. A lot of sailors, even very good ones let the rig drop back as they flip it. This means they need the stability of feet wide apart to wrench it up again and need to be well forward on the board to stop this heavy footwork stalling the board. When strap to strap is done well you can completely let go of the rig as you flip it and just grab it on the other side. This possible because the rig balance stays vertical (it is actually leaned into the turn to keep it neutral).

Just my 2 cents worth.

My neighbor at Sandy Point is the quickest, smoothest wave board gyber I have ever seen. I will try to get him on film soon to really blow your mind on how quick and tight a wave gybe can be. :)

sailquik
VIC, 6143 posts
17 Nov 2008 10:18PM
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decrepit said...

Coming out of a strap to strap gybe I think it's natural. Old back foot is on the rail somewhere behind new front footstrap, and old front foot is still in it's strap. Bit hard to get new front foot in strap in that position. Much easier for old front foot to come out of front strap and go straight into back strap, then new front foot can go in.


Very good observation Decrepit, and very true. Although, I was in the habit of getting my new front foot in the front strap before removing the old one, thus having both in for a brief moment. For me this is still the best way to gybe a narrow speed board.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
17 Nov 2008 10:45PM
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My neighbor at Sandy Point is the quickest, smoothest wave board gyber I have ever seen. I will try to get him on film soon to really blow your mind on how quick and tight a wave gybe can be. :)


I was watching Josh Stone doing his stuff in Maui last year. He would hit a wave at full speed, gybe, and virtually bounce back out at full speed, incredible to watch. I must say I was also impressed by his forward loops which he planed out off on landing, and he did one on every run.



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