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New Boom, any suggestions?

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Created by Bayblaster > 9 months ago, 29 Feb 2012
Bayblaster
VIC, 122 posts
29 Feb 2012 8:17PM
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Hi,
I'm on the hunt for a new boom. Currently have a Hydrodynamix "Hydro 1700" about 4 years old. Will need something around 180-200 and fairy strong as I'm approx 95kg's. A couple of years ago people were suggesting Aeron but now Hydrodynamix etc. Would the new Hydrodynamix booms be the same as my older one, same stiffness, clamp etc?
Budget- not enough for carbon and only windsurf a few times a year now so dont want to spend too much.
Thanks,




windaddict
VIC, 1121 posts
29 Feb 2012 8:45PM
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Very happy with my Chinook booms, very stiff and strong for Aluminium.

d1
WA, 304 posts
29 Feb 2012 5:54PM
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Happy with Aeron Vgrip. It is very stiff. Mast clamp is excellent - best I've had. It is heavy though. I am not convinced that the v shape really helps to reduce hand fatigue, but it certainly does not detract from the experience and appears to be stronger.

busterwa
3777 posts
29 Feb 2012 8:18PM
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What ever you do dont stear clerar of neil pride booms x****
, whatever They are a absolute hunk of under-enginnered ****.Buy one and within a week youll be swimming back to shore

Name and Shame = NeilPride Booms =hunk of **** Go Chinook* or areon. Pride have serious reliability issues with the products.

sideskirt
328 posts
1 Mar 2012 12:12AM
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I have Aeron MCT 26 and I love it. Very detailed craftmanship and I love reduced diameter grip :D

redsurfbus
304 posts
1 Mar 2012 4:00AM
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Chinook Pro1 alloy 185-247 is the stiffest non carbon boom I have ever had, it has 29grip for your hands which widens to 32 at the rear. Due to this even on 3/4 extension the flex is minimal and I used mine with full cambered sails up to 8m after bending 2 other brand booms in quick succession (more coincidence with bad catapults than faults, although I have heard one of them is quite weak, had a 26grip).

It is a bit heavier than other alloys at this size, but the strength is worth it, it will last you years. I am a team rider with chinook now but bought the boom about 15months ago, long before I joined them and it still looks new after about 1000nmi use. Chinook want me to only use carbon but if its real overpowered conditions I have a lot of confidence in this boom and will still prefer to use it due to the strength and lack of flex at longer extensions.

windaddict
VIC, 1121 posts
1 Mar 2012 9:25AM
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busterwa said...

What ever you do dont stear clerar of neil pride booms x****
, whatever They are a absolute hunk of under-enginnered ****.Buy one and within a week youll be swimming back to shore

Name and Shame = NeilPride Booms =hunk of **** Go Chinook* or areon. Pride have serious reliability issues with the products.


Not speaking from personal experience, but a few of my mates have had major problems with X3 Booms, would definately not get one of those!, one mate went through 3 of them (all warrantied), until finally he had had enough of them and swapped it for a Chinook.

Did notice today a second hand aluminium boom on Ebay located in Victoria, think it was $45 if you really really hard up on cash. Think it was quite an older one though and personally would not risk it!

swoosh
QLD, 1923 posts
1 Mar 2012 8:33AM
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windaddict said...

busterwa said...

What ever you do dont stear clerar of neil pride booms x****
, whatever They are a absolute hunk of under-enginnered ****.Buy one and within a week youll be swimming back to shore

Name and Shame = NeilPride Booms =hunk of **** Go Chinook* or areon. Pride have serious reliability issues with the products.


Not speaking from personal experience, but a few of my mates have had major problems with X3 Booms, would definately not get one of those!, one mate went through 3 of them (all warrantied), until finally he had had enough of them and swapped it for a Chinook.

Did notice today a second hand aluminium boom on Ebay located in Victoria, think it was $45 if you really really hard up on cash. Think it was quite an older one though and personally would not risk it!



I think a lot of people have had issues with the recent X3 and X6 booms breaking... that new front end they introduced 2 years ago wasn't as well thought out as they'd like everyone to believe. I think they generally snap at the hydroformed section where it enters the boom head... from the snapped ones I've seen the material there is very thin.

On the up side, I haven't heard anyone having issues with getting them replaced under warranty. I wouldn't go anywhere near one.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
1 Mar 2012 9:35AM
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windaddict said...

busterwa said...

What ever you do dont stear clerar of neil pride booms x****
, whatever They are a absolute hunk of under-enginnered ****.Buy one and within a week youll be swimming back to shore

Name and Shame = NeilPride Booms =hunk of **** Go Chinook* or areon. Pride have serious reliability issues with the products.


Not speaking from personal experience, but a few of my mates have had major problems with X3 Booms, would definately not get one of those!, one mate went through 3 of them (all warrantied), until finally he had had enough of them and swapped it for a Chinook.

Did notice today a second hand aluminium boom on Ebay located in Victoria, think it was $45 if you really really hard up on cash. Think it was quite an older one though and personally would not risk it!



Busta, you're only part right and a bit harsh as the X6 & X9 are good booms. I had an X3 and after using it only a couple of times found it too soft for my liking (we'll call it weight-related), but either way, the salesperson's excuse that it's "really meant for lightweight beginner-intermediate freeride" doesn't cut it with me. In my opinion, windsurfing gear should have a minimum strength rating (for safety reasons).

I did a "breadstick" break on an X6 and it was replaced, the 2nd one is still going strong after 4 years and it's a good/stiff boom compared to others I've tried...I've heard great reviews about the X9 also.

BenKirk
NSW, 600 posts
1 Mar 2012 9:50AM
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busterwa said...

What ever you do dont stear clerar of neil pride booms x****


Mixed message?

Paul Kelf
WA, 678 posts
1 Mar 2012 11:46AM
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Bayblaster said...

Hi,
I'm on the hunt for a new boom. Currently have a Hydrodynamix "Hydro 1700" about 4 years old. Will need something around 180-200 and fairy strong as I'm approx 95kg's. A couple of years ago people were suggesting Aeron but now Hydrodynamix etc. Would the new Hydrodynamix booms be the same as my older one, same stiffness, clamp etc?
Budget- not enough for carbon and only windsurf a few times a year now so dont want to spend too much.
Thanks,




What's wrong with your current Hydro 170?
It should adjust out to 220 & being 32mm would be stronger than most new booms.
At your weight I would not go with any reduced diameter alloy boom, carbon only
By the way it is at least 10 years old going by that description



K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
1 Mar 2012 3:02PM
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Pretty happy with Loft booms. I'm not a real equipment snob (well I wouldn't know what is awesome or not anyways), but they seem to do the job well and hold up to a good beating.

Anyone know what Prolimit booms are like?

How much does a Chinook boom cost generally?

CJW
NSW, 1717 posts
1 Mar 2012 5:58PM
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Sailhack said...

windaddict said...

busterwa said...

What ever you do dont stear clerar of neil pride booms x****
, whatever They are a absolute hunk of under-enginnered ****.Buy one and within a week youll be swimming back to shore

Name and Shame = NeilPride Booms =hunk of **** Go Chinook* or areon. Pride have serious reliability issues with the products.


Not speaking from personal experience, but a few of my mates have had major problems with X3 Booms, would definately not get one of those!, one mate went through 3 of them (all warrantied), until finally he had had enough of them and swapped it for a Chinook.

Did notice today a second hand aluminium boom on Ebay located in Victoria, think it was $45 if you really really hard up on cash. Think it was quite an older one though and personally would not risk it!



Busta, you're only part right and a bit harsh as the X6 & X9 are good booms. I had an X3 and after using it only a couple of times found it too soft for my liking (we'll call it weight-related), but either way, the salesperson's excuse that it's "really meant for lightweight beginner-intermediate freeride" doesn't cut it with me. In my opinion, windsurfing gear should have a minimum strength rating (for safety reasons).

I did a "breadstick" break on an X6 and it was replaced, the 2nd one is still going strong after 4 years and it's a good/stiff boom compared to others I've tried...I've heard great reviews about the X9 also.


Negative, both the X3 and X6 suffered the same issue as they have the same hydro-formed front end which is an extremely poorly engineered cluster*%$. We are talking about the model that was released in 2010/11 with the new 'flash' front end. Looking at this years booms they have made some revisions to remove the stress raisers that were present in the old design and it looks like the material thickness has also been beefed up (although hard to tell definitively). Of the 2011 revision front end booms I broke one after not much use and I've seen at least 4 others broken, it was 100% a design ****ter.

Previous to that there was the cracked mast clamp issue on the booms (08/09?)when they switched to the clear plastic clamp piece. Once again, happened to me but luckily the part from the older model fitted and I had a spare lying around, also saw heaps of others crack.

As swoosh said though to NP's credit they are very good with their warranty's, had no issue getting any RMA'd. All in all i've broken 4 NP booms, one I don't think any boom would have survived but the others were all due to poor design or manufacturing issues; 1 X3 and 3 X6's, I'm not sure why I kept buying them hahaha...they were nice booms to sail with but imo their QC department is up the ****.

boardboy
QLD, 554 posts
1 Mar 2012 5:28PM
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i have an x9 and it is great.
best boom ive had though this is my first carbon boom.

Bayblaster
VIC, 122 posts
2 Mar 2012 12:50PM
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What's wrong with your current Hydro 170?
It should adjust out to 220 & being 32mm would be stronger than most new booms.
At your weight I would not go with any reduced diameter alloy boom, carbon only
By the way it is at least 10 years old going by that description


The boom was good, never broke or bent on me.
Dont know how old it is for sure but if it's that old then it must have been sitting out the back of the shop awhile. Actually havent windsurfed in ages so who knows?Theres some corrosion on the tailpiece and the V Cleat in the clamp has corroded so wont grip the rope. I will hose down my next boom.
It was hard to get a real stiff lock/connection to the mast at the clamp though, seemed to be abit of movement (twist?) when using it.
What diamater alloy should I be looking for if not reduced?


Paul Kelf
WA, 678 posts
2 Mar 2012 11:24AM
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Bayblaster said...


What's wrong with your current Hydro 170?
It should adjust out to 220 & being 32mm would be stronger than most new booms.
At your weight I would not go with any reduced diameter alloy boom, carbon only
By the way it is at least 10 years old going by that description


The boom was good, never broke or bent on me.
Dont know how old it is for sure but if it's that old then it must have been sitting out the back of the shop awhile. Actually havent windsurfed in ages so who knows?Theres some corrosion on the tailpiece and the V Cleat in the clamp has corroded so wont grip the rope. I will hose down my next boom.
It was hard to get a real stiff lock/connection to the mast at the clamp though, seemed to be abit of movement (twist?) when using it.
What diamater alloy should I be looking for if not reduced?



I am not 100% sure which model you have, we had a lot of models back then.
It may be an Enduro which could explain some movement at the mast connection but would also mean that the clew cleat can be changed out for a few dollars.
You could also replace the front fitting with a better one also, stiffer material.
It might also be as simple as an adjustment problem.
Send me some photos & I may be able to save you some money.
This is the benefit of buying Australian made, spare parts & service

At 95kg I would not be buying any brand of reduced diameter alloy boom regardless of how good well they are marketed

busterwa
3777 posts
2 Mar 2012 11:57AM
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Used about 8 times broke on a 5.9 (second one) Dont go out to far with them !!!!



Just pay a little extra it saves a big swim and a the headache. So what are the best booms for your buck? (0-1000$?)

Zachery
597 posts
2 Mar 2012 12:38PM
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Bought a carbon surf and sail wave boom two years ago from Gero and still goin strong, noticed they had a new one advertised a while ago for $600 new

Squid Lips
WA, 708 posts
2 Mar 2012 4:01PM
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K Dog said...

Anyone know what Prolimit booms are like?


Not the worst boom I've had but noticeably bendier than Aeron. They are cheaper so probably use lower grade tubing.



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