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New Speed Record

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Created by shi thouse > 9 months ago, 10 Mar 2008
shi thouse
WA, 1141 posts
10 Mar 2008 1:21PM
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Have been checking out pics of Antoine Albeau and his new speed record, but I am perplexed by the photos of always see of these guys...what is that on their backs. Is it a massive life-vest (and surely there must be smaller more aerodynamic versions) or does part of that speed record include having to take your own provisions for two days?

NotWal
QLD, 7428 posts
10 Mar 2008 2:30PM
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Weight jacket

P.C_simpson
NSW, 1489 posts
10 Mar 2008 3:37PM
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weight jacket, you would have to be completely insane to wear a life jacket doing those speeds.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
10 Mar 2008 3:40PM
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P.C_simpson said...

weight jacket, you would have to be completely insane to wear a life jacket doing those speeds.


Wouldn't the weight vest include some sort of life jacket? Otherwise you would sink like a stone if you fell into the water.


shi thouse
WA, 1141 posts
10 Mar 2008 1:43PM
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Guys like Finian look like they are carrying a bit of weight on them naturally. Would be interesting to see how they go about determining weight carrying loads vs. wind strength. Water starting carrying all that gear and on a board the width of a postage stamp would be interesting.

shi thouse
WA, 1141 posts
10 Mar 2008 1:45PM
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Maybe one of those parachutes like the drag cars have to slow them down.

X-man
WA, 325 posts
10 Mar 2008 1:50PM
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Its not a very deep canal, so waterstarting is not an option. It'd be interesting to see how they start (run a coupla steps and jump on the board, or normal beach start). Does the average time include the start at rest position? That'd mean they have to do huge peaks of speed to get a good average!!

P.C_simpson
NSW, 1489 posts
10 Mar 2008 3:54PM
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na it was big back in the 90's racers used them so they could hold down bigger sails, some have a little floatation to float the jacket, these jackets used lead shot, like stuff in shot gun shells, other ones used water as weight and didn't need floatation. not sure about the modern ones, the problem with wearing a life jacket is that it stops when it hits the water and you don't, ouch...

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
10 Mar 2008 5:16PM
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X-man said...

Its not a very deep canal, so waterstarting is not an option. It'd be interesting to see how they start (run a coupla steps and jump on the board, or normal beach start). Does the average time include the start at rest position? That'd mean they have to do huge peaks of speed to get a good average!!


The canal is actually plenty deep enough to waterstart in.
If you can't waterstart in 2 feet of water then you aren't doing it correctly.
The timing gates don't start until they are well and truly on the course giving the sailors plenty of time to get up to speed.

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
10 Mar 2008 6:08PM
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This is how you start on the canal with a 20kg weight vest plus your 95-115kg on a 37cm wide board.



peter1meter
WA, 7 posts
10 Mar 2008 10:50PM
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They can carry as much weight as they want too, must just be able to stay afloat with it for min 5 minutes...

windjunky
VIC, 398 posts
11 Mar 2008 5:09PM
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Chris Lockwood isnt exactly a big bloke... and i dont notice him wearing much if any weight... so why does he go so damn fast???

sailquik
VIC, 6094 posts
11 Mar 2008 5:49PM
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windjunky said...

Chris Lockwood isnt exactly a big bloke... and i dont notice him wearing much if any weight... so why does he go so damn fast???


Skill, smarts and dedication.

Actually, I have an almost empty 10kg lead shot bottle in the shed that attests to the fact Chris sometimes does wear 'a bit' of weight.........

X-man
WA, 325 posts
11 Mar 2008 3:54PM
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wicked video!! The best for the end is awesome, answers my question beautifully!

555
892 posts
11 Mar 2008 4:18PM
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windjunky said...

Chris Lockwood isnt exactly a big bloke... and i dont notice him wearing much if any weight... so why does he go so damn fast???


Because he rides CarbonArt..

snides8
WA, 1730 posts
11 Mar 2008 10:27PM
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windjunky said...

Chris Lockwood isnt exactly a big bloke... and i dont notice him wearing much if any weight... so why does he go so damn fast???


thats a good question and its got a few sailors around the globe asking the same thing as well
i personally think he has got some dodgy gps's
still i cant explain how he disappeared in to the distance the other day sailing a 7.5 on a 130ltr board with a 40 fin through knee high chop pulling 35's
and i think if he was wearing his standard sandy 9kgs at the time he would of prob been pulling 37's or more...
actually i do know the secret...he sails through and over chop better than pretty much anyone else!

elmo
WA, 8732 posts
11 Mar 2008 11:38PM
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windjunky said...

Chris Lockwood isnt exactly a big bloke... and i dont notice him wearing much if any weight... so why does he go so damn fast???


HHHHUUUUUUGGGGGEEEEE amount of Talent, a lot of dedication to constantly work on for improving

and Tungsten Carbide 'nads

ka43
NSW, 3075 posts
12 Mar 2008 10:50AM
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I was told that AA was weighing around the 120 kg mark with weight and they were having to water start very, very broad on tiny boards. very talented Id say.
I also reckon if Chris was there, him and the big bloke wouldve been battling it out!!

monster
TAS, 495 posts
14 Mar 2008 1:48AM
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thanks yoyo thats one of the best winsurfing vid ive ever seen and real music

jp747
1553 posts
13 Mar 2008 11:54PM
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wondering if their feet are in the footstraps while popping out to plane and how would a talented 80kl. rider fare with the heavier and much taller guys

Bails
WA, 158 posts
14 Mar 2008 1:19PM
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I'm intrigued by the boom height/harness line length. They are standing quite upright on the board, is this to counteract spinout? Generally having your body extended almost parallel to the water is faster, but this does not always apply if you're massively overpowered and need to keep weight on the fin

sailquik
VIC, 6094 posts
14 Mar 2008 9:50PM
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Bails said...

I'm intrigued by the boom height/harness line length. They are standing quite upright on the board, is this to counteract spinout? Generally having your body extended almost parallel to the water is faster, but this does not always apply if you're massively overpowered and need to keep weight on the fin


It depends a lot on the angle to the wind and if your fin can take all the load efficiently.
Remember that these guys are sailing very broad and are looking for efficiency as they already have a surplus of power.



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